Asteroid Vesta? The Game Changer!

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PostSat Jul 23, 2011 12:32 pm » by Truthbringer


So what is the story on Vesta? Richard C. Hoagland – an American author and a proponent of various conspiracy theories about NASA, lost alien civilizations on the Moon and on Mars and other related topics – stated that the asteroid Vesta could be the real game changer in terms of disclosure when appeared on coast to coast AM on the 20th of july. Allegedly Vesta hold an extraordinary geometry, which hints to a former extra-terrestrial presence on this asteroid. He stated that this may be the remnants of a “type 2 civilization”.

Look what some people from NASA said!
“I don’t think Vesta should be called an asteroid,” said Tom McCord, a Dawn co-investigator based at the Bear Fight Institute, Winthrop, Wash. “Not only is Vesta so much larger, but it’s an evolved object, unlike most things we call asteroids.” Other space rocks have collided with Vesta and knocked off bits of it. Those became debris in the asteroid belt known as Vestoids, and even hundreds of meteorites that have ended up on Earth. As a result, Vesta is a time capsule from that earlier era. “Dawn’s ion thrusters are gently carrying us toward Vesta, and the spacecraft is getting ready for its big year of exploration,” said Marc Rayman, Dawn’s chief engineer at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. “We have designed our mission to get the most out of this opportunity to reveal the exciting secrets of this uncharted, exotic world.”


Here is a picture that shows a watch tower of some kind?
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Read the whole story on http://recognizereality.com/ufos-aliens ... me-changer don't want to be copying the whole article!

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PostSat Jul 23, 2011 12:49 pm » by Arella


Type 1, 2, & 3 Civilizations


Type I – this civilization harnesses the energy output of an entire planet.

Type II – this civilization harnesses the energy output of a star, and generates about 10 billion times the energy output of a Type I civilization.

Type III – this civilization harnesses the energy output of a galaxy, or about 10 billion time the energy output of a Type II civilization.


A Type I civilization would be able to manipulate truly planetary energies. They might, for example, control or modify their weather. They would have the power to manipulate planetary phenomena, such as hurricanes, which can release the energy of hundreds of hydrogen bombs. Perhaps volcanoes or even earthquakes may be altered by such a civilization.


A Type II civilization may resemble the Federation of Planets seen on the TV program Star Trek (which is capable of igniting stars and has colonized a tiny fraction of the near-by stars in the galaxy). A Type II civilization might be able to manipulate the power of solar flares.


A Type III civilization may resemble the Borg, or perhaps the Empire found in the Star Wars saga. They have colonized the galaxy itself, extracting energy from hundreds of billions of stars.


By contrast, we are a Type 0 civilization, which extracts its energy from dead plants (oil and coal). Growing at the average rate of about 3% per year, however, one may calculate that our own civilization may attain Type I status in about 100-200 years, Type II status in a few thousand years, and Type III status in about 100,000 to a million years. These time scales are insignificant when compared with the universe itself.


On this scale, one may now rank the different propulsion systems available to different types of civilizations:

Type 0
Chemical rockets
Ionic engines
Fission power
EM propulsion (rail guns)

Type I
Ram-jet fusion engines
Photonic drive

Type II
Antimatter drive
Von Neumann nano probes

Type III
Planck energy propulsion


It's encouraging to know that we will reach Type 1 within one hundred years, but how about Type 2? Michio Kaku stated that it would take several thousands of years. However, given our recent rapid developments in science and technology, I think that we will reach Type 2 status within 1,000 years.

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PostSat Jul 23, 2011 2:02 pm » by Frutty


truthbringer wrote:Here is a picture that shows a watch tower of some kind?
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That image can't possibly represent Vesta. This is what Vesta looks like from earth, in an alleged sequence by The Super Hubble Telescope


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You will readily notice that

a. Vesta is a very bright object
b. Vesta is extremely irregular
c. Vesta does not look like a dull piece of mud
d. Vesta revolves around its axis extremely fast
e. No human made probe could be able to rotate about that object in a stable orbit
f. Vesta is not black and white

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PostSat Jul 23, 2011 3:17 pm » by Truthbringer


Sorry to spoil your party.

But this is vesta. The original image is this hence it represents it.

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And what is the source? http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/index.asp

The folks at RecognizeReality just enhanced it with brightness

Dawn took this image while it was orbiting around Vesta, traveling from the day side to the night side. The large structure near the south pole that showed up so prominently in previous images is visible in the center of the illuminated surface. Compared to other images, more of the surface beneath the spacecraft is in the shadow of night. Vesta turns on its axis once very five hours and 20 minutes.

Dawn entered orbit around Vesta on July 15, 2011, and will spend a year orbiting the body. Next stop on its itinerary will be an encounter with the dwarf planet Ceres.

The Dawn mission to Vesta and Ceres is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, for NASA. The University of California, Los Angeles, is responsible for overall Dawn mission science. The Dawn framing cameras have been developed and built under the leadership of the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research, Katlenburg-Lindau, Germany, with significant contributions by DLR German Aerospace Center, Institute of Planetary Research, Berlin, and in coordination with the Institute of Computer and Communication Network Engineering, Braunschweig. The Framing Camera project is funded by the Max Planck Society, DLR, and NASA/JPL.


Well they got a probe in its orbit and taking pictures already. The funny thing being though, THEY RELEAS ONE PICUTRE EACH WEEK. Why not update it with a live stream lik the SOHO stuff? This will raise questions.

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PostSat Jul 23, 2011 3:22 pm » by Frutty


truthbringer wrote:Sorry to spoil your party.

But this is vesta. The original image is this hence it represents it.

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That source has no serious meaning to me

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PostSat Jul 23, 2011 4:18 pm » by Truthbringer


Nasa has been editing stuff for quite some time but I have my reasons to believe these are real images.

Plus these statements from Nasa employees are quite debunking that shape shifting skills thread in my opinion. You guys still talking asteroids and NASA seeing it as some protoplanet in its early stages.

“I don’t think Vesta should be called an asteroid,” said Tom McCord, a Dawn co-investigator based at the Bear Fight Institute, Winthrop, Wash. “Not only is Vesta so much larger, but it’s an evolved object, unlike most things we call asteroids.” Other space rocks have collided with Vesta and knocked off bits of it. Those became debris in the asteroid belt known as Vestoids, and even hundreds of meteorites that have ended up on Earth. As a result, Vesta is a time capsule from that earlier era. “Dawn’s ion thrusters are gently carrying us toward Vesta, and the spacecraft is getting ready for its big year of exploration,” said Marc Rayman, Dawn’s chief engineer at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. “We have designed our mission to get the most out of this opportunity to reveal the exciting secrets of this uncharted, exotic world.”



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