2012 Apocalypse -- Postponed

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PostFri Oct 22, 2010 9:43 pm » by Septeloid

The end of the world is coming! Or here, maybe. Or did it already happen?

It's a good news/bad news situation for believers in the 2012 Mayan apocalypse. The good news is that the Mayan calendar may not end on Dec. 21, 2012 (and, by extension, the world may not end along with it). The bad news for prophecy believers? If the calendar doesn't end in December 2012, no one knows when it actually will -- or if it has already.

A new critique, published as a chapter in the new textbook "Calendars and Years II: Astronomy and Time in the Ancient and Medieval World" (Oxbow Books, 2010), argues that the accepted conversions of dates from Mayan to the modern calendar may be off by as much as 50 or 100 years. That would throw the supposed and overhyped 2012 apocalypse off by decades and cast into doubt the dates of historical Mayan events. (The doomsday worries are based on the fact that the Mayan calendar ends in 2012, much as our year ends on Dec. 31.)
The Mayan calendar was converted to today's Gregorian calendar using a calculation called the GMT constant, named for the last initials of three early Mayanist researchers. Much of the work emphasized dates recovered from colonial documents that were written in the Mayan language in the Latin alphabet, according to the chapter's author, Gerardo Aldana, University of California, Santa Barbara professor of Chicana and Chicano Studies.

Later, the GMT constant was bolstered by American linguist and anthropologist Floyd Lounsbury, who used data in the Dresden Codex Venus Table, a Mayan calendar and almanac that charts dates relative to the movements of Venus.

"He took the position that his work removed the last obstacle to fully accepting the GMT constant," Aldana said in a statement. "Others took his work even further, suggesting that he had proven the GMT constant to be correct."

But according to Aldana, Lounsbury's evidence is far from irrefutable.

"If the Venus Table cannot be used to prove the FMT as Lounsbury suggests, its acceptance depends on the reliability of the corroborating data," he said. That historical data, he said, is less reliable than the Table itself, causing the argument for the GMT constant to fall "like a stack of cards."

Aldana doesn't have any answers as to what the correct calendar conversion might be, preferring to focus on why the current interpretation may be wrong. Looks like end-of-the-world theorists may need to find another ancient calendar on which to pin their apocalyptic hopes.

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PostFri Oct 22, 2010 9:53 pm » by Ironshroom

so you're saying i should pay back that loan!?
uh oh.

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PostFri Oct 22, 2010 10:26 pm » by Anuki

The end of the world is coming!
Ah well, i'm gonna die anyway, somehow, somewhere :mrgreen:

Revelation 11:19 - "And the temple of God which is in heaven was opened; and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple, and there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder and an earthquake and a great hailstorm."


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That's great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes, an aeroplane -
Lenny Bruce is not afraid. Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn -
world serves its own needs, regardless of your own needs. Feed it up a knock,
speed, grunt no, strength no. Ladder structure clatter with fear of height,
down height. Wire in a fire, represent the seven games in a government for
hire and a combat site. Left her, wasn't coming in a hurry with the furies
breathing down your neck. Team by team reporters baffled, trump, tethered
crop. Look at that low plane! Fine then. Uh oh, overflow, population,
common group, but it'll do. Save yourself, serve yourself. World serves its
own needs, listen to your heart bleed. Tell me with the rapture and the
reverent in the right - right. You vitriolic, patriotic, slam, fight, bright
light, feeling pretty psyched.

It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.

Six o'clock - TV hour. Don't get caught in foreign tower. Slash and burn,
return, listen to yourself churn. Lock him in uniform and book burning,
blood letting. Every motive escalate. Automotive incinerate. Light a candle,
light a motive. Step down, step down. Watch a heel crush, crush. Uh oh,
this means no fear - cavalier. Renegade and steer clear! A tournament,
a tournament, a tournament of lies. Offer me solutions, offer me alternatives
and I decline.

It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.

The other night I tripped a nice continental drift divide. Mount St. Edelite.
Leonard Bernstein. Leonid Breshnev, Lenny Bruce and Lester Bangs.
Birthday party, cheesecake, jelly bean, boom! You symbiotic, patriotic,
slam, but neck, right? Right.

It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine...fine...

(It's time I had some time alone)

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PostFri Oct 22, 2010 10:28 pm » by Tertiusgaudens

Ain't no end coming! No way!
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PostSat Oct 23, 2010 7:46 am » by Godsofatlantis

I originally thought the mayan calander ended at the end of 2011, because I was seeing all these doco's in the 90's that said that date.

But who know's it may have already ended. Don't forget its a 25,000 year calendar, it can't be that accurate. It could very well end in like 3,000 years or something, or 100 years.

Who know's.

That's why I don't trust doomsday prophecies, and second of all in the bible it clearly states that no one know's when the world will end.

So the date 2012 is not a doomsday date.
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PostSun Oct 24, 2010 1:09 pm » by lamonema


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PostSun Oct 24, 2010 1:32 pm » by Kdosemjaz

all the moon and sun eclipses are on time.

i dont think it is off maby 15 min

so what now.

it is not the end of the word but end of the time i think.

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PostSun Oct 24, 2010 1:39 pm » by Seemychess

on october 28 2011 time will come to an end so says the mayan tzollkin calender

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PostSun Oct 24, 2010 1:44 pm » by Smallworld

time dont stop,if you start counthing from number 1 and up you well find there is no end to munber.2012 is :bullshit: :bullshit: :bullshit: :bullshit: :bullshit:

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PostSun Oct 24, 2010 1:49 pm » by Kdosemjaz


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