A Sudden, Personal, Visible, Bodily Return od Christ

Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:52 pm » by **Bleever**

There Will Be A Sudden, Personal, Visible, Bodily Return of Christ

Jesus often spoke about his return. "You also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect" (Matt. 24:44). He said, "I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also" (John 14:3). Immediately after Jesus had ascended into heaven, two angels said to the disciples , "This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven" (Acts 1:11). Paul taught, "the Lord himself will descend form heaven wiht a cry of command, with the archangel's call, and with the sound of the trumpet of God" (1 Thess. 4:16). The author of Hebrews wrote that Christ "will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to have those who are eagerly waiting for him" (Heb. 9:28). James wrote, "the coming of the Lord is at hand" (James 5:8). Peter said, "The day of the Lord will come like a thief" (2 Peter 3:10). John wrote, "whenhe appear we shale be like him, for we shall see him as he is" (1 John3;2). And the book of Revelation has frequent references to Christ's return, ending withe Jesus' promise, "Surely, I am coming soon" and John's response, "AMen. Come, Lord Jesus!" (Rev. 22:20)

Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:10 pm » by **Cosmine**

Date and time by any chances!
Would he still bare the same name? If not how would you know it's him?
Would he'll be born of a women?
Or just appear,or maybe he'll drive a ufo!

Just like to know! :twisted:

Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:15 pm » by **Debunkerace**

Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:23 pm » by **Bleever**

cosmine wrote:Date and time by any chances!
Would he still bare the same name? If not how would you know it's him?
Would he'll be born of a women?
Or just appear,or maybe he'll drive a ufo!

Just like to know!

I wish i knew when he was coming back, but clearly the Bible states that no man will know this.

Yes he would bare the same name - I mean if you saw Jesus descend from the heavens you would know his name!

Peace!

Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:27 pm » by **Bleever**

debunkerace wrote::bullshit:

You better hope you are right and I am wrong, all I did was quote scripture. Btw, what can you quote?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:50 pm » by **Mrmcnuggets**

bleever wrote:
debunkerace wrote::bullshit:

You better hope you are right and I am wrong, all I did was quote scripture. Btw, what can you quote?

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."

Christianity is losing the books by that, and then Islam will follow years to come, as well as every religion unless we understand all their underlaying contexts. Period. So go pick up the the next book out side christianity and so on, if you can't, you're surely lost.
:cheers:

Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:57 pm » by **Bleever**

mrmcnuggets wrote:
bleever wrote:
debunkerace wrote::bullshit:

You better hope you are right and I am wrong, all I did was quote scripture. Btw, what can you quote?

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."

Christianity is losing the books by that, and then Islam will follow years to come, as well as every religion unless we understand all their underlaying contexts. Period. So go pick up the the next book out side christianity and so on, if you can't, you're surely lost.

Agreed. Good Point...I gave Cosmine "peace" cause of our mutual respect for one another. But, read other religions...make you own beliefs

Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:15 pm » by **Eliakim**

bleever wrote:There Will Be A Sudden, Personal, Visible, Bodily Return of Christ

Jesus often spoke about his return. "You also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect" (Matt. 24:44).

Biblical scholars agree that when Jesus was talking about the 'Son of Man' to come he was not speaking of himself. This is also confirmed in scripture and in his own words
when he told his followers that the advocate would come to help them next.

Jesus was the first paraclete and he told his followers that another paraclete would come.

Jesus knew that the one promised to Moses was still to come.

In the Psalm it mentions to two different people. One that comes at day time and one that comes at night time.

Jesus came at daytime and the one promised to Moses came at night time.

The first was a man and the second was a woman as the prophets predicted.

In Rev 14 it is also mentions two different lambs.

bleever wrote:He said, "I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also" (John 14:3).

That quote is also reminiscent of the quote from Hosea when it tells the people that the LORD will betroth the people to him through his righteousness and faithfulness. Hosea predicted that the LORD would plant HER in Jezreel, he did that in May 2006.

bleever wrote:Immediately after Jesus had ascended into heaven, two angels said to the disciples , "This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven" (Acts 1:11).

When people truly live in the heavenly state of being they do get to see Jesus.

bleever wrote:Paul taught, "the Lord himself will descend form heaven wiht a cry of command, with the archangel's call, and with the sound of the trumpet of God" (1 Thess. 4:16).

That is a repeat of a prophecy from the OT about the herald that would come at the appointed time about the prophecy against Islam. Read Habakkuk 2. We ran with in 2009 as guided to do so because it was the appointed time to share the commentary on the prophecy.

bleever wrote:The author of Hebrews wrote that Christ "will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to have those who are eagerly waiting for him" (Heb. 9:28).

He can appear in many ways. However, he also told the people that the old heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. In other words, all that will remain of him is what he said because they were the words of the heavenly Father speaking through his Son.

bleever wrote:Peter said, "The day of the Lord will come like a thief" (2 Peter 3:10).

That is because the prophecies in the OT predicted that the second person to come would come at night time of the last days of the end times.

The Apostles also new the OT prophecies of Isaiah that predicted the towers being destroyed and the chief taking the money. The USA have certainly experienced that during the Bush/Obama administration.

bleever wrote:John wrote, "whenhe appear we shale be like him, for we shall see him as he is" (1 John3;2). And the book of Revelation has frequent references to Christ's return, ending withe Jesus' promise, "Surely, I am coming soon" and John's response, "AMen. Come, Lord Jesus!" (Rev. 22:20)

The book of Revelation also tells you that he has a new name, and the one that he chose to put upon his throne also has a new name.

In the book of Revelation the one known as Jesus does not come until after New Jerusalem is built eg the new holy city of enlightenment.

Rev 14 tells you that only the 144,000 can hear the new song and the rest are not meant to hear it
:hugging:

Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:21 pm » by **Constabul**

Is there a point to this post other than preaching?

Seems not.

Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:24 pm » by **Cosmine**

Peace to you to bleever
Any time for a "greek" debate on my Jesus may have been a zealot leader tread?
A sane faith must be base on historical facts an a will to study that bigger picture,like that bible you quote is translated and edited whit a socio-political agenda,like if you read the hebrew thora there are like ten differet names for god,singular,plurar,even feminine,but in our langages everything is translated by god...Of course it doesn't matter those translators knows best!

Scolastics even point out the fact that jews themselves despite the warning of the scritures of not change an iota to the text,efeminine aspect of god(dess)

:cheers:

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