A letter from Steven Greer

Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:30 pm » by **Heinousone**

boondox681 wrote:
I'de still support him...he seems to be trying for disclosure.

trying too hard if you ask me.that always makes me wary.another post yesterday ask about disclosure.here's the deal.when 'disclosure' comes,millions of people will say,"you've lied to us for decades,about EVERYTHING.how the hell am i supposed to believe you now?"and i'll
be one of them.peace

How the hell does someone try "too hard" when it comes to something they believe in? Has he made mistakes in his approach and his behavior? Hell yeah, sometimes he comes off as a real asshole and that has probably earned him a few people in the community trying to tear apart his work.

The aspect that he pushes most, the energy situation, is the reason why I hope he is successful. Also, so what if he gets involved in providing the new energy sources should this all be successful? That is America folks, the entrepreneurial spirit. Someone is going to have to build the infrastructure people and that costs money. If that is done though it will drastically change your lives so I really do not understand how you can sit there and lambast him for that aspect. It is a disturbing trend that is growing in which people see anyone in a movement having to raise funds and calling them traitors for doing such. People...our barter system is based on trading money. It is necessary to do anything. Money on its own is not a bad thing, it is when it is used like the financial mobsters that run Wall Street have used it. So people, when you see someone raising money to support a movement, THAT IS NOT A BAD THING and to use that as your sole reason for not trusting someone is absolutely ignorant.

If Greer is doing this full time then he Needs to rely upon donations and support. If you dont like what he is doing then dont worry about it and dont support it. If you feel the desire to help him continue such and are able to donate and desire to do such then do so. He isn't forcing anyone to do such. What the hell is so horrible about that?

Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:32 pm » by **TheDuck**

boondox681 wrote:
I'de still support him...he seems to be trying for disclosure.

trying too hard if you ask me.that always makes me wary.another post yesterday ask about disclosure.here's the deal.when 'disclosure' comes,millions of people will say,"you've lied to us for decades,about EVERYTHING.how the hell am i supposed to believe you now?"and i'll
be one of them.peace

True man, the worlds a bit of a conundrem these days isn't it, oh what a tangled web we weave when at first we begin to decieve..

I know ufo's are real as I've seen them with my own eyes, but yeh if you haven't then I can see why you would be skeptical, sucks doesn't it..funny if they disclose ufo's/aliens as a reality and the only people that believed them are the same people who already believe because they've seen with their own eyes, now that would be ironic..

Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:36 pm » by **TheDuck**

heinousone wrote:
boondox681 wrote:
I'de still support him...he seems to be trying for disclosure.

trying too hard if you ask me.that always makes me wary.another post yesterday ask about disclosure.here's the deal.when 'disclosure' comes,millions of people will say,"you've lied to us for decades,about EVERYTHING.how the hell am i supposed to believe you now?"and i'll
be one of them.peace

How the hell does someone try "too hard" when it comes to something they believe in? Has he made mistakes in his approach and his behavior? Hell yeah, sometimes he comes off as a real asshole and that has probably earned him a few people in the community trying to tear apart his work.

The aspect that he pushes most, the energy situation, is the reason why I hope he is successful. Also, so what if he gets involved in providing the new energy sources should this all be successful? That is America folks, the entrepreneurial spirit. Someone is going to have to build the infrastructure people and that costs money. If that is done though it will drastically change your lives so I really do not understand how you can sit there and lambast him for that aspect. It is a disturbing trend that is growing in which people see anyone in a movement having to raise funds and calling them traitors for doing such. People...our barter system is based on trading money. It is necessary to do anything. Money on its own is not a bad thing, it is when it is used like the financial mobsters that run Wall Street have used it. So people, when you see someone raising money to support a movement, THAT IS NOT A BAD THING and to use that as your sole reason for not trusting someone is absolutely ignorant.

If Greer is doing this full time then he Needs to rely upon donations and support. If you dont like what he is doing then dont worry about it and dont support it. If you feel the desire to help him continue such and are able to donate and desire to do such then do so. He isn't forcing anyone to do such. What the hell is so horrible about that?

Have agreed with pretty much everything you've said from the posts I've read of yours and that's a fairly big statement for me to make :flop:

Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:07 pm » by **Heinousone**

theduck wrote:Have agreed with pretty much everything you've said from the posts I've read of yours and that's a fairly big statement for me to make

Wow, thanks duck. I just try to say my peace in a manner in which I hope helps out someone else. Every once and awhile I do get caught up in the silly drama here and I feel foolish after each time.

Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:13 pm » by **Cornbread714**

heinousone wrote:
boondox681 wrote:
I'de still support him...he seems to be trying for disclosure.

trying too hard if you ask me.that always makes me wary.another post yesterday ask about disclosure.here's the deal.when 'disclosure' comes,millions of people will say,"you've lied to us for decades,about EVERYTHING.how the hell am i supposed to believe you now?"and i'll
be one of them.peace

How the hell does someone try "too hard" when it comes to something they believe in? Has he made mistakes in his approach and his behavior? Hell yeah, sometimes he comes off as a real asshole and that has probably earned him a few people in the community trying to tear apart his work.

The aspect that he pushes most, the energy situation, is the reason why I hope he is successful. Also, so what if he gets involved in providing the new energy sources should this all be successful? That is America folks, the entrepreneurial spirit. Someone is going to have to build the infrastructure people and that costs money. If that is done though it will drastically change your lives so I really do not understand how you can sit there and lambast him for that aspect. It is a disturbing trend that is growing in which people see anyone in a movement having to raise funds and calling them traitors for doing such. People...our barter system is based on trading money. It is necessary to do anything. Money on its own is not a bad thing, it is when it is used like the financial mobsters that run Wall Street have used it. So people, when you see someone raising money to support a movement, THAT IS NOT A BAD THING and to use that as your sole reason for not trusting someone is absolutely ignorant.

If Greer is doing this full time then he Needs to rely upon donations and support. If you dont like what he is doing then dont worry about it and dont support it. If you feel the desire to help him continue such and are able to donate and desire to do such then do so. He isn't forcing anyone to do such. What the hell is so horrible about that?

Just for the record, that wasn't my point.

I agree that it's not necessarily wrong to sell books or cover costs through donations. Even Alex fucking Jones has a right to do that.

I'm not questioning his motives so much as his tactics. Tying the Orion thing (which I'm skeptical about) into the disclosure "package"smacks of conflict of interest and I think may ultimately help defeat his (our) purpose.

Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:18 pm » by **domdabears**

I like the guy. I dont like getting the donate emails, but I like what he does. Videos are good too. Id like to go on one of his little ufo calling things.

Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:21 pm » by **Heinousone**

cornbread714 wrote:Just for the record, that wasn't my point.

I agree that it's not necessarily wrong to sell books or cover costs through donations. Even Alex fucking Jones has a right to do that.

I'm not questioning his motives so much as his tactics. Tying the Orion thing (which I'm skeptical about) into the disclosure "package"smacks of conflict of interest and I think may ultimately help defeat his (our) purpose.

Ahh, ok then. It is more then just a right though, it is a necessity. These people, whatever their intentions be, have made a choice to make it a full time venture to do what they are doing and thus they have to raise funds in order to do such. Guess who else does that? Universities that do research. My statement about raising funds while prompted by your words is not solely directed to you. As I said, it is a growing trend due to the distrust in the Financial Institutions of this country that anyone raising money is just a corporate shill. That is disinformation at it's worst and you folks need to take care to not fall into that mindset. Money is nothing but a tool. I could kill you with a hammer, does that make a hammer a horrible thing? No, it helped to build your house and keep you alive. The same goes for Money.

As far as tying all this ventures together? Well, the jury is still out on that. I am sure there are people that think it is a good idea. He certainly does and since he is running it, that is just the way it is. Once again, the positive things he wants to bring about are the important aspects to me. I sometimes think that people who look into subjects like these are not really grasping the reality of just how different our lives would be if these shadow techs were to become realized. The science behind them is pretty sound thus I can believe they are possible. The science and numbers behind the idea of Galactic Civilizations being far more advanced then us also makes sense so it is possible. By adding these two subjects together if we were to ACTUALLY achieve this, it would change all of our lives in an immense way. I guess some people are now in such a fear state that they think such a drastic change could be bad too. That is where I am different. When in a Dark spot you have to reach for the light and in order to do such you have to make a conscious effort to begin focusing on the positive side of things instead of the negative.

Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:26 pm » by **TheDuck**

domdabears wrote:I like the guy. I dont like getting the donate emails, but I like what he does. Videos are good too. Id like to go on one of his little ufo calling things.

What kind of ufo's does he 'call' though? don't recall him saying...

I'de like to see a silver disk...

Have seen black ones through a camera(can't see with naked eye) and orange and blue ones but no disks, yet.. I would speculate that the disks are less advanced anyway but could very well be wrong..

Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:30 pm » by **domdabears**

theduck wrote:
domdabears wrote:I like the guy. I dont like getting the donate emails, but I like what he does. Videos are good too. Id like to go on one of his little ufo calling things.

What kind of ufo's does he 'call' though? don't recall him saying...

I'de like to see a silver disk...

Have seen black ones through a camera(can't see with naked eye) and orange and blue ones but no disks, yet.. I would speculate that the disks are less advanced anyway but could very well be wrong..

i was watching one of his videos and he says he does these group things. he says anyone can go but you need to do this class so that you wont get scared or something. they wont come if your scared i guess. i dont know. i would just like to see a ufo one of these days. Iv never seen anything cool like that. id like to see a ghost too.

Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:49 pm » by **TheDuck**

Not really into this whole ghost thing....(they may be real but their not gonna make our world any better etc..i.m.o.)

The excitement diminishes slightly after a while, just like seeing nice cars I guess after a fair few you no longer get the 'extreme' excitement effect...although it is still nice to see just like a decent modded car...

If there wasn't soo much secrecy ufo's would just be the norm I would like to see everyone at that point on day.

I looked into the ufo calling(vectoring) I think I emailed him too but got no response, he may have thought I was crazy lol(ironic)I won't hold that against him though..(quite expensive his way) I walked to the shop yesterday and saw 2 ufo's, and walked to the shop the day before that and saw 3, around the same time of night..tried to get them on the mobile phone but it wouldn't pic them up in the dark..I must be on some sort of hotspot it can't just be a coincidence that they come out at the same time and travel in roughly the same direction, kinda does my head in not knowing..as for them not coming due to fear I've thought along those lines but don't think that is neccesarily the case anymore that's why I wondered what kind he was seeing..

Gotta get back to poker..

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