concrete wrote:
I don't get it CB.
A heat wave is blamed on 'global warming'. The northern hemisphere is experiencing a rather cold snap, and it's called weather? Honestly. It can't work both ways.
Well, I just ran across that and thought I'd throw it into the mix.
But here are my real views if you're interested:
1) OK, it's pretty obvious there's been some data spin, at the very least, by some scientists. It's wrong, and it pisses me off. It clouds the whole debate (no pun intended) while undermining the scientific process. I've had to really re-evaluate my position on the issue and not just because of these leaked emails. It seems that scientists have also been pressured and used by the PTB.
2) It's also obvious that much of the debate is political, and that yes, there does appear to be an "agenda" (or agendas, plural) besides saving the planet, which makes the science aspect even more questionable.
However,
I think it's dangerous to dismiss the possibility that there are negative effects of our polluting and, yes, carbon-spewing.
It does seem that with my own eyes (like those poor bastards in Australia) I have seen radical changes in climate in the 5 decades I've been alive and I trust my own conclusions more than any scientific study or political agenda.
Sure, it could be natural cycles.
But can any politician, scientist, or anyone tell me for SURE whether it's man-made or not?
I don't think so.
So it seems we are back at square one. It does seem the carbon-trading scheme is a useless idea, at best...
And now it's hard to believe ANY scientist or pundit on either side of the debate.I just hope a new understanding can come out of all this mess, and I hope we stop polluting and consuming so much, even if "climate change" is a false alarm ...