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no blast crater under the land when its on the moon this is not possible with 5 tonnes of force pushing down (how do you explain that), no dust on the foot pads or lander ????

this is the one that did it for me

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it was throttled down to below 3,000 lbs as it neared the lunar surface. While still several feet above the ground, the descent engine was shut down as probes, extending 5 feet below the footpads, sensed contact with the surface. The LM descended at an angle, moving laterally across the ground. When the astronauts identified a suitable landing site, the LM leveled off and dropped to the surface. The LM did not hover over its final landing site for any significant length of time. The Moon's surface is covered by a rocky material called lunar regolith, which consists of fine dust particles, glass spheres and a jumble of large boulders and rocky debris. Lunar regolith has many unique properties, the most obvious being that the particles are very jagged, which causes them to interlock. When subjected to pressure, the regolith will resist, almost like solid rock. In a vacuum exhaust gases expand rapidly once exiting the engine nozzle.

The Moon is not Earth. If wind picks up dust on Earth we get billowing clouds that tend to settle all over everything. This occurs because Earth has an atmosphere. The Moon has no atmosphere so any dust that was blown by engine exhaust would follow a simple ballistic trajectory and fall immediately back to the surface. The dust would be blown outward away from the LM, thus the lack of dust on the footpads is exactly what we would expect to see.

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1. if it blew outwards, then the module has 3 legs which would mean all of them would be covered in horizontal outward blown dust.

2. the moon has water, it has to have some type of atmosphere. maybe not discovered yet, but it will be..

3. the gritty but also the fine sticky dust particles (that were blown outward) would be stuck and very visible on a module landing leg, especially on a shiny metallic gold leg that would show dirty sticky grey dust like a black and blue thumb that just got hammered.

4. there are absolutely no weight impressions on the left side of the module where the legs would have dug into the ground, the soil was said to have been extremely soft near the landing site, but yet there is no weight impressions on the soil where it settled in and sat if they were moving laterally where are the scrape marks from being dragged on the ground?..

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Mythbusters showed, (even though must of there episode was crap) you still have wave movement after initial impressions or movement, so after 3,000 pounds of pressure there still would have been soft sticky soil being kicked up for a second or 2 after the initial movement and sticking to the module legs ( which astronauts complained of the sticky dust n there suits). which would have caused dust on the legs of the module. and due to the less extent of gravity and the supposed (LCROSS pre moon impact data) you can use a less explosion then that here on earth to kick up debris far higher and far spread out ... so that means the landing itself, and the 3,000 pounds of force coming out would have given rise to floating dust as gravity is far less...

we are supposed to believe that humans can jump higher on the moon, but just collapses instantly when propelled in the air?

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no blast crater under the land when its on the moon this is not possible with 5 tonnes of force pushing down (how do you explain that), no dust on the foot pads or lander ????

this is the one that did it for me

Simple

it was throttled down to below 3,000 lbs as it neared the lunar surface. While still several feet above the ground, the descent engine was shut down as probes, extending 5 feet below the footpads, sensed contact with the surface. The LM descended at an angle, moving laterally across the ground. When the astronauts identified a suitable landing site, the LM leveled off and dropped to the surface. The LM did not hover over its final landing site for any significant length of time. The Moon's surface is covered by a rocky material called lunar regolith, which consists of fine dust particles, glass spheres and a jumble of large boulders and rocky debris. Lunar regolith has many unique properties, the most obvious being that the particles are very jagged, which causes them to interlock. When subjected to pressure, the regolith will resist, almost like solid rock. In a vacuum exhaust gases expand rapidly once exiting the engine nozzle.

The Moon is not Earth. If wind picks up dust on Earth we get billowing clouds that tend to settle all over everything. This occurs because Earth has an atmosphere. The Moon has no atmosphere so any dust that was blown by engine exhaust would follow a simple ballistic trajectory and fall immediately back to the surface. The dust would be blown outward away from the LM, thus the lack of dust on the footpads is exactly what we would expect to see.

Hope that helps!

1. if it blew outwards, then the module has 3 legs which would mean all of them would be covered in horizontal outward blown dust.

lunar dust will drop straight down if it is released – be it from an astronaut that picks it up or from the force of a rocket engine’s exhaust (which, while not strong enough to create a crater was strong enough to suspend lunar dust). Second, the Apollo engines were shut off before the craft landed.

Consequently, as soon as the engines shut off, the source of a temporary atmosphere that surrounded the craft was terminated, and the dust that was suspended in it immediately dropped towards the lunar surface. The craft still had both a horizontal component to its trajectory, and the legs were above the majority of any of the temporary atmosphere that suspended the dust.

Hence, when the craft landed, it landed both to the side of the settled dust, and the dust would have already settled before the craft touched down, preventing any from being deposited on the LM’s footpads.

2. the moon has water, it has to have some type of atmosphere. maybe not discovered yet, but it will be..

The moon has no substantial atmosphere, but it has small amounts of certain gases that are present above the lunar surface. People sometimes refer to those gases as the lunar atmosphere. This "atmosphere" can also be called an exosphere, defined as a tenuous (low-density) zone of particles surrounding an airless body. Mercury and some asteroids also have an exosphere. ,And any water on the moon is frozen ..

3. the gritty but also the fine sticky dust particles (that were blown outward) would be stuck and very visible on a module landing leg, especially on a shiny metallic gold leg that would show dirty sticky grey dust like a black and blue thumb that just got hammered.

See above....The craft still had both a horizontal component to its trajectory, and the legs were above the majority of any of the temporary atmosphere that suspended the dust...Thus no dust or derbies on the landing legs

4. there are absolutely no weight impressions on the left side of the module where the legs would have dug into the ground, the soil was said to have been extremely soft near the landing site, but yet there is no weight impressions on the soil where it settled in and sat if they were moving laterally where are the scrape marks from being dragged on the ground?..

They were not dragging the Module across the lunar surface ,That would be a very daft thing to do,LOL
When i said ... "The LM descended at an angle, moving laterally across the ground." i meant " The LM descended at an angle, moving laterally above the ground."
sorry about that .

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Mythbusters showed, (even though must of there episode was crap) you still have wave movement after initial impressions or movement, so after 3,000 pounds of pressure there still would have been soft sticky soil being kicked up for a second or 2 after the initial movement and sticking to the module legs ( which astronauts complained of the sticky dust n there suits). which would have caused dust on the legs of the module. and due to the less extent of gravity and the supposed (LCROSS pre moon impact data) you can use a less explosion then that here on earth to kick up debris far higher and far spread out ... so that means the landing itself, and the 3,000 pounds of force coming out would have given rise to floating dust as gravity is far less...

we are supposed to believe that humans can jump higher on the moon, but just collapses instantly when propelled in the air?