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PostFri Jan 27, 2012 12:37 pm » by Flecktarn


heres some facts amercains might find hard to swallow ,,iran never gave the ira money ,semtex,weapons ,it was well known by military intelligence that a large majority almost 86% came via nor aid ,so that was from amercain citizens pockets and some business and political figures ,this was known to the British government ,but it kept the situation going to benefit the economy and keep the best real life urban training ground the uk has ever had ,, don't get suckered by the propaganda against iran ,they are no threat once you remove the blinkers off the stubborn donkey,
also people need to ask themselves why did we go to war with iraq ,afgahanistan,
oil and minerals ,and what dose iran have in abundance ,,,oil
as i posted before the last trip of mine in afghan i was escorting geologists searching for minerals ,not for the benefit of the afghans but the benefit of he amercain government,and don't complain about the poppy crop since the coalition has been in country the crop has gone from strength to strength ,so flooding country's with drugs ,no doubt by cia air freight ,,if you are foolish enough to believe the hype in the media and governments about iran,,i have some magic beans for sell and a goose that lays golden eggs and a hen with a beak full of teeth and a rocking horse that shits all over the floor
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PostFri Jan 27, 2012 12:49 pm » by Phaeton


flecktarn wrote:heres some facts amercains might find hard to swallow ,,iran never gave the ira money ,semtex,weapons ,it was well known by military intelligence that a large majority almost 86% came via nor aid ,so that was from amercain citizens pockets and some business and political figures ,this was known to the British government ,but it kept the situation going to benefit the economy and keep the best real life urban training ground the uk has ever had ,, don't get suckered by the propaganda against iran ,they are no threat once you remove the blinkers off the stubborn donkey,
also people need to ask themselves why did we go to war with iraq ,afgahanistan,
oil and minerals ,and what dose iran have in abundance ,,,oil
as i posted before the last trip of mine in afghan i was escorting geologists searching for minerals ,not for the benefit of the afghans but the benefit of he amercain government,and don't complain about the poppy crop since the coalition has been in country the crop has gone from strength to strength ,so flooding country's with drugs ,no doubt by cia air freight ,,if you are foolish enough to believe the hype in the media and governments about iran,,i have some magic beans for sell and a goose that lays golden eggs and a hen with a beak full of teeth and a rocking horse that shits all over the floor



Good stuff Fleck :flop:

Afghanistan & Iraq [and all the Arab Spring countries that will follow] have been demoted to colonies that serve to feed 'the war on drugs' [which they create & profit from] and ' the war on terror' [which they create & profit from]. Next to ofcourse usurping all the natural resources of said countries.
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PostFri Jan 27, 2012 6:34 pm » by Truthdefender


phaeton wrote:
truthdefender wrote:Quite an article Phaet. Don't really know what to make of it. It ends theologically sound as only the Risen Son of the Most High can rescue this fallen world. It breeds dissension however. Between Sunni's and Shia's. Catholics and Protestants. East and West. It astounds me that the secular world is oblivious to the fact that something grand, the story of the ages, the only story, of this physical universe, is playing out here, on this planet, amongst this generation. Good to see you brother.

Just wanted to point out to you that this can be found on the page you referenced:
myth-of-the-khazars-t58036.html

Brother Chris White Debunks the Lie: Ashkenazi Jews of Israel are Gentile Khazars
http://www.vaticanassassins.org/2012/01 ... e-khazars/


How have you been friend? I must say brother, your avatar makes my hairs stand up..
But thats my problem :wink:

About your link to the vdo apparantly disproving the assertions of the unSemetic origins of the Ashkenazim; Im not able to watch vdo's where I am at present, but I will add that no one source should be seen as absolute truth.. truth can only be discerned through critical, intelligent reflection / logic based on a necessary collection of fundamental reference points. Having said that, Im not implying the information is false per se, as I obviously havent been able to watch it.

What I will be interested to know, though, is how this man refutes the, imo, rather clear conclusion the Ashkenazim are not from the lineage of Shem. Ashkenazim are the sons of Ashkenaz, which is the son of Gomer, which is the son of Japheth, and are thus not Semites. Not from the line of Abraham [which is, again, Shem].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogies_of_Genesis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomer_%28Genesis%29


The main premise is the use of DNA evidence to link the Sephartic Jews (Spain) with the Ashkenaz (which only means Germans) with the Samaritan Jews who never left the middle east. It traces the 'Cohen' line, descendants of Aaron. It disputes race as opposed to parentage. Showing that regardless of color or race most Jews around the world share a common parent in their DNA. (which they share with some Jordanians and Palestinians)

And yes my Avatar is a little dig at everybody. You and I have come to an understanding, agreeing to disagree, I am empathetic to both sides. I am neutral on the Palestinian/Israeli question as I understand I do not understand. But against the rest of the God hating anti-semitic world, I stand with Israel.


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PostFri Jan 27, 2012 6:44 pm » by Truthdefender


flecktarn wrote:heres some facts amercains might find hard to swallow ,,iran never gave the ira money ,semtex,weapons ,it was well known by military intelligence that a large majority almost 86% came via nor aid ,so that was from amercain citizens pockets and some business and political figures ,this was known to the British government ,but it kept the situation going to benefit the economy and keep the best real life urban training ground the uk has ever had ,, don't get suckered by the propaganda against iran ,they are no threat once you remove the blinkers off the stubborn donkey,
also people need to ask themselves why did we go to war with iraq ,afgahanistan,
oil and minerals ,and what dose iran have in abundance ,,,oil
as i posted before the last trip of mine in afghan i was escorting geologists searching for minerals ,not for the benefit of the afghans but the benefit of he amercain government,and don't complain about the poppy crop since the coalition has been in country the crop has gone from strength to strength ,so flooding country's with drugs ,no doubt by cia air freight ,,if you are foolish enough to believe the hype in the media and governments about iran,,i have some magic beans for sell and a goose that lays golden eggs and a hen with a beak full of teeth and a rocking horse that shits all over the floor


I'm tired of war for any reason in any land. And I agree fleck, why Qaddafi and not Assad? Not enough assets to attain! Can't say that Iran is no threat however, but I am sick of 'preemptive' BS. Not to mention Iran is not Afghan or Iraq, this confrontation could easily go global.


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PostFri Jan 27, 2012 7:58 pm » by Phaeton


truthdefender wrote:
phaeton wrote:
truthdefender wrote:Quite an article Phaet. Don't really know what to make of it. It ends theologically sound as only the Risen Son of the Most High can rescue this fallen world. It breeds dissension however. Between Sunni's and Shia's. Catholics and Protestants. East and West. It astounds me that the secular world is oblivious to the fact that something grand, the story of the ages, the only story, of this physical universe, is playing out here, on this planet, amongst this generation. Good to see you brother.

Just wanted to point out to you that this can be found on the page you referenced:
myth-of-the-khazars-t58036.html

Brother Chris White Debunks the Lie: Ashkenazi Jews of Israel are Gentile Khazars
http://www.vaticanassassins.org/2012/01 ... e-khazars/


How have you been friend? I must say brother, your avatar makes my hairs stand up..
But thats my problem :wink:

About your link to the vdo apparantly disproving the assertions of the unSemetic origins of the Ashkenazim; Im not able to watch vdo's where I am at present, but I will add that no one source should be seen as absolute truth.. truth can only be discerned through critical, intelligent reflection / logic based on a necessary collection of fundamental reference points. Having said that, Im not implying the information is false per se, as I obviously havent been able to watch it.

What I will be interested to know, though, is how this man refutes the, imo, rather clear conclusion the Ashkenazim are not from the lineage of Shem. Ashkenazim are the sons of Ashkenaz, which is the son of Gomer, which is the son of Japheth, and are thus not Semites. Not from the line of Abraham [which is, again, Shem].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogies_of_Genesis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomer_%28Genesis%29


The main premise is the use of DNA evidence to link the Sephartic Jews (Spain) with the Ashkenaz (which only means Germans) with the Samaritan Jews who never left the middle east. It traces the 'Cohen' line, descendants of Aaron. It disputes race as opposed to parentage. Showing that regardless of color or race most Jews around the world share a common parent in their DNA. (which they share with some Jordanians and Palestinians)

And yes my Avatar is a little dig at everybody. You and I have come to an understanding, agreeing to disagree, I am empathetic to both sides. I am neutral on the Palestinian/Israeli question as I understand I do not understand. But against the rest of the God hating anti-semitic world, I stand with Israel.


That might be the case, but we also know genepools have been mixed to the extreme.
Which brings up the question, where do we draw the line? When do we label someone Semetic, and when is the Semetic genepool 'diluted' in such a level that this label is illegitimate. We could compare it to dog pedigree's, dilute a pedigree enough and one gets a mongrel.. Yet, this would be undermined completely if the term 'Ashkenazim', indeed merely means 'Germanic'. Meaning, in that case, my whole premise is not viable / incorrect.

Im not inclined to believe that, sounds illogical. Do you have any information that proves 'Ashkenazim' does in fact not mean the geneology of Ashkenaz? Because if you look at the people that sprang forth from Japheth, these are the people of Europe, thus Germany would be included.
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PostFri Jan 27, 2012 8:15 pm » by Truthdefender


I can only relay to you what is in the vid. It shows some current DNA analysis with 99% consistencies in some cases. And demonstrates that regardless of intermarriage, the shared genes among the Jewish spectrum is remarkable. From Ethiopia to Spain back to Samaria. Meaning that the current Jews and Isrealis are in fact descendant from an ancient middle eastern common ancestor (Abraham) and not Jews in name/Judaism only descending from the Khazars. basically the whole thirteenth tribe theory is bollux. It does concede however that in Judaism, a convert is then considered Jewish. Now my stance on this is that when the Bible predicted that God would call His people out of all nations of the world and regather them in Israel in the 'latter days' the DNA evidence backs this up.


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PostFri Jan 27, 2012 8:50 pm » by Phaeton


truthdefender wrote:I can only relay to you what is in the vid. It shows some current DNA analysis with 99% consistencies in some cases. And demonstrates that regardless of intermarriage, the shared genes among the Jewish spectrum is remarkable. From Ethiopia to Spain back to Samaria. Meaning that the current Jews and Isrealis are in fact descendant from an ancient middle eastern common ancestor (Abraham) and not Jews in name/Judaism only descending from the Khazars. basically the whole thirteenth tribe theory is bollux. It does concede however that in Judaism, a convert is then considered Jewish. Now my stance on this is that when the Bible predicted that God would call His people out of all nations of the world and regather them in Israel in the 'latter days' the DNA evidence backs this up.


Ill just have to check that vdo [and its author] and come back on it.

Thanks for the heads up brother.
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