Ahmadinejad: Iran's enemies a 'mosquito'

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PostSun Nov 01, 2009 2:32 pm » by Proto


Ahmadinejad: Iran's enemies a 'mosquito'
By Ali Akbar Dareini, Associated Press Writer – 2 hrs 45 mins ago

TEHRAN, Iran – Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Sunday compared the power of Iran's enemies to a "mosquito," saying Iran now deals with the West over its nuclear activities from a position of power.

The comment from Ahmadinejad came as Iran is negotiating with the West over a U.N.-backed proposal to ship its uranium abroad for further enrichment.

The UN-brokered plan would require Iran to send 1.2 tons (or 1,100 kilograms) of low-enriched uranium — around 70 percent of its stockpile — to Russia in one batch by year's end, for processing to create more refined fuel for a Tehran research reactor.

Iran has indicated that it may agree to send only "part" of its stockpile in several shipments. Should the talks fail to help Iran obtain the fuel from abroad, Iran has threatened to enrich uranium to the higher level needed to power the research reactor itself domestically.

After further enrichment in Russia, France would convert the uranium into fuel rods that would be returned to Iran for use in the reactor in Tehran that produces medical isotopes.

"While enemies have used all their capacities ... the Iranian nation is standing powerfully and they are like a mosquito," a government Web site quoted Ahmadinejad early Sunday as saying.

Ahmadinejad also said Iran doesn't trust the West when it sits for talks.

"Given the negative record of Western powers, the Iranian government ... looks at the talks with no trust. But realities dictate to them to interact with the Iranian nation," he said according to the site.

The U.S. and its allies have been pushing for the U.N.-backed agreement as a way to reduce Iran's stockpile of low-enriched uranium to prevent the possibility that Iran may turn them into weapons-grade uranium, materials needed for the core of a nuclear bomb.

Iranian opposition to the U.N. plan could be driven by concerns that the proposal would weaken Iran's control over its stockpiles of nuclear fuel and could be perceived as a concession to the West.

The Tehran reactor needs uranium enriched to about 20 percent, higher than the 3.5 percent-enriched uranium that Iran is producing for a nuclear power plant it plans to build in southwestern Iran. Enriching uranium to even higher levels can produce weapons-grade materials.

Iranian officials have said it is more economical to purchase the more highly enriched uranium needed for the Tehran reactor than to produce it domestically.
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PostSun Nov 01, 2009 2:52 pm » by Proto


well said slush :flop: .
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PostSun Nov 01, 2009 2:57 pm » by Cornbread714


I think it's more complex than that. He wants to play ball, but he wants to save face at the same time.
Some of the rhetoric, if not justified, is at least somewhat understandable. I don't blame him for not wanting to kow-tow to the West.

So, what do you advocate, Slush? War? Or just go in and nuke 'em?

I'm not an anti-Zionist or an apologist for Iran, but I think we need to put this shit in perspective.
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PostSun Nov 01, 2009 3:16 pm » by Cornbread714


slushpup wrote:
cornbread714 wrote:
So, what do you advocate, Slush? War? Or just go in and nuke 'em?

I'm not an anti-Zionist or an apologist for Iran, but I think we need to put this shit in perspective.


Good question..

I have nothing against the Iranian people or country. It is the power base that is the problem..
Just as in so many other countries.. We keep trying to smooze this guy but he just does not get the big picture in my opinion.. You say he tries to save face.. BUT, it isn't about him.. That is my point exactly.. He thinks it is in some degree. That makes for a bad leader. The answer is not a clear cut or clean one..

As for you are not an anti-Zionist or an apologist for Iran. I think that has nothing to do with the issue.. A leader that would bait the world with statements like this one."Iran's enemies a 'mosquito'" is looking for a reaction.. I don't care if you are a zionist, Iranian, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, Wiccan, Gay, straight, tall, short, fat, skinny, seeing this kind of display of intimidation and baiting in light of the seriousness of being a nuclear power shows a side of him that is a little to dark if not unsettling.

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Can't really argue with a lot of that, but I think it does relate to the US and Israeli policies and their own rhetoric.
Yeah, he's dangerous, but I think he can be negotiated with in the long run.
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PostSun Nov 01, 2009 3:24 pm » by Proto


it's all comes down to your perception and point of view ,

did the world and U.S really dodged a bullet like some say when obama was elected ?
the claim was, with the republicans U.S was allmost certainly allready in war with Iran .

if you support this point of view you actually say : the regime in iran is A ok , let them
have nukes no harm will come from that .

the other opinion states that the world might dogged a bullet now , but later on
nonetheless ,the bullet will be shot ,only difference is that the bullet will turn to full nuclear confrontation .

needles to say ,the ones that holds this point of view ,think that the regime in Iran
is dangerous and warmongering and its only a matter of time before this time bomb
explodes .

i dont think anyone really wants war , the best solution would be a change
of government in Iran ,to a government with saner voice ,but as the last elections
and the riots that followed showed ,that's not likely to happen soon.
altough the fall of Berlin wall was unpredictable as well, you cant tell with these kind of things.
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PostSun Nov 01, 2009 4:38 pm » by Esoteric


how about America getting rid of it's nukes! sounds a bit better to me.
they are the only psycho's to have actually trown such bombs on populations!
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PostSun Nov 01, 2009 4:41 pm » by Zegtelzegtel


proto wrote:it's all comes down to your perception and point of view ,

did the world and U.S really dodged a bullet like some say when obama was elected ?
the claim was, with the republicans U.S was allmost certainly allready in war with Iran .

if you support this point of view you actually say : the regime in iran is A ok , let them
have nukes no harm will come from that .

the other opinion states that the world might dogged a bullet now , but later on
nonetheless ,the bullet will be shot ,only difference is that the bullet will turn to full nuclear confrontation .

needles to say ,the ones that holds this point of view ,think that the regime in Iran
is dangerous and warmongering and its only a matter of time before this time bomb
explodes .

i dont think anyone really wants war , the best solution would be a change
of government in Iran ,to a government with saner voice ,but as the last elections
and the riots that followed showed ,that's not likely to happen soon.
altough the fall of Berlin wall was unpredictable as well, you cant tell with these kind of things.


Do you think that a the moment Iran has a nuke, it will nuke Israel?
I think that they just want to play in the big game like evry country wants...If they nuke Israel..there will not be much left of Iran majors cities..and they know it..
Must say that Iran is playin a sneaky game...with al their `no nuke world` declarations..and then say that they will destroy Israel..
I think that if they want to mess with Israel...they already can do a lot of evil...via hezbollah in Lebanon....cut oil...Suicide bombers...I think that if the russian maffia can have ``Dirtybombs``(nuclear trash) then a big nation like Iran can also...............
I dont say there never will be war....but Im trying to point out the complexity of this shit..
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PostSun Nov 01, 2009 4:44 pm » by Boondox681


I think it's more complex than that. He wants to play ball, but he wants to save face at the same time.
Some of the rhetoric, if not justified, is at least somewhat understandable. I don't blame him for not wanting to kow-tow to the West.


ditto.remember,if you throw out an outlandish idea and no one listens,your crazy.but if 10 million people listen,you're a genius.just ask hitler
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PostSun Nov 01, 2009 5:29 pm » by Proto


zegtelzegtel wrote:Do you think that a the moment Iran has a nuke, it will nuke Israel?
I think that they just want to play in the big game like evry country wants...If they nuke Israel..there will not be much left of Iran majors cities..and they know it..
Must say that Iran is playin a sneaky game...with al their `no nuke world` declarations..and then say that they will destroy Israel..
I think that if they want to mess with Israel...they already can do a lot of evil...via hezbollah in Lebanon....cut oil...Suicide bombers...I think that if the russian maffia can have ``Dirtybombs``(nuclear trash) then a big nation like Iran can also...............
I dont say there never will be war....but Im trying to point out the complexity of this shit..


i cant answer that question , i have no idea if iran will nuke israel if it had nukes or not .
i will rather believe that iran is just after nuclear balance , like U.S and USSR ,
both where in conflict for decades and it didn't turned into nukes fire exchanges so it's possible .

however it seems that the regime in iran is a bit unstable mentally, and
does pose a treat to israel , the iranian officials don't really hide there opinions ,
they fund and supply weapons to there proxies hezbollah and
hamas , and some say nukes in the hands of iran means nukes in the hands of terror .

other dismiss this kind of opinions as dogma, but i don't know if its worth taking the chance that it's not .

thinking of nukes under the hands and whims of Ahmadinejad is just not a pleasant thought .
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