addressing the 2012 issue head on

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PostSat Nov 26, 2011 12:51 am » by Mozi!!a


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Experts admit second Mayan prediction of 2012 as end of the world

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Mexico - The Mexican National Institute of Anthropology and History have admitted that they have a second reference to the date 2012 as "end of the world" on a carved fragment found at an archaeological site in southern Mexico.
Salt Lake Tribune reports that archaeologists have long acknowledged that reference to date 2012 as "end of the world" is found on a stone tablet from the Tortuguero site in the Gulf coast state of Tabasco. But on Thursday, the Mexican National Institute of Anthropology and History announced that there is what appears another reference to the same date in an inscription on a brick found at the Camalcalco ruin. According to a spokesman for the institute Arturo Mendez, the inscription had been known for years and has been carefully studied by experts. Some experts, however, dispute that the "Comalcalco Brick" inscription really makes reference to dates (December 21, 2012 or December 23, 2012) that some have said is the end of the world.
The "Comalcalco Brick" inscription, like the previous Tortuguero inscription, is difficult to interpret because it is cryptic. The Tortuguero inscription, for instance, makes prophetic reference to uncertain but possibly cataclysmic events to occur in 2012, in connection with the Mayan god of war and creation. The mystery of the message in the Tortuguero inscription is complicated by an illegible ending, though some have claimed the eroded text reads "He will descend from the sky."
Salt Lake Tribune reports that the face of the "Comalcalco Brick" which carries the "prophetic message" appears to have been covered with stucco and laid facing inward. This is taken to imply the message on the brick is a sacred message not meant for profane eyes. However, a specialist in Mayan inscriptions at the University of Texas, Austin, David Stuart, said, "[though] some have proposed it as another reference to 2012...I remain rather unconvinced."
Stuart explains that what the brick contains is a "Calender Round," that is, day and month combination that will recur every 52 years.
According to David Stuart, the date on the brick coincides with end of the 13th Baktun, a 394-year period. With the Mayan Long Count calender starting in 3114 B.C., the 13th Baktun will end around December 21, 2012. But according to Stuart,

"There’s no reason it couldn’t be also a date in ancient times, describing some important historical event in the Classic period. In fact, the third glyph on the brick seems to read as the verb huli, 'he/she/it arrives.' There’s no future tense marking [unlike the Tortuguero phrase], which in my mind points more to the Comalcalco date being more historical than prophetic."


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Detail showing three columns of glyphs from 2nd century CE La Mojarra Stela 1. The left column gives a Long Count date of 8.5.16.9.7, or 156 CE. The two right columns are glyphs from the Epi-Olmec script.

Boston Herald reports that the Institute of Anthropology and History says belief that the Mayans prophesied the world will end in December 2012 is misinterpretation of Mayan calender and thought. Newser reports that the Institute of Anthropology and History, in a statement on Thursday, said,

"Western messianic thought has twisted the cosmo-vision of ancient civilizations like the Maya."

The experts, according to Newser, say rather than speak of the end of the world, the Mayans had a cyclical notion of historical time. Cyclical renewal of historical time, the experts say, was not associated with or essentially linked to apocalyptic events.
The announcement of what appears a second reference, in Mayan archaeological relics, to late December 2012 as "end of the world," has, predictably, fueled speculations on Internet.
The Mexican National Institute of Anthropology and History is organizing a forum for 60 Mayan experts at the archaeological site of Palenque to address the rumors that the Mayan Long Count calender predicts the world to end in December, 2012.

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PostSat Nov 26, 2011 2:01 am » by Greatjoy


weareone wrote:dec 21 2012 is nothing to fear

it is a transition. a positive one

those who surround themselves with positive energy will survive and thrive. those that succumb to negative energy will not

prepare yourselves by living happy and fulfilling lives (as much as you can). if nothing happens then at least you have a new positive refreshing outlook. if something does happen, your mind and soul will be prepared

there is nothing wrong with a little bit of positivity, as long as you remain skeptical as well

i personally have already felt the beginning of the energy/conscious shift, but i am more in touch with that side of myself. many are not, and that's ok

there is nothing to fear, my friends

that being said, i am prepared for the mocking. i know that new ideas are scary and confusing, and the most basic and animistic reaction is to mock, tease, and shun.

but please do yourselves a favor and try to search for positive energy. do not let the darnkess of negativity envelope you


I'm in agreement with what you've said and how you're living life.
At times I wonder what people would be thinking and saying at this time in our lives if there never was this "2012" prediction.
For years now it's been used and abused by so many who try to divine the future.,.astrologers, so-called channelers..lol...books and articles galore all throwing out the 2012 card and orchestrating their information to conveniently line up directly with the 12-21-12 date.
I do believe that all that's been prophesied is coming into focus and that no one has any idea just how and when the first event will manifest that they'll be no going back from.

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PostMon Nov 28, 2011 5:55 am » by Malkere


There is one psychic that I trust wholeheartedly due to various personal experiences with the man. He says he cannot predict/see anything past 2012 because everything is so bright. And by "bright" we mean, energetic/loving/warm, aka very good.

The fear porn is just a good money making tool as Hollywood will gladly tell you even if the Mexican government or whatever "secret documentary" that won't be released until whenever won't admit it.

The Mayan calendar people always talk about is a map of evolution. And not of toads growing webbed feet, and birds developing keen eye sight, but of group thought, national bodies; sentient interaction. And so what? the many billions years long evolution chart ends in: everything dies? Come on how stupid do we have to pretend we are to even discuss that?

Even if your religious, what? God made man and Earth and all it's awesomeness just to be a dick and kill everything after he gets bored? I know you're not really that stupid, whoever you are reading this. Mankind and the rest of the thousands of races in our galaxy will carry on for billions of years to come, just as we have for billions of years before.

Don't be silly XD
To realize that you do not understand is a virtue;
Not to realize that you do not understand is a defect. -Lao Tzu

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PostTue Nov 29, 2011 6:07 pm » by Seemychess


Your professional remote veiwers for usa govt. Military grade also can not see beyond dec. 21 2012. This was an articl I read back a while. Love to all

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PostTue Nov 29, 2011 6:10 pm » by Poooooot


weareone wrote:dec 21 2012 is nothing to fear

it is a transition. a positive one

those who surround themselves with positive energy will survive and thrive. those that succumb to negative energy will not

prepare yourselves by living happy and fulfilling lives (as much as you can). if nothing happens then at least you have a new positive refreshing outlook. if something does happen, your mind and soul will be prepared

there is nothing wrong with a little bit of positivity, as long as you remain skeptical as well

i personally have already felt the beginning of the energy/conscious shift, but i am more in touch with that side of myself. many are not, and that's ok

there is nothing to fear, my friends

that being said, i am prepared for the mocking. i know that new ideas are scary and confusing, and the most basic and animistic reaction is to mock, tease, and shun.

but please do yourselves a favor and try to search for positive energy. do not let the darnkess of negativity envelope you

beautiful :hugging:
Matthew 7
“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.


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