A Non-Marketing Attempt at Full Disclosure of "THE 999 PLAN"

Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:26 am » by **Kyo121**

lets not forget there are also jobs like farmer where you work 7 days a week with no day off oh wait...that wouldn't really change nothing with 9 days week...

jokes aside i can't seem to grasp WHY you'd need to change how many days is in a week really...it'd still end up with the same amount of days in the end, like you say it could be a 3 on 1 off 3 on 1 off day without it ever having anything to do with changing how many days in a week btw that's only 8 days but whatever what do i know i'm just another simpleton farmer.

Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:53 am » by **999plan**

spock wrote:
zegtelzegtel wrote:Bruce..
Sorry wanted to apoligise...I thought about it...and its maybe a good idea
3days of work 1 day rest 3 days of work 3days of rest
just wanted to say that i was maybe a bit negative sorry for that.

I have to admit - my wife's schedule for the past year is 2 on - 2 off - 2 on - 1 off - and she has never been happier.

Interesting ...

Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:33 am » by **999plan**

kyo121 wrote:lets not forget there are also jobs like farmer where you work 7 days a week with no day off oh wait...that wouldn't really change nothing with 9 days week...

jokes aside i can't seem to grasp WHY you'd need to change how many days is in a week really...it'd still end up with the same amount of days in the end, like you say it could be a 3 on 1 off 3 on 1 off day without it ever having anything to do with changing how many days in a week btw that's only 8 days but whatever what do i know i'm just another simpleton farmer.

KYO,

If my count was off somewhere in my write up, my apologies. The pattern I envision as a new standard "week" is definitely 9 days: 1-off, 3-on, 1-off, 3-on, 1-off. The two outer "off" days are like our existing typical weekend.

I'm simply claiming that having an extra day off somewhere in the middle of a week would be an excellent sociological and physiological recuperative convenience. It's my belief that people wouldn't think of this as a long 6 or 7 day stretch of time, but rather as two more efficient blocks of 3 consecutive days with breaks in between.

As a farmer, wouldn't you like to have a day off somewhere during the week to soak your aching muscles and spend more time with your family ... this is conjecture on my part, but I just think it would make people happier; not more fatigued as some have also subjectively commented here (without proof of course ...). Regardless of what Flecktarn has been trying to spin, I haven't seen any application studies either way (Pro or Con) so I maintain all this is virgin territory in need of some bold entrepreneurs to try it out. He's named some sources for review who may have tried something similar so I'll check them out to verify his proof.

Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:13 pm » by **999plan**

hesop wrote:Okay, I'll give you my 2 cents.
You don't sound like an engineer, you sound like a car salesman. (just being honest)
I have experience with patents and marketing. Pretty sure you mentioned a patent search for this? Sorry, correct me if I'm wrong, but this is an idea, not a device. Not patentable. That's the first thing you learn about patents. What they cover. Designs, (that's what this is) are only covered by Copyright.
I honestly don't see anything even sellable here. It's an idea/design only.
A high number of places are already turning to a much more efficient system of 4x10-3 now. Savings are seen in utilities, and workers are happier to have 3 days off to spend with their families, after working 4 10hr days.
Having experience with larger number of employees, and difficulty with employee turnover, I can tell you 6 day work weeks will lead to worker burnout and low employee moral. That is a fact. In the current economic situation, with cutbacks already present, many workers are already taking on more stress, extra duties, to keep their jobs. 6 days would be too much. Employee turnover would climb, offsetting any advantages anyone might be able to slightly hash out of the numbers.

The only thing I can see you might be able to do for profit is act as a consultant. But once you get into the office of any major Human Resouces office, they'll probably just tell you the same thing I just did.

Hi Hesop!

Thanks for your insights. Strictly speaking, you're right that ideas and concepts are not patentable. However, processes and tangible products (hardware/software) certainly are. Think about all the different kinds of items that could be designed/created from this if it works; everything from calendars to scheduling / accounting / payroll software, electronic components, etc. The potential list is endless (at least from my perspective).

I can't see how you say people would be more fatigued when they are getting an extra day off in the middle of this new 9-day week pattern. Yes, they would be working 6 days total, but only 27 hours over three consecutive days at any given time. Keep in mind they would now have off a total of 3 days per week. If anything, people would feel more rested and the usage of sick days and stress would decrease, morale would be at an all time high; not low.

As a consultant is exactly how I have structured the marketing approach for this, but basically I've given you everything upfront. The cost is the third "9" in the PLAN. It sounds like you have lots of employees so I'm simply saying multiply 9 by the number of employees and that's my consultant cost. I know that you will save much more than $9 per employee so your payback is virtually immediate. I'm even saying try it out first for FREE under your own voluntary PILOT IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM or one that I will help you create. If it works, fantastic, then in "Good Faith" simply honor my consultant cost. If it doesn't work, then fine, at least you tried it, hopefully we both learned something, and you don't need to give me anything.

Simply put, I just need some progressive thinking businesses really willing to try it ... even those heading into bankruptcy are ideal candidates, but I just don't have the network of contacts to even approach any of the larger corporations; ideally, that would be my primary target group, but I'll talk to any group or business to get this moving forward!

Thanks again,
Bruce

Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:21 pm » by **Kyo121**

well as a farmer there IS no day off...regardless of day of the week rain shine or snow holiday or regular day there is work to be done and it needs to be done that day. Wouldn't i like a day off? of course soon as i can tell the plants to water themselves animals to go feed themselves but that's not gonna happen....so while your 999 maybe good in a corporate world it is useless for alot of people in farming and agriculture, and even then it's only useful in some country since alot of third world country are still full of farmers instead of business companies. Good plan but just not good for everybody.

Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:30 pm » by **Mep630**

cornbread714 wrote:Well, if it wasn't for the scary logo and the name, you might have a chance in finding a few followers.

Why would the OP use an NWO logo for this 999 plan??

Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:05 am » by **999plan**

mep630 wrote:
cornbread714 wrote:Well, if it wasn't for the scary logo and the name, you might have a chance in finding a few followers.

Why would the OP use an NWO logo for this 999 plan??

This symbol was conceived out of the spiritual meaning behind it ... this is not an NWO logo; I am not affiliated with whoever is the NWO ... I'm just a guy trying to make a real difference for humanity. Maybe the NWO falsely claim or accurately use the symbology of God's real Truth ...

Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:19 am » by **Cornbread714**

999plan wrote:This symbol was conceived out of the spiritual meaning behind it ... this is not an NWO logo; I am not affiliated with whoever is the NWO ... I'm just a guy trying to make a real difference for humanity. Maybe the NWO falsely claim or accurately use the symbology of God's real Truth ...

With all due respect, you're a Christian. How does the eye in the pyramid relate to the Christian faith? And don't you think the number 999 coupled with that image might scare people who are Christian or who are superstitious about the Number of the Beast and all that other mumbo-jumbo?
I'm really just curious, because it seems potentially counter-productive to, and possibly inadvertently misrepresentative of, the motive behind your overall 'plan'.

Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:52 am » by **Darrylmckay**

The idea of changing the working week is a bit silly if you dont plan to change the rest of society as well, we have weekends off because thats when the scholls are closed as well and we are free to spend time with our families, which is the point of life isnt it. Work to live not live to work.

Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:53 am » by **Thesaint**

My friend, If you are trying to make a real difference to humanity and as you know not all of humanity believes in God then why say this "God's real Truth" Don't you think that anyone trying to help humanity should be seen to have no connection to religion. I on a personal level find religion offensive. That is why I have a problem with Alex Jones. He has some great fight in him for, I believe, great reasons but I am put of with his "Fire and Brimstone" mentallity. If you pitch anything anywhere you have to have to be seen to having no ties to anything or anybody except the product itself. You need to be seen to have neutrality. Just being honest. No need to come back as this is just to let you know that a Christian pitching to an infidel is just the same as an Infidel pitching to a Christian. The whole point being that the product starts to become secondary just because of a comment when really it shouldn't matter, but it does, cos I am the proof! Regards Adam Zapel

and to add from Cornbread
With all due respect, you're a Christian. How does the eye in the pyramid relate to the Christian faith? And don't you think the number 999 coupled with that image might scare people who are Christian or who are superstitious about the Number of the Beast and all that other mumbo-jumbo?
I'm really just curious, because it seems potentially counter-productive to, and possibly inadvertently misrepresentative of, the motive behind your overall 'plan'.

This is so right corn, don't mean to blow smoke up yer bum but you do bring up some good points. This guy seems to be really switched on to pitch this idea and yet so naive when it comes to other stuff like symbolism. Its not the history of a symbol that matters so much as what it represents to the people that live in the now. If I was using a Swastika to represent my business or product which had nothing to do with the Nat Socialists until the 30s and is only an old sankgrit religious symbol (all being it was reversed) then I would be asking for trouble as to people now it represents the Nazi's (I know its an extreme comparison but it's just to make the point) It also goes with you advertising the fact openly with regard to your choir practice. You would think it would be a good selling point, well maybe 100 years ago but we are becoming more aware and some of us really do find it quite annoying. Unwittingly you could put off Christians because of your symbolism and you could put of non Christians because of your Christian bent. (IMO)

Knackered, going to Devil Worship now I mean bed. Night!