9/11 New 3D analysis. Very Conclusive
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ghymmie wrote:But where did all the people on the planes go?
That is the most troubling question of them all.....
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electrobadgr wrote:ghymmie wrote:But where did all the people on the planes go?
That is the most troubling question of them all.....
Sadly I think you will find that the people on those planes, actually went into the buildings along with the planes.
There are a lot of grieving people out there that can confirm the death of their loved one.
Including black box recordings only heard in court. Infact the vast amount of footage and recordings are held back to protect the family and thier feelings.


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troll2rocks wrote:electrobadgr wrote:ghymmie wrote:But where did all the people on the planes go?
That is the most troubling question of them all.....
Sadly I think you will find that the people on those planes, actually went into the buildings along with the planes.
There are a lot of grieving people out there that can confirm the death of their loved one.
Including black box recordings only heard in court. Infact the vast amount of footage and recordings are held back to protect the family and thier feelings.
As far as i was aware no black boxes were found at WTC were they? It is also possible that these people did not die on the planes, loose change 2nd edition gives a worthy hypothesis as to how this was done.
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jetxvii wrote:Video demonstrating the misleading and very elementary fact withholding of Simon Shack.
[googlevideo]823734902101057550#[/googlevideo]
Jason Bermas talks about experience with researcher and talks about the fudged facts and "video filters" and "aspect ratios" of film and cameras.
Simon Shack is teaming up with a recent member here called "Killtown" who just started a thread, it seems Simon is releasing a new documentary and is using his puppet Killtown to spread the word by leading people to his sites and information and videos that they produce to further the "No Plane" theory. there is mentioning of a man named Ozzy all of which they seem to be familiar with each other...Dis-information yes most definitely.
here is a link:
http://killtownsecretarchive.blogspot.c ... death.html
http://killtown.911review.org/
these people are specialist I am guessing, and by the numbers of people that believe their crap it really goes to show how good they have gotten... good thing there is people that will point out there crap!
Ok, making my way through this first video and i have to say that it is THIS video which stinks of disinfo bunkum, the presenter resorts to a lot of name calling, calling people stupid for considering the perfectly valid points raised in september clues. The presenter makes a lot of assumptions by saying "this is obviously interferance" during the fade to black and that the news caster was obviously looking at a certain monitor etc, how can a camera on a helicopter several miles away be suceptible to interference for a fraction of a second precisly at the moment of impact? During operation shock and awe in Iraq when several news cameras were filming the horrific attack on baghdad not one camera faded to black during an explosive impact. Also, virtually any pilot will tell you that it is impossible for a plane to be travelling at 574mph at such a low altitude so the calculations done are meaningless. While i agree that certain pieces of information were omitted to help make his case more convincing and the film is far from watertight, that does not detract from the many valid points raised in SC. There are also many,many points that have not been addressed in this half hour debunk video. I do agree that there are far more pressing issues concerning 9/11 than whether or not planes were used. I still do not think it is too far a stretch of the imagination that they weren't used and footage was faked, bear in mind.....no plane wreckage at shanksville, no evidence of a plane hitting the pentagon and no plane wreckage at WTC. While this video does a good job of addressing some elements of september clues, i still have questions.
In any case, it is always good to have an open mind, but i am always wary when debunk videos resort to insults rather than just presenting facts
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Thanks for the detailed response man, all i wanted was for someone o make a reasonable attempt at debunking the stuff. I think the tone of the first video bothered me more than anything else but all the points you made were perfectly valid. I generally dont have much time to research stuff myself so i rely on the community here to share their knowledge with me. Am recordin a band right now so mostly skim read your response. Will have a proper read later, thanks again:-)
"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly. time-y wimey... stuff." - The Doctor
jetxvii you're either a complete retard or shill. After all of the evidence that proves there were no planes, and there was a UFO, you post that fabricated CRAP? Your name and logo has occult written all over it.
Complete and utter bullcrap. electrobadgr, if you watched the first video you would see that the evidence is overwhelming.
It's my belief that the 'normal citizens' who rather sleep in there fantasy world of governments taking care of them then wake up and take responsibility for there own thoughts, but i guess, if you want to be a slave, nobody can take that away from you.
Complete and utter bullcrap. electrobadgr, if you watched the first video you would see that the evidence is overwhelming.
It's my belief that the 'normal citizens' who rather sleep in there fantasy world of governments taking care of them then wake up and take responsibility for there own thoughts, but i guess, if you want to be a slave, nobody can take that away from you.
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