Ancient Egypt's Pyramids: Norwegian Research Unlocks Secrets

Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:12 pm » by **Malkere**

exactly.
thousands of years of people climbing over them, wind blowing sand in their eyes and all kinds of stuff. the inside and protected areas are much different than the easiest accessed and least stable point: an outer lower corner.

Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:42 am » by **Deuem**

Gentlemen, I thought that the outside of the pyramids were clad in white stone until just recently. Is it true or false that the locals tore off the cladding stones with in the last few hundred years to build parts of Cairo? If this is indeed what happened then the pyramid was covered for most of its life and erosion would not be an issue. Since they lost their cladding recently, the amount of rain fall would not be an issue but sand storms would not help. The only difference I see is the amount of work that had to go into cutting the blocks. Rather they were perfect to start with or rough cut should only effect the amount of quarry time? I do agree that the interior work was much harder in all respects.

In this photo you can see the main entrance. Look at the stones above it. Huge and also cut on a 45 degree angle. Those are the amazing ones and others like them that really are difficult to understand how they were quarried, cut and placed. By comparison the smaller stones making up the 2 million pyramid blocks seem to be small and insignificant.

I give credit to who ever took this photo, I have no name to attach.

I took this photo into CAD and if you measure the pyramid blocks on the right they are of all different sizes in width. The closest size to each other is the height per level. But also notice that all of the blocks are placed over the next row on the center line of the below blocks. Just like they do when the set bricks nowadays. In all of the text I have found to date they seem to have the height of the block constant per level. But not all levels are the same height. So a lot of sorting must have been going on. The first ten levels are around 1.5 meters each. So I would imagine that there was a big pile of rocks somewhere that were to small and would be used later. It would make sense to go after the largest blocks first and if scrapped use them for the smaller ones.
Deuem :cheers:

Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:46 am » by **Propagandist**

deuem wrote:Gentlemen, I thought that the outside of the pyramids were clad in white stone until just recently. Is it true or false that the locals tore off the cladding stones with in the last few hundred years to build parts of Cairo? If this is indeed what happened then the pyramid was covered for most of its life and erosion would not be an issue. Since they lost their cladding recently, the amount of rain fall would not be an issue but sand storms would not help. The only difference I see is the amount of work that had to go into cutting the blocks. Rather they were perfect to start with or rough cut should only effect the amount of quarry time? I do agree that the interior work was much harder in all respects.

In this photo you can see the main entrance. Look at the stones above it. Huge and also cut on a 45 degree angle. Those are the amazing ones and others like them that really are difficult to understand how they were quarried, cut and placed. By comparison the smaller stones making up the 2 million pyramid blocks seem to be small and insignificant.

I give credit to who ever took this photo, I have no name to attach.

I took this photo into CAD and if you measure the pyramid blocks on the right they are of all different sizes in width. The closest size to each other is the height per level. But also notice that all of the blocks are placed over the next row on the center line of the below blocks. Just like they do when the set bricks nowadays. In all of the text I have found to date they seem to have the height of the block constant per level. But not all levels are the same height. So a lot of sorting must have been going on. The first ten levels are around 1.5 meters each. So I would imagine that there was a big pile of rocks somewhere that were to small and would be used later. It would make sense to go after the largest blocks first and if scrapped use them for the smaller ones.
Deuem

Holy Christ :ohno:

Thanks so much for this breath taking picture :pray:

Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:55 pm » by **Malkere**

http://marczawel.files.wordpress.com/20 ... c_0009.jpg
look at the lowest upward facing surfaces, where you can see the blocks beside each other meet. they are straight close cuts. cut with bronze saws. BRONZE! cutting 2 millions STONES with BRONZE!! it's ludicrous!

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/orig ... 453081.jpg

(images found using google.com, nothing to do with me or this site)

Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:20 pm » by **Deuem**

malkere wrote:http://marczawel.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/dsc_0009.jpg
look at the lowest upward facing surfaces, where you can see the blocks beside each other meet. they are straight close cuts. cut with bronze saws. BRONZE! cutting 2 millions STONES with BRONZE!! it's ludicrous!

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/orig ... 453081.jpg

(images found using google.com, nothing to do with me or this site)

Nice photos attached, all of the blocks in those photos have been cut. The ones inside have also been polished. If we were to do this today, no one could afford to have blocks that size machined that precise. They would use very large tiles and make it look like blocks. They would have no choice on the really huge ones, they would have to be machined. In today's factory, they would grind them to get a polished finished. I can only imagine that those stones were lapped flat.

So where are you going with your thoughts. ET, a thousand years, a more developed nation. I like to read your ideas. If there is another way, I would be interested.

If we leave out ET, it feels like they had someone there who was a lot smarter than they are telling us about. I still feel if it was ET, they would have done a better job or ET with no tools, so that gets me back to a smarter lost race. What do you think?
Deuem :cheers:

Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:30 pm » by **Pitbulterrorist**

heres my theory, the aliens that came to egypt had a pyramid ufo and the egyptians saw it was a solid object that glowed like fire and could fly. the aliens asked the eygytians to mine gold for them but the egyptians said they will if they can have a craft like theirs that flys. the aliens said they can't give them one of thiers but will give them the plans to make one for themselves in return for slave labour. so thats why there is big chambers in the pyramid to create massive fires with the vent holes on different levels. the egyptians where convinced it could fly but the aliens knew it never would. but because it took decades to build by the time the egyptians had finished it the aliens would have been long gone and the egyptians would have felt robbed.

Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:00 am » by **Farmski**

propagandist wrote:
deuem wrote:Gentlemen, I thought that the outside of the pyramids were clad in white stone until just recently. Is it true or false that the locals tore off the cladding stones with in the last few hundred years to build parts of Cairo? If this is indeed what happened then the pyramid was covered for most of its life and erosion would not be an issue. Since they lost their cladding recently, the amount of rain fall would not be an issue but sand storms would not help. The only difference I see is the amount of work that had to go into cutting the blocks. Rather they were perfect to start with or rough cut should only effect the amount of quarry time? I do agree that the interior work was much harder in all respects.

In this photo you can see the main entrance. Look at the stones above it. Huge and also cut on a 45 degree angle. Those are the amazing ones and others like them that really are difficult to understand how they were quarried, cut and placed. By comparison the smaller stones making up the 2 million pyramid blocks seem to be small and insignificant.

I give credit to who ever took this photo, I have no name to attach.

I took this photo into CAD and if you measure the pyramid blocks on the right they are of all different sizes in width. The closest size to each other is the height per level. But also notice that all of the blocks are placed over the next row on the center line of the below blocks. Just like they do when the set bricks nowadays. In all of the text I have found to date they seem to have the height of the block constant per level. But not all levels are the same height. So a lot of sorting must have been going on. The first ten levels are around 1.5 meters each. So I would imagine that there was a big pile of rocks somewhere that were to small and would be used later. It would make sense to go after the largest blocks first and if scrapped use them for the smaller ones.
Deuem

Holy Christ Thanks so much for this breath taking picture

this is not an entrance, its a dug out and blasted tunnel made to gain entry

Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:35 am » by **Deuem**

@ farmski,

From all I have read, ( I have never been there ) Where you see the 4 large stones in the rear with the angle cuts is what they call the Entrance. Where you see the people going in is an entry made by tomb robbers. On the main entrance there is a very large and hard stone so they dug a tunnel around it, through the softer Pyramid stones. According to the maps, that tunnel goes in and then to the left to connect with the main entrance tunnel on the other side. The main tunnel then goes to the other chambers.

@pitbulterrorist, Hi Pit, glad you could join in. I like your theory. ET screwed them and left. Got the gold, time to leave. Sounds like the government. Did you get a chance to check out my Deuem thread. I would like to see what you think. Good to see you again.
Deuem:cheers:

Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:12 pm » by **Kingz**

deuem wrote:@kingz, Hi, I have read this article 5 times now and went out to the web site and read it again. It seems to be full of nothing? Except for the notion of a grid. People have been building with grids as far back as I know of. I don't see why this is so remarkable. It proves nothing to me. The discussion Charlie and I are having is better than the article in that web site. It must have been a slow day for news. I still can't see what secret he figured out. If you have any follow ups to this, please post them. Thanks,
Deuem

@deuem, looool... first of all i'm honored that a random thread of mine from 2010 has been pulled out of the dusty archives of DTV :pray:

And not only that, but it appearantly has released a discussion. Between just newbies nonetheless.. :twisted:

But most importantly your statement by reading the article a mere 5 times, you obviously were oblivious by my earlier statement before the article written in BLUE, I will put tmy quote again here...

kingz wrote:I just want to say in advance, don't get your hopes up, because this guy doesn't make much sense at all to me... could be some disinfo, or just some professor who thinks he can outsmart the rest of the fuckers.....?

Hopefully the next time you will read the ENTIRE message instead of jumping words, will make things a lot easier :lol:

Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:00 pm » by **Deuem**

kingz wrote:
kingz wrote:I just want to say in advance, don't get your hopes up, because this guy doesn't make much sense at all to me... could be some disinfo, or just some professor who thinks he can outsmart the rest of the fuckers.....?

Hopefully the next time you will read the ENTIRE message instead of jumping words, will make things a lot easier

Oh, by all means I read your statement first, then went out to check the link. Sometimes in these articles there is a hidden meaning or information missed on a quick pass. I just wanted to make 100% sure I understood what was written. Like you said the Professor makes little sense but the conversations we all had after that was worth it. I think we all blew off what he wrote as just him getting his 15 minutes of fame and went from there.

If you come up with any more insights, please post them. Maybe some day this will be figured out. Thanks, Deuem :cheers: