13 Masonic Secrets

Thu May 19, 2011 2:05 am » by **Fracturedpsyche**

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Thu May 19, 2011 3:50 am » by **Kinninigan**

yes seen this before, and the same filmmakers show in the part 13 the gate of "moloch" in cairo egypt. since the civil unrest i wonder whos guarding the gate now?

Thu May 19, 2011 4:39 am » by **Fracturedpsyche**

kinninigan wrote:yes seen this before, and the same filmmakers show in the part 13 the gate of "moloch" in cairo egypt. since the civil unrest i wonder whos guarding the gate now?

The gate now is open for you to be sent
To the place where the earth meets the sky
You'll become the sacred rider :mrcool:

But than again I am under the influence of some very potent tobacco

Thanks 4 dropping in kinninigan....Cheers :cheers:

Thu May 19, 2011 7:05 am » by **Sentientseed**

I've watched the first two of the series and would like someone to please enlighten me on what were the first two secrets.

I see Brother Manly P. Hall emphasized in the first clip. Yep he was a mason. So? Definitely worth reading if one wants to read a bit of esoterica. I have many of his books. Some first edition copies and a couple are signed copies. Then I see a bunch of added in images of a baphomet and some demons. Now it seems that by doing so the creator of the video is trying to (through symbols no less) get the viewer to connect Manly P. Hall and masonry with something bad but gives no info as to why nor no facts to base such on.

Then they show tarot cards, talk about Isis, and the statue of liberty. They do this by taking various clips form various videos and hodgepodging them together. They show 7 stars without one mention of calling them the pliadies.

Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?" Job 38:31

Boaz and Jachin were the columns of Kings Solomon's Temple--built for and as the biblical god commanded. Should we try to also show that the Bible itself is steeped in astrology (it is) and paint scary looking pics of the biblical god? Wonder if the biblical god uses tarot to decide the fate of humankind.

Why carry on about the Liberty torch and not about the 7 (visible) rays of her crown?

So far it seems the creator of the video is just throwing shit against the wall laced with his own personal subliminal message and hoping his message sticks in the viewers mind. It is very weak attempt so far. You gotta be kidding me...ghostbusters looking through the "veil" of Isis? Liberty is unveiled is she not? There is no facial covering on Lady Liberty. One can get more clever symbolic connections outa Chaka Khan's video..I'm Every Woman when compared to mythological females...at least Chaka (or 5 of her) is/are dancing in front of a 5 pointed star.

Maybe the creator of the video will improve as it goes but so far he is failing miserably in my eyes...

Thu May 19, 2011 7:29 am » by **Fracturedpsyche**

sentientseed wrote:I've watched the first two of the series and would like someone to please enlighten me on what were the first two secrets.

I see Brother Manly P. Hall emphasized in the first clip. Yep he was a mason. So? Definitely worth reading if one wants to read a bit of esoterica. I have many of his books. Some first edition copies and a couple are signed copies. Then I see a bunch of added in images of a baphomet and some demons. Now it seems that by doing so the creator of the video is trying to (through symbols no less) get the viewer to connect Manly P. Hall and masonry with something bad but gives no info as to why nor no facts to base such on.

Then they show tarot cards, talk about Isis, and the statue of liberty. They do this by taking various clips form various videos and hodgepodging them together. They show 7 stars without one mention of calling them the pliadies.

Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?" Job 38:31

Boaz and Jachin were the columns of Kings Solomon's Temple--built for and as the biblical god commanded. Should we try to also show that the Bible itself is steeped in astrology (it is) and paint scary looking pics of the biblical god? Wonder if the biblical god uses tarot to decide the fate of humankind.

Why carry on about the Liberty torch and not about the 7 (visible) rays of her crown?

So far it seems the creator of the video is just throwing shit against the wall laced with his own personal subliminal message and hoping his message sticks in the viewers mind. It is very weak attempt so far. You gotta be kidding me...ghostbusters looking through the "veil" of Isis? Liberty is unveiled is she not? There is no facial covering on Lady Liberty. One can get more clever symbolic connections outa Chaka Khan's video..I'm Every Woman when compared to mythological females...at least Chaka (or 5 of her) is/are dancing in front of a 5 pointed star.

Maybe the creator of the video will improve as it goes but so far he is failing miserably in my eyes...

Now that's what I call forming an opinion and having at it.....I could almost wager that you enjoy critiquing movies also?....lol All kidding aside....I just simply take it all in and move on...

Thanks for dropping in and sharing your views :cheers:

Thu May 19, 2011 9:47 pm » by **Kinninigan**

Hey sentientseed maybe this will help, I spent my entire life cracking secrets of the occult, and what Manly Palmer Hall is explaining is a metaphorical story how civilization is run today.

A few notes about the lecture he gives on "being a citizen in Egypt"

- Children were not born into citizenship, and those kids also wore a "lock" of hair over there left eye until they gained it. Our entire society is ruled by keys, locks, passwords, alarms, to keep fear levels and control amoung people.

- They had to learn "600" laws given by the gods, and if anyone really reads the bible Moses was given 600 laws by god. What laws do is now enforces "rule of the land", but not by people, but the gods.

- It was until about 16 years old, or the same as the average kid graduates highschool, that the ritual was performed in front of the gods to become citizens. Just like our education systems these kids learned what there leaders wanted them to learn.

..and some other points come accross too, so if your gonna watch things about the occult sentientseed I suggest you view the material from a fews angles, they speak in "symbols", not really in words so much.

Fri May 20, 2011 7:11 pm » by **Sentientseed**

..and some other points come accross too, so if your gonna watch things about the occult sentientseed I suggest you view the material from a fews angles, they speak in "symbols", not really in words so much.

lmao,

seriously? I find this so humorous that it is hard for me to even comment on it. I may not know everything on occult matters...but I feel comfortable in my knowledge of such.

The headline read 13 masonic secrets. I am a mason and in the first 2 videos there were no revealed masonic secrets whatsoever. The only point the creator of the video seems to try to portray is that somehow or another esoterica and masonry are bad by mixing in symbols of the baphomet and demons. I still haven't watched the rest to know whether or not these supposed 13 secrets were touched upon. For one...there are NO masonic secrets per say. Most masonic material is either of a historical nature concerning the fraternity...some speculative...some not...or esoteric, gnostic, mystic, mythologic or whatever other term one wants to use in similarity.

I would venture to guess wildly...that most without any esoteric background or study...have no clue what the baphomet even represents symbolically. It seems the creator of the video either believes this or actually believes it some sorta or demonic godhead and tosses it in with Hall's talk to try to make a very loose connection.

To imply that I do not look at material from many angles nor that I do not notice nor know symbolism is to me very obvious that you don't know me or my posts very well. But I also could very well be blinded by what appears to be a mere smear campaign toward masonry and due to such...am missing something.

Instead of giving me interpretations of Hall's speech/talk...please elaborate on what secrets of masonry I am missing in the first two videos. Just because Hall became a mason...doesn't mean hall speaks for masonry as a whole just as Pike does not either. Yet just because Hall is well read in esoterica and is a mason...doesn't make Hall nor Masonry nefarious. It also does not mean that because Hall is very esoteric...that the whole of Masonry is. Just because Jesus has been called a carpenter...doesn't make all carpenters Christian.

Although I find very good info in both their writings...I find Pike a bit more of an arrogant narcissistic ass who likes to use big words, which most have never even heard of much less use, to bring attention that he is intelligent and authoritative. I also find him a bit racist. The info he provides is interesting enough without having to complicate it further. He is supposed to be teaching to those who are supposedly less knowledgeable on the subject and therefore should make it easier to understand for his reader....not complicate it.

Granted, I should have watched the rest of the series before I commented at all because after watching to first two...I expect more of the same in the rest. At some point I expect Jahbulon to come into play and how this is the god of masonry. lol That this occurs in the series...may or may not be the case. Therefore, I should have reserved comment.

There are others here far more steeped in esoterica than myself. Some of the stuff I have read from others on here concerning alchemy and the like....can get very very complex and quite deep. I am astounded by the knowledge on these forums at times but am equally astounded at the lack thereof by those who attempt to make videos seemingly implying some nefarious notion concerning occult/esoteric thought. There may very well be nefarious individuals with masonry...just as there is in Christianity or the world in general. But, masonry in and of itself isn't necessarily nefarious. It is only so to those who look at it from a preconceived point of view with the intent that it is nefarious. Everyone needs a scapegoat I guess or some swine to cast their demons into. Again though, I didn't view the entire series so in that instance...I am making assumptions.

You may very well be one who is far more steeped and knowledgeable than myself. But, If I thought you knew me very well...I'd find your quoted comment to me insulting instead of humorous. I do ask of you to please connect the dots for this dumbfounded dipshit hillbilly just in the first two hodgepodge videos and its applicability to non existent masonic secrets.
As a 32 degree mason...I have no access to info that any layman cannot get themselves.

Still, it requires, as you say yourself, looking at it from many angles to gain personal incite. If I possessed the keys to the universe in an alien language...what good would it serve me if I could not understand the language even if I was able to read it? Nor would it serve me any good if I perceived aliens negatively and therefor disregarded the info also as such.

As far as the High Priestess tarot card goes...I am very well aware of what it means...(for me). I have 2 tarot tattoos and each one says something about me that i perceive in myself. One is the Hermit, One is the Hanged Man, and there is a third to be completed at a later date. That one will be the High Priestess. Yet as far as Boaz and Jachin go in Masonry...the generality of it is that they were the two columns at King Solomons temple. My point was...if one can extrapolate a negative connotation in them when it concerns the High Priestess why not carry that extrapolation on into the Bible and make similar claims concerning such things within the Bible itself. The Bible is rife with esoteric thought, magic, astrology, and the occult. Yet in such...magic becomes miracles and the perceptions of the rest are viewed differently by the followers of such yet are condemned as evil by the same when it involves someone other than their prophets, leaders, teachers, or god. Moses can create a graven images and it be ok...yet he delivers a commandment against such. The staff can become a snake and be of god. No magic here...just the will of god. Yet the egyptians doing such are evil magic. Moses snake devours the egyptian priests' snakes and is not magic. Not even considered that Moses could just very well have been a better magician. It is of god.

Why insinuate Masonry in a bad light. Why not blame the source of all? If all is the will of the god of the old testament... would not evil fall into the "all". Even the god of the old testament acknowledges such...

Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

So why question it? ;)

Isaiah 45:9

Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?

Isaiah 45:3

3And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.

;)