A DTV UTOPIA..

Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:08 am » by **CaptainRutland**

And when you decided to take action,. The action needs a plan right? Sure you can shout out and get mad first. But a new world needs a design. An ideal. And that is what this thread is about. If you are fed up and you want to change things you need a new blueprint to work towards. No goal no gain!

Its very simple. So what is your personal most important ideal you want to see manifested?
And how can we achieve it. Or maybe you can tell us your ideal and we can create a pathway together to make a perfect outcome!

It is what the TPTB already does and what we can do also,. but with everlasting intentions,. those of love and inspiration.

I'm sorry that I missed your reply, the purpose of my original reply/post to 'samuelthemule' was one of guidence, not censor or admonishment. Much as it pains me to state, few would read beyond the opening paragraphs and thus the importance of his message would, in the main, go without notice.

I would advocate clarity and brief statements - but that's just my opinion. He appears to offer words torn from the heart and for me, worth reading. Lincoln did just that with 'the Gettysburg address' - hence the use of that particular example.

In answer to your pertinent question, for myself, the most important 'ideal' would be the acceptance by man, that other men, are just men. That's it really, human's accepting other human's as brothers/sisters.

From that simple start could grow mighty things.

Thank you.

Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:16 am » by **Troll2rocks**

I would like to see cannabis lawful, racism and persecution a thing of the past, materialism forgotten, more money spent on the advancement and betterment of everyone on earth no culture or race excluded. The free flow of information worldwide, planned obsolescence in machinery a thing of the past. The abolishment of a monetary system and all the trappings of it, including "fundamental" religious ideals.

Could happen

Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:50 am » by **Newearthman**

I would like a declaration of rights that would grant liberty and freedom to every person on Earth, like a basic law that applies to everyone that both grants freedom and protection. I would also like to abolish the prison system since it does nothing but create more criminals.

Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:32 pm » by **Samuelthemule**

CaptainRutland wrote:
And when you decided to take action,. The action needs a plan right? Sure you can shout out and get mad first. But a new world needs a design. An ideal. And that is what this thread is about. If you are fed up and you want to change things you need a new blueprint to work towards. No goal no gain!

Its very simple. So what is your personal most important ideal you want to see manifested?
And how can we achieve it. Or maybe you can tell us your ideal and we can create a pathway together to make a perfect outcome!

It is what the TPTB already does and what we can do also,. but with everlasting intentions,. those of love and inspiration.

I'm sorry that I missed your reply, the purpose of my original reply/post to 'samuelthemule' was one of guidence, not censor or admonishment. Much as it pains me to state, few would read beyond the opening paragraphs and thus the importance of his message would, in the main, go without notice.

I would advocate clarity and brief statements - but that's just my opinion. He appears to offer words torn from the heart and for me, worth reading. Lincoln did just that with 'the Gettysburg address' - hence the use of that particular example.

In answer to your pertinent question, for myself, the most important 'ideal' would be the acceptance by man, that other men, are just men. That's it really, human's accepting other human's as brothers/sisters.

From that simple start could grow mighty things.

Thank you.

thank you.

someone was totting this as their signature:
In serving one another we remain free.

i believe so.

Thank you for the reminder to keep it shorter

T2R NEM: More laws/ Less this and that

please understand: it is not the letter of the law that can be enforced, true power is not taken by force, it is gained by induction (service to others), hence why jesus said: HE WHO WOULD BE GREATEST AMONGST YOU, WILL BEGIN BY SERVING THE LOWEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hugging:

it is only the living spirit of "law" which can guide us, and laws are not here to rigidly enforce our obedience, but to act as stabilizing wheels on a bi-cycle (you know how when children are still learning to ride...) eventually the "laws" (stabilizing wheels) will be taken off and the child can trust itself to stay balanced and not cause a crash or chaos ^_^

eventually, when we become shining examples of the spirit of the law, and forget about the letters, because we see them within, we all shall truly be brothers, not by political correctness, but by sharing the spirit of kindness and truth.

Wholeness and Love Brothers!!!!!!!!!

Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:52 pm » by **99socks**

Samuelthemule wrote:there are so many tools for ORGANISING, it's unreal.

the only valid excuse i can think of, which is really more than a reason than an excuse, is that you just don't want to.

But WHY? Why do we "have" to organize? That takes away the organic, natural, fluid nature of everything and makes it just as artificial and VULNERABLE to manipulation as the attitudes, systems, and paradigms we're supposed to be crawling out of.

I find nothing wrong with recuperating together, offering support, etc... but organizing? For what purpose? Nothing Man makes consciously ever lasts- it's the stuff he creates subconsciously that create eternal truths.

Jesus didn't want things organized. He wanted people to be true to themselves, and He pointed at how to "do" it. It starts from the inside.

Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:06 pm » by **Samuelthemule**

99socks wrote:
Samuelthemule wrote:there are so many tools for ORGANISING, it's unreal.

the only valid excuse i can think of, which is really more than a reason than an excuse, is that you just don't want to.

But WHY? Why do we "have" to organize? That takes away the organic, natural, fluid nature of everything and makes it just as artificial and VULNERABLE to manipulation as the attitudes, systems, and paradigms we're supposed to be crawling out of.

I find nothing wrong with recuperating together, offering support, etc... but organizing? For what purpose? Nothing Man makes consciously ever lasts- it's the stuff he creates subconsciously that create eternal truths.

Jesus didn't want things organized. He wanted people to be true to themselves, and He pointed at how to "do" it. It starts from the inside.

we have to have a schedule and discipline to begin doing things,

and the love to break through, when we realize and acknowledge that what we planned to do isn't what we should be doing.

organizing is often the first necessary step, it is what happens after you have the idea breakthrough.

how can we not organize?

you think the great pyramids were made without organization? ;D

stonehenge, machu pichu, great works of art? feats of engineering? here's one: The founding of america?

success is in organization,

even spirituality is about relating things in their proper proportions, and connecting what deserves to be connected, whilst disconnecting or reconnecting things that shouldn't.

that's my take anyway.

I do get what you're saying though.

Intuition needs to be given room to rule Reason. my rebuttal in short: it cannot be allowed so much freedom that it simply runs away with everything and never does anything.

Balancing both halves of the self, and the male and female aspects of the body (brain, chakras, pain (endurance) pleasure (allowing self to relax/injoy).

Wholeness