Aren't they cute?

[Newssniffer Profile]

Not entirely accurate though.

IronMans post, though showing children with guns, does not reflect the hate and very real conflict involved in the Israeli/Palestinian affair.

Guns are tools that people should learn to use and respect at a young age, to grow up with a healthy fear of them. The intent behind the Palestinian children pics and the Jews signing bombs is an entirely different can of worms.

with all respect i have for you spock
i think this is a delusion.

americans are just as involved in the conflicts as both of these sides.

thoughts create things.

So you're saying that this...



Sends the same message and has the same root as...



and that my thought process is delusional.

Fascinating.

It's delusional when you make your assumptions based on Fashion. Either way, adults are placing guns in the hands of kids and you think this is a race issue.

[Spock Profile]

and that my thought process is delusional.

Fascinating.

It's delusional when you make your assumptions based on Fashion. Either way, adults are placing guns in the hands of kids and you think this is a race issue.

What? Left field. That came from waaaaaaaaaay out in left field.

Are you a fucking moron or something?

[Towelie Profile]

Most kids like to dress up and play soldier(i used to do it), but its a whole different story getting children to write personal messages on bombs that will be used to kill people......thats just so very wrong.

[Samuelthemule Profile Website]

no i'm saying reality is: toy guns or real guns, to children they are the same.

we the adults are the ones who are to blame.

in the mind of a child, fires are fires.

there is no division between work and play, fiction and non fiction.

all is one.

if you teach them, killing is good, it doesn't matter if it's with plastic or plastic-explosives, the message is the same, all that's left out is acting on it. children are so receptive to thoughts.
if you show them murder, exploitation, rape and so on, on a tv, they are likely to carry it out in real life.

one should not encourage the insanity of mass culture, in any way shape or form: http://whale.to/b/sexualizing_children.html

keep guns & sex away from kids.

some become quite bloodthirsty, and the only reason they do not murder is because they have never nor will ever be the 1st to do something, they simply follow the crowd.

if you cannot see the interconnection between the manipulation and promotion of sex, drugs, violence, yes i do call that delusional.

First it takes place in the imagination, then in the real world.

It's the same with all subjects.



i bet a lot of murders, serial killers, army men and so on,
first saw it on tv, and then did it.
just like they first played with dolls, toy guns, and then with real ones.

Why not play with goemetry, art, animals? what's wrong with those?

oh i know, our overlords don't want that, they hate beauty.

[Samuelthemule Profile Website]

Most kids like to dress up and play soldier(i used to do it), but its a whole different story getting children to write personal messages on bombs that will be used to kill people......thats just so very wrong.

wrong, one leads to the other.
it's all connected.

seeing, thinking about, liking and not opposing murder are one step away from doing it.

[Spock Profile]

no i'm saying reality is: toy guns or real guns, to children they are the same.

we the adults are the ones who are to blame.

in the mind of a child, fires are fires.

Unequivocally disagree with you. It's one thing to go outside and blast your friends with a water cannon, and another thing to be part of a child army at a war rally geared at creating homocide bombers and racial hatred.


there is no division between work and play, fiction and non fiction.

all is one.

To a child, anything they don't wish to do is "work" and play is "play". Children know the difference in being made to clean their room and barraging friends with water balloons in the yard. Do you think the child wishes for their friends to be dead after a water balloon fight? Now, ask a Palestinian of they wish to kill a Jew.

if you teach them, killing is good, it doesn't matter if it's with plastic or plastic-explosives, the message is the same, all that's left out is acting on it. children are so receptive to thoughts.

Who is teaching their children that killing is good by allowing them to play cowboys and indians" On the other hand, Palestinians are teaching they youths at a very early age that Jews are swine and should be killed. That anger spills over into the Jewish community where you see their children signing bombs.

if you show them murder, exploitation, rape and so on, on a tv, they are likely to carry it out in real life.

What does that have to do with a Nerf or wooden laser gun, teaching a youngster gun safety, proper use of a fire arm, and how to hunt?

On the other hand, in the middle east, they are teaching that to hunt and kill humans is an honor worth of praise and adoration.

I think your way too idealistic in your views and it may look good on paper, but it does not translate over into the real world.

[Towelie Profile]

Most kids like to dress up and play soldier(i used to do it), but its a whole different story getting children to write personal messages on bombs that will be used to kill people......thats just so very wrong.

wrong, one leads to the other.
it's all connected.

seeing, thinking about, liking and not opposing murder are one step away from doing it.

Children playing soldiers are not one step away from murder, at no point did i ever even think about murdering someone in all of those times i played soldier with my friends, one does not lead to another and i can say that from personal experience.

*If one person is prepared to kill another you can be certain that they didnt get this willingness from playing with a toy, it came from what they were taught by there parents(role models)........Our reference as to what is right comes from what we are taught and children get taught primarily from there parents. I base my decisions on what i know from real world lessons and experience.....not the games i played as a child.

[Samuelthemule Profile Website]

of course i'm idealistic, maybe it is true what you say: too much so, but i'd rather keep my ideals than submit.
whether it translates or not, is hard to tell.

can you answer these questions please spock:

what would be more beneficial for peace: for the children of a country to learn the ways of peace, or for them to learn the ways of war?

does playing with toy guns, seeing violence on television, playing violent games, hearing about sex, rape, degredation, killing and murder, wars and torment and so on, does it, on average, elevate the individual to a peaceful state of mind, or does it corrupt them also?

does going through a simulation of "cowboys and indians" i.e us. vs. them; killing / warfare result in a peaceful and loving atmosphere in the mind of a child, or a warlike one?

Children playing soldiers are not one step away from murder, at no point did i ever even think about murdering someone in all of those times i played soldier with my friends, one does not lead to another and i can say that from personal experience.

an exception does not disprove a rule: poll the military and find out how many of them played as you did.

war is in your CULT ure.

the wars have to stop.

editted to respond to your edit: children are given games to play by whom?
is it not their parents?

[Govtslave Profile]

it's obvious that the children in these photos are drinking non-fluoridated water. I'll bet their teeth are rotting as well.......................

[Spock Profile]

Sam, I'm sitting in a room right now with a puppy chiguagua and a puppy yellow lab.

Unless they are sleeping, they are going at each other, wrestling, playing, tugging on a toy, etc., until they collapse in exhaustion cuddling with each other. This goes on everyday. They spend every waking moment of their lives with each other, mostly wrapped in a perpetual wrestling match.

If something were to happen to one, the other would probably die of a broken heart. Now idealistically, I can translate that over to children as well, saying, it happens in nature and it looks cute to read about. But we know that real world interaction is much different and diversified.

Some children are taught violence, yes. Others are taught healthy competition. Boys, by nature, are competitive. The losing team of a basketball game are not lined up and shot.

Violent video games do play a major role in desensitizing children and adolescence to human suffering. Extreme graphic displays of bloodshed for points is not something a responsible parent would allow their children to participate in. Likewise, a responsible parent would not allow their child or adolescent to watch pornography.

And, again, it would be idealistic to believe that cops and robbers, cowboys and indians, how to hunt, and gun safety has the same psychologic effects as extreme violent video games and pornography. They simply do not.