- uploaded: Aug 30, 2011
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More on the situation in Libya:
Yvonne Di Vito: We went to Libya on the 28th July and we came back on the 7th August and we found a totally different situation because NATO was bombarding civilians.
The bombings were not only carried out on military targets, but they also hit houses, hospitals, schools, television centers, and this was totally against the humanitarian reasons they said they were there for.
I believe they were doing this to bring panic in the city. That's why they were bombing the things that people use daily, like places with food and essential utilities like hospitals.
Libya is considered to be the Switzerland of the African continent and is very rich and schools are free for the people. Hospitals are free for the people. And the conditions for women are much better than in other Arab countries.
RT:You've met Gaddafi personally on a number of occasions. What do you think post war and post Gaddafi Libya is going to look like?
YDV: Even if all the television stations are showing people fighting and demonstrating against Gaddafi, I personally saw many people demonstrating for Gaddafi. I don't know why so many journalists are not showing this, because they are manipulating the situation. Independent media show these videos on the internet because there is more freedom. From what we saw personally from when we were in Libya and from the documents we got we saw the rebels as disorganized groups.
RT:NATO as a humanitarian mission -- does this stand up to scrutiny now?
YDV: I believe it's not a valid justification because most of the targets were civilian and many people say the people were targets on purpose to create panic on the ground.
RT:How much of a discrepancy did you see on the ground between what NATO was saying and what was happening?
YDV: We saw many discrepancies every day. The first day that NATO bombed a civilian target, I apologized to people saying that it was a mistake.
But the day after, they kept bombing the civilian targets and when the Libyan government was asking why they are bombing civilians, NATO were denying it saying it was Gaddafi propaganda. That wasn't true. We saw it.
RT: This has been described by you as a war of disinformation. How much of that did you see on the ground?
YDV: We can see still how much the media are manipulating this situation -- they say that Gaddafi's sons have been arrested, whilst this turns out to be untrue. They report that all of Tripoli has been taken over by the rebels and this also proves untrue.
A friend of ours who is a businesswoman who lives in Tripoli and also created a commission to make an investigation into the facts of what happened in Libya, told me she found some journalists who were making false reports, saying that the rebels were behind them when in fact the city behind them was empty. We saw pictures of Green Square that is completely full of rebels. But if you compare those pictures to other pictures of Green Square it's completely different, it seems like a set was created on purpose to make the public think that all of Tripoli was taken by the rebels, and all the Gaddafi family was dead.
We think this is a NATO tactic because they want people to think that rebels have taken power and I believe they are doing this because NATO is in a hurry to show this before the 30th August, because they do not want to have to provide further financing for the war.
RT: You were talking about the tribes in Libya. Do you think that Western countries understand exactly what it is going to take to unite and bring democracy to Libya?
YDV: Before it was difficult to maintain the government in Libya because it is made of many tribes, it's a tribal democracy, a society made of tribes that have conflicts with each other.
So it was difficult before and I imagine now it'll be even more so.
This is the first time that a country was attacked even though they asked for a commission to go into the country and to investigate and find facts. That didn't happen. They just attacked. This was started with false pictures sent by Al Jazeera though the media. Other media took these pictures and confirmed them as true and the war was on.
The most important thing is that the government said it was open to negotiations, but NATO didn't want that.