All the years Israel said an Iranian nuke was imminent…
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All the years Israel said an Iranian nuke was imminent…
The US media is once again reporting Israeli speculation on Iranian attempts to build a nuclear weapon.
Now, I do think the current Iranian government would like to have nuclear weapons capability.
But here’s a timeline of Israeli warnings on Iranian nukes (via Opinio Juris)
1984: West German intelligence sources claim that Iran’s production of a bomb “is entering its final stages.” US Senator Alan Cranston claims Iran is seven years away from making a weapon.
1992: Israeli parliamentarian Benjamin Netanyahu tells his colleagues that Iran is 3 to 5 years from being able to produce a nuclear weapon.
1995: The New York Times reports that US and Israeli officials fear “Iran is much closer to producing nuclear weapons than previously thought” – less than five years away. Netanyahu claims the time frame is three to five years.
1996: Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres claims Iran will have nuclear weapons in four years.
1998: Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld claims Iran could build an ICBM capable of reaching the US within five years.
1999: An Israeli military official claims that Iran will have a nuclear weapon within five years.
2001: The Israeli Minister of Defence claims that Iran will be ready to launch a nuclear weapon in less than four years.
2002: The CIA warns that the danger of nuclear weapons from Iran is higher than during the Cold War, because its missile capability has grown more quickly than expected since 2000 – putting it on par with North Korea.
2003: A high-ranking Israeli military officer tells the Knesset that Iran will have the bomb by 2005 — 17 months away.
2006: A State Department official claims that Iran may be capable of building a nuclear weapon in 16 days.
2008: An Israeli general tells the Cabinet that Iran is “half-way” to enriching enough uranium to build a nuclear weapon and will have a working weapon no later than the end of 2010.
2009: Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak estimates that Iran is 6-18 months away from building an operative nuclear weapon.
2010: Israeli decision-makers believe that Iran is at most 1-3 years away from being able to assemble a nuclear weapon.
2011: IAEA report indicates that Iran could build a nuclear weapon within months.
2013: Israeli intelligence officials claim that Iran could have the bomb by 2015 or 2016.
There shouldn’t be any doubt that it is entirely foolish to rely on Israeli intelligence on the matter.
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2013/01/29/all-the-years-israel-said-an-iranian-nuke-was-imminent/
The US media is once again reporting Israeli speculation on Iranian attempts to build a nuclear weapon.
Now, I do think the current Iranian government would like to have nuclear weapons capability.
But here’s a timeline of Israeli warnings on Iranian nukes (via Opinio Juris)
1984: West German intelligence sources claim that Iran’s production of a bomb “is entering its final stages.” US Senator Alan Cranston claims Iran is seven years away from making a weapon.
1992: Israeli parliamentarian Benjamin Netanyahu tells his colleagues that Iran is 3 to 5 years from being able to produce a nuclear weapon.
1995: The New York Times reports that US and Israeli officials fear “Iran is much closer to producing nuclear weapons than previously thought” – less than five years away. Netanyahu claims the time frame is three to five years.
1996: Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres claims Iran will have nuclear weapons in four years.
1998: Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld claims Iran could build an ICBM capable of reaching the US within five years.
1999: An Israeli military official claims that Iran will have a nuclear weapon within five years.
2001: The Israeli Minister of Defence claims that Iran will be ready to launch a nuclear weapon in less than four years.
2002: The CIA warns that the danger of nuclear weapons from Iran is higher than during the Cold War, because its missile capability has grown more quickly than expected since 2000 – putting it on par with North Korea.
2003: A high-ranking Israeli military officer tells the Knesset that Iran will have the bomb by 2005 — 17 months away.
2006: A State Department official claims that Iran may be capable of building a nuclear weapon in 16 days.
2008: An Israeli general tells the Cabinet that Iran is “half-way” to enriching enough uranium to build a nuclear weapon and will have a working weapon no later than the end of 2010.
2009: Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak estimates that Iran is 6-18 months away from building an operative nuclear weapon.
2010: Israeli decision-makers believe that Iran is at most 1-3 years away from being able to assemble a nuclear weapon.
2011: IAEA report indicates that Iran could build a nuclear weapon within months.
2013: Israeli intelligence officials claim that Iran could have the bomb by 2015 or 2016.
There shouldn’t be any doubt that it is entirely foolish to rely on Israeli intelligence on the matter.
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2013/01/29/all-the-years-israel-said-an-iranian-nuke-was-imminent/
"Those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music"
"All our science measured against reality, is primitive and childlike - yet, in contemporary consensus, its the most precious thing we have"
"All our science measured against reality, is primitive and childlike - yet, in contemporary consensus, its the most precious thing we have"
Who knows what is going on unless you were there on both sides. According to what side you favor, they are both evil. But there is no doubt that Israel is heavily armed in might. If Israel can have nukes, everyone including children should have nukes. Let alone wanting nuclear energy for peaceful purposes.
Yaok wrote:Who knows what is going on unless you were there on both sides. According to what side you favor, they are both evil. But there is no doubt that Israel is heavily armed in might. If Israel can have nukes, everyone including children should have nukes. Let alone wanting nuclear energy for peaceful purposes.
I understand what you mean.
However, this thread is about the decades old propagandish soundbites issued from Zionist sources in this context.
Culminating in the highly acclaimed 'Bibi holding up the cartoonish bomb' divided up in three ominous parts, as 'a visual aid'.
..Dont we just love aids.
I can remember a certain Colin P doing a great job with his aids.
"Those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music"
"All our science measured against reality, is primitive and childlike - yet, in contemporary consensus, its the most precious thing we have"
"All our science measured against reality, is primitive and childlike - yet, in contemporary consensus, its the most precious thing we have"
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Look at it this way, Israel didn't bomb Iran in spite of years of rhetoric.
It reminds me of the story of the boy that cried wolf. Sooner or later Iran will have a nuke,
but by then most people will not believe it or care.
Good post P
It reminds me of the story of the boy that cried wolf. Sooner or later Iran will have a nuke,
but by then most people will not believe it or care.
Good post P


WillEase666 wrote:Look at it this way, Israel didn't bomb Iran in spite of years of rhetoric.
It reminds me of the story of the boy that cried wolf. Sooner or later Iran will have a nuke,
but by then most people will not believe it or care.
Good post P
Well, as we all know, or should know, Israel wages her wars by proxy. She will not be able to wage war against Iran on her own, even if she wanted to. Excluding the nuclear option ofcourse, which would be detrimental to PR.
They have obviously tried, tried and tried again to sway the proxy public's opinion over several decades.
Reminds me of the little engine that could..
..'nt.
"I think I can, I think I can.."
"Those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music"
"All our science measured against reality, is primitive and childlike - yet, in contemporary consensus, its the most precious thing we have"
"All our science measured against reality, is primitive and childlike - yet, in contemporary consensus, its the most precious thing we have"
It's like the Pot calling the Kettle Black. Iran invites the IAEA in to inspect their facilities and Israel still doesn't acknowledge their Dimona facility and their alleged 200 nuclear warheads. That doesn't smell Kosher at all.
@All, if we all lived on the same block with Spock, Troll2rocks, Phaeton etc. All who live on this block have nuclear energy except one. Sorry, Troll but you it in this case. At any rate, Troll has issues with some of the others on the blocks however, for the most part is tolerated. Troll decides he wants nuclear power too so he decides to stop posting crap and learning more to build his own reactor system.
What does the rest of the block do?
A. Get together as a majority and tell Troll he can't have it and threaten him that if he
does, there will be consequences from the rest of the block?
B. Get together with Troll and introduce all those that are present from the block. Offer to show
Troll the correct way to facilitate production safely and ask Troll to join the Block / group, so
we don't have radiological issues in the future for our grandchildren to NOT have to deal with?
"The one thing that should bring mankind together is the simple fact that we are All born of this Earth. Maybe from different locations with customs, cultures, traditions and languages twisted and opposite. However, one in that we are Earthlings equal beyond comparison to any of Earths other creations."
Instead we still listen to the one who whispers to you that your neighbors are bad. The kin to Freud, Nephew Bernays, took the word Propaganda and turned it into Public Relations and Israel continues to run with it on his behalf.
@All, if we all lived on the same block with Spock, Troll2rocks, Phaeton etc. All who live on this block have nuclear energy except one. Sorry, Troll but you it in this case. At any rate, Troll has issues with some of the others on the blocks however, for the most part is tolerated. Troll decides he wants nuclear power too so he decides to stop posting crap and learning more to build his own reactor system.
What does the rest of the block do?
A. Get together as a majority and tell Troll he can't have it and threaten him that if he
does, there will be consequences from the rest of the block?
B. Get together with Troll and introduce all those that are present from the block. Offer to show
Troll the correct way to facilitate production safely and ask Troll to join the Block / group, so
we don't have radiological issues in the future for our grandchildren to NOT have to deal with?
"The one thing that should bring mankind together is the simple fact that we are All born of this Earth. Maybe from different locations with customs, cultures, traditions and languages twisted and opposite. However, one in that we are Earthlings equal beyond comparison to any of Earths other creations."
Instead we still listen to the one who whispers to you that your neighbors are bad. The kin to Freud, Nephew Bernays, took the word Propaganda and turned it into Public Relations and Israel continues to run with it on his behalf.
'B' would work if all those involved actually desired 'peace', wanted all to prosper equally.
'Spock' doesnt want that though.
He's out for block domination, and doesnt need 'Troll' in that light.
Evenmore, Spock needs what Troll has to consolidate his control over the block.
'Spock' doesnt want that though.
He's out for block domination, and doesnt need 'Troll' in that light.
Evenmore, Spock needs what Troll has to consolidate his control over the block.
"Those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music"
"All our science measured against reality, is primitive and childlike - yet, in contemporary consensus, its the most precious thing we have"
"All our science measured against reality, is primitive and childlike - yet, in contemporary consensus, its the most precious thing we have"
Phaeton wrote:'B' would work if all those involved actually desired 'peace', wanted all to prosper equally.
'Spock' doesnt want that though.
He's out for block domination, and doesnt need 'Troll' in that light.
Evenmore, Spock needs what Troll has to consolidate his control over the block.
huh?


It's not about getting there, it's what you get out of the journey
Read Rkobilan's post Slith.
"Those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music"
"All our science measured against reality, is primitive and childlike - yet, in contemporary consensus, its the most precious thing we have"
"All our science measured against reality, is primitive and childlike - yet, in contemporary consensus, its the most precious thing we have"
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