41 PEOPLE DETAINED FOR "PLOTTING TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS"

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PostFri Dec 28, 2012 3:18 am » by zangazanga75


Saudi nwo sharia police stormed a house in the Saudi Arabian province of al-Jouf, detaining more than 41 guests for “plotting to celebrate Christmas,” a statement from the police branch released Wednesday night said.

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The raid is the latest in a string of religious crackdowns against residents perceived to threaten the country's strict religious code.
The host of the alleged Christmas gathering is reported to be an Asian diplomat whose guests included 41 Christians, as well as two Saudi Arabian and Egyptian Muslims. The host and the two Muslims were said to be “severely intoxicated.”

THEY DID THIS DESPITE PROMISING NOT TO RAID PARTIES HELD BY FOREIGNERS OR IN PRIVATE HOMES.

al-akhbar.com

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PostFri Dec 28, 2012 8:25 am » by Opalserpent


LOL ZANGA, LOLOLOLOLOL



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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wire ... &ir=travel

This issue first came to public attention two years ago when it was revealed that Shimon Gapso, the mayor of Upper Nazareth, had banned Christmas trees from all public buildings in his northern Israeli city.

“Upper Nazareth is a Jewish town and all its symbols are Jewish,” Gapso said. “As long as I hold office, no non-Jewish symbol will be presented in the city.”
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PostFri Dec 28, 2012 9:40 am » by zangazanga75


Nazareth Elite Mayor Shimon Gabso was arrested two years ago when it was revealed that he is allegedly taking bribe money from a businessman, The businessman in question was also detained for questioning. The police will ask that the suspects have their remands extended

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=201157

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PostFri Dec 28, 2012 1:04 pm » by Spock


I don't give a shit if they're jewish or Muslim, the fact that people can't put up a tree, celebrate Christmas or drink in their own house is absurd. At least Israel found a way to arrest the Mayor, the Saudi religious police are rampantly off the chain, and there is no amount of deflecting you can do Opal (or Rense.com) to excuse that very REAL FACT.

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PostFri Dec 28, 2012 1:46 pm » by Phaeton


Yes, funny that, 'REAL FACTS'.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Qaynuqa


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/AlSaud.html


2002 Iraqi Intel Reported Wahhabis Are of Jewish Origin
by David Livingstone

The U.S. Department of Defense has released translations of a number of Iraqi intelligence documents dating from Saddam’s rule. One, a General Military Intelligence Directorate report from September 2002, entitled “The Emergence of Wahhabism and its Historical Roots”, shows the Iraqi government was aware of the nefarious purposes of the Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia, often known as Salafis, in serving Western interests to undermine Islam.
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The report relies heavily on the Memoirs of Mr. Hempher, which describe in detail how a British spy to the Middle East, in the middle of the eighteenth century, made contact with Adbul Wahhab, to create a subversive version of Islam, the notorious sect of Wahhabism, which became the founding cult of the Saudi regime. The movement was temporarily suppressed by the Ottomam armies in the middle of the nineteenth century. But with the assistance of the British, the Wahhabis and their Saudi sponsors returned to power and founded their own state in 1932. Since then, the Saudis have collaborated closely with the Americans, to whom they owe their tremendous oil wealth, in funding various Islamic fundamentalist organizations and other American covert operations, particularly the “jihad” in Afghanistan. But the Saudis simulatenously use the immense wealth at their dispossal to disseminate this disruptive brand of Islam to various parts of the world, categorized by some of the largest propaganda campaign in history.
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Many who defend Wahhabism as a legitimate reform movement of Islam have tried to dismiss the Memoirs as a spurious fabrication. These include Bernard Haykel, Professor in Near Eastern Studies at Princeton University, who, without providing any evidence, presumes the Memoirs to have been created by Ayyub Sabri Pasha.
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However, while the Memoirs only emerged in the 1970s, Pasha wrote his version of the story already in 1888. Ayyub Sabri Pasha was a well-known Ottoman writer and Turkish naval admiral, who served the Ottoman army in the Arabian Pensinsula, writing several works about the region and it’s history. Including The Beginning and Spreading of Wahhabism, where he recounts Abdul Wahhab’s association and plotting with Hempher.
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In addition to that revealed in the Hempher Memoirs, the Iraqi intelligence report also makes known some surprising claims, derived from works circulated in Arabic which have not been translated into English. As the report recounts, both Abdul Wahhab, and his sponsor, ibn Saud, who founded the Saudi dynasty, were of Jewish origin.
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For example, D. Mustafa Turan wrote, in The Donmeh Jews, that Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab was a descendant of a family of Donmeh Jews from Turkey. The Donmeh were descendants of followers of the infamous false-messiah of Judaism, Shabbetai Zevi, who shocked the Jewish world in 1666 by converting to Islam. Viewing it as a sacred mystery, Zevi’s followers imitated his conversion to Islam, though secretly keeping to their Kabbalistic doctrines. In Europe, the Shabbeteans were eventually led a century later by Jacob Frank, claiming to be a reincarnation of Zevi. And, according to Rabbi Antelman in To Eliminate the Opiate, to them belonged the Rothschilds who had a hand in the founding of the Bavarian Illuminati. The Donmeh community of Turkey were concentrated in the city of Salonika, which became a hotbed of Masonic activity, and from which the Young Turk movement evolved, which aided in the collapse of the Muslim empire of the Ottoman Turks. There is evidence that Ataturk himself, the founder of the modern Turkish state, was of Donmeh origin as well.
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Turan maintains that Abdul Wahhab’s grandfather, Sulayman was actually Shulman, having belonged to the Jewish community of Bursa in Turkey. From there he settled in Damascus, where he feigned Islam, but was apparently expelled for practicing sorcery. He then fled to Egypt and he again faced condemnation, so made his way he to the Hijaz, where he got married and fathered Abdul Wahhab. According to the report, the same is claimed in The Donmeh Jews and the Origin of the Saudi Wahabis, Rifat Salim Kabar.
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The notion of the Saudi family being of Jewish heritage has been published by Mohammad Sakher, who, it is claimed, was ordered killed by the regime for his revelations. The report relates a similar account, but from different sources. According The Wahabi Movement/The Truth and Roots, by Abdul Wahhab Ibrahim Al-Shammari, for example, ibn Saud is actually descended from Mordechai bin Ibrahim bin Mushi, a Jewish merchant from Basra. Apparently, when he was approached by members from the Arabian tribe of Aniza, then claimed to be one of them, and traveled with them to Najd and his name became Markhan bin Ibrahim bin Musa.
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Additionally, Abdul Wahhab was descended from Wahib Al-Tamimi, so, as reported by al Said Nasir, in The History of the Saud Family, the Saudi ambassador in Cairo, Abdullah bin Ibrahim al Mufaddal, paid Muhammad Al-Tamimi thirty five thousand Jinee in the year 1943, to forge a family tree of the Saudi family and that of Abdul Wahhab, and merge them into one, claiming their origin from the Prophet Mohammed.
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While it would be difficult to independantly authenticate these claims, they are interesting in light of the role that the state of Saudi Arabia has and continues to play with regards to supporting and advancing Western power in the Middle East and elsewhere. Especially astounding is the very dubious and virulent form of Islam, that Wahhabism and Salafism represent, which is currently wrecking havoc on Islamic traditions, and dividing the Muslim community in petty squabbles over trivial details, allowing the War on Islam to proceed effectively unchecked.


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PostFri Dec 28, 2012 3:01 pm » by Spock


I see. So the Saudi royal family is not only in cohorts with the evil jews, but as well, they are evil jews, and created Wahhabi Islam simply to undermine the entire religion (according to Iraqi intelligence reports).

Am I the only one that finds this difficult to believe?

However, a nice bit of deflection, so, for the sake of argument, let's pretend that George W. Bush created the Saudi religious police, I'm sure that's not too difficult for you to imagine, and run with, and possibly to find some internet source which agrees therefore making it absolute truth. Does that justify the religious police's actions in some way? Does that absolve the practicing extremism of the religion? Does that make it okay to arrest people for celebrating Christmas in their house?

Okay so, if it doesn't absolve it, and it's evil and it's George W. Bush's fault, then should I assume you would have no problem with Israel, or the U.S. for that matter invading Saudi Arabia and capturing it to get rid of that Jewish American Extremist Wahhabi Islamic Religious Police? Cause, you know, "moderate mainstream Islam" is NOT going to do anything about it. If not, then should I assume that you would hope it to flourish as it does today, but it mustn't be talked about because any evil ever seemingly perpetrated by the hands of Islam, is really all the fault of the Jews, er uh, George W. Bush?

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PostFri Dec 28, 2012 3:32 pm » by Spock



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PostFri Dec 28, 2012 3:41 pm » by Phaeton


Spock wrote:I see. So the Saudi royal family is not only in cohorts with the evil jews, but as well, they are evil jews, and created Wahhabi Islam simply to undermine the entire religion (according to Iraqi intelligence reports). Am I the only one that finds this difficult to believe?

However, a nice bit of deflection, so, for the sake of argument, let's pretend that George W. Bush created the Saudi religious police, I'm sure that's not too difficult for you to imagine, and run with, and possibly to find some internet source which agrees therefore making it absolute truth. Does that justify the religious police's actions in some way? Does that absolve the practicing extremism of the religion? Does that make it okay to arrest people for celebrating Christmas in their house?

Okay so, if it doesn't absolve it, and it's evil and it's George W. Bush's fault, then should I assume you would have no problem with Israel, or the U.S. for that matter invading Saudi Arabia and capturing it to get rid of that Jewish American Extremist Wahhabi Islamic Religious Police? Cause, you know, "moderate mainstream Islam" is NOT going to do anything it. If not, then should I assume that you would hope it to flourish as it does today, but it mustn't be talked about because any evil ever seemingly perpetrated by the hands of Islam, is really all the fault of the Jews, er uh, George W. Bush?



Damn you mr Spock! There's just no fooling you.. what kind of trickery is this!

Im just an open book to you, arent I.

- My crusade against 'the Evil Jews';

- my attempts at deflection [and a very good attempt, if I do say so myself];

- and last but not least, my desire for an Israeli and / or US invasion of Saudi Arabia.


Damn you Spock, damn you to hell.

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If you want to discuss this in a serious way just let me know.

Until then, here's some more reading material.
http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/iraqi/wahhabi.pdf

And yes, I know, its a non- Western intelligence report. The Islamic feel is probably enough for you to completely disregard it, given your 'trained', sharply perceptive and always objective state of mind.

Dont let the source fool you, The Federation of American Scientists [FAS] is actually a Muslim front to feign criminal endeavors by the Evil Jews. It generally contains fake reports to contribute to their lies.
All in order to further the Islamic plot to unleash its terrorist demonic hordes against the whole o/t Western Christian empire.
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PostFri Dec 28, 2012 3:53 pm » by Spock


Of course, because everyone knows Islam acts as one unified religion, right? No infighting. Saddam himself never killed fellow Muslims did he? Sharia, Sunni, Shia; if it weren't for them evil jews, those guys would just be a great big ole lovefest, wouldn't they.

I just can't imagine Saddam saying something to the effect of; "my policies should have weeded out all but the true Islam, this sectarian violence must be orchestrated, STAFF MAJOR GENERAL - Find me a link to the British government! NOW!"

He was dearly a loved leader - Didn't he receive 100% of the vote? :flop:


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