Anyone had their Gallbladder Removed?

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PostWed Aug 22, 2012 5:45 pm » by domdabears


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You're gonna be one of those annoying picky eaters, because of it.

Say good bye to good food and alcohol.

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...i haven't had to have any kind of modified diet...but i don't drink much alchohol anymore (or less) :mrgreen:


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Oh. I just know that the girl couldn't eat any fried food or drink any hard alcohol.

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PostWed Aug 22, 2012 5:48 pm » by The57ironman


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....i wouldn't eat much fried food if you paid me... :shock:


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PostWed Aug 22, 2012 6:09 pm » by -Marduk-


Sad to hear that Boss.

My ex-girlfriend got a liver transplantation and her gallblatter removed 2 years ago. If you want i'll ask her about her condition after surgery.
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PostWed Aug 22, 2012 6:10 pm » by Spock


Thanks M. I'll catch ya on skype tonight.
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PostWed Aug 22, 2012 6:20 pm » by -Marduk-


Spock wrote:Thanks M. I'll catch ya on skype tonight.

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PostWed Aug 22, 2012 11:49 pm » by Alexrubic


Spock wrote:Alex, I haven't seen you in a long time, welcome back!

Thanks. I've been popping by from time to time but have not been moved to post much!

Spock wrote:In general Alex, I have mostly cut out processed foods, white breads, starches...

Everybody would benefit from doing just this much.

Spock wrote:...milk, and very rarely eat red meat (a few times in the past year).

This is not necessarily of so much benefit! Milk, if you are lactose or casein intolerant, may need to be excluded (or change to A2 beta-casein sources rather than A1, if casein intolerant and find lactose-free dairy or take a lactase supplement, if lactose intolerant).

There is absolutely nothing intrinsically unhealthy about red meat - sensationalist headlines and poorly conducted observational studies have done meat-eating and human health a great disservice! Obviously the CAFO-raised meat you get in North America is not as good as the largely pastured stuff we get in the UK/EU but grass-fed/pastured is available if you can afford the extra cost.

Spock wrote:I drink fresh green vegetable juice (hence the juice weasel avatar) that I make 2 times a week and freeze, thaw each day, which I specifically asked the doctor about and she said it was okay to continue that even with the bad gallbladder.

This is pretty much what I expected - this is pretty popular on this forum and people seem to lap it up; figuratively and literally! Medical practitioners, unfortunately, are pretty much clueless when it comes to nutrition, so I would take anything they say on the topic with a large pinch of salt!

Spock wrote:One thing I do drink a good bit of is Almond Milk (unsweetened). I eat it with cereal (Kashi) as well as make smoothies with it.

Almonds are a source of the omega-6 fatty acid linoleic acid. Most people eating the typical SAD have an omega-6 to omega-3 ratio horribly skewed toward omega-6 due to these types of food choices.

Linoleic acid is probably not even the really essential omega-6 fatty acid anyway. In fact, linoleic acid was given as an anti-rejection treatment in the very early days of organ transplantation but it was soon discovered that it caused a significant increase in the risk of developing cancerous tumours! With the advent of modern anti-rejection pahamaceutical drugs, the use of linoleic acid was quickly discontinued.

Cereals, even whole unrefined ones, are also not really very healthy. With any grain there is a paradox.

Whole grains, including the germ and the bran, contain most of the anti-nutrients that bind with any minerals present and prevent their absorption. Refined grains have these anti-nutrients removed with the bran and germ during milling but any naturally occurring minerals and vitamins usually go along with them, so you end up with 'fortified' cereals; usually using cheap synthetic versions of the vitamins and minerals that were lost. Either way, grains are nutritionally poor.

Spock wrote:To be honest, I have had the attacks 6 times in the last 3 months (4 of them in the past week), but I have had them occurred a couple of times in the past 20 years, which I always thought was just a wicked case of gas. When I finally decided to go to Urgent Care last week, I was still a bit embarrassed thinking they were just going to say it was gas, but I am so happy I did.

I am anxious to read what you suspect however, as I have wondered if there was a sort of (toxic) level of Almond Milk or vegetables I could ingest. (The juice I make is based with Kale and Spinach, other greens too but mostly those, mixed with apple and lemon and a little ginger root).

The thing is that the gall-bladder serves a vital function. It stores bile. Bile is synthesied in the liver from cholesterol and stored in the gall-bladder. When we eat any food containing fat, the gall-bladder releases some of this bile into the digestive system in order to emulsify the fats so they can be properly digested and assimilated.

If people follow the hopelessly wrong-headed mainstream nutritional advice of eating a low fat diet, they have little need to use bile in the digestive process, so it sits unused in the gall-bladder and becomes more and more concentrated. This can lead to the cholesterol salts 'settling out' of solution and forming gall stones. When a person so afflicted does eat any appreciable amount of fat, the gall-bladder is activiated but cannot release the bile because of the obstruction caused by the stones and you get pain (either directly, from the gall-bladder and blocked bile ducts, or indirectly due to the undigested fats, which may lead to symptoms associated with excess 'gas'). Of course, the fat consumed takes the blame and people are advised to avoid eating it and the cycle begins again until the gall-bladder becomes useless, a health hazard and has to be removed!

I don't know whether a high vegetable diet would negatively affect the gall-bladder specifically (other than a high vegetable or vegetarian diet tends to be low fat) but the only case of kidney stones I ever suffered was when I was on a raw vegan diet. Vegetables contain a high level of oxalates and oxalate can precipitate out into stones.

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PostWed Aug 22, 2012 11:59 pm » by Spock


Wow, that's some great info! Thanks for that. I really just pieced my own diet together finding foods I enjoyed. Seeing as now my GB is shot and coming out Friday morning, any suggestions for the future? As of now, I have no choice but to eat extremely low fat and bland foods, unless I wish to suffer the consequences.
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PostThu Aug 23, 2012 12:18 am » by Constabul


Best of luck spock. I wouldn't worry to much over it. Likely will get more use out of your juice weasel.
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PostThu Aug 23, 2012 1:14 am » by Cornbread714


Good luck, Spock, but doubt you'll need much. You're taking good care of yourself and this sounds pretty routine and relatively minor (as far as losing body parts goes). :alien51:

It sure sucks getting old, though, don't it? I can certainly relate, as you know...

Speedy recovery!

Good to see you posting, Alex, and that's some good-sounding advice.

Are you a nutritionist or an MD, or something? It seems as if you really know what you're talking about, and from the little I know, I tend to agree with all of what you said.

Good thread.
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PostThu Aug 23, 2012 1:20 am » by 99socks


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