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PostSun Jun 27, 2010 12:52 am » by Telos61


cee420 wrote:
telos61 wrote:other dimensions are not really out there.... but only state of mind and mind has different levels of awareness.


Hey.

Thou i agree with you on that "astral projection" or "astral light" is a bad name for the phenomena cause it is a mental phenomena...

But to say that other dimensions of this cosmos aren't there ..i don't agree on.

Let's say that people are contacted with spirits ..this would mean that these spirits can some how see these people they are contacting, other wise, how could they find them!?
This means there is this other dimension, atleast one, that exists in the same space-time frame (cosmos) as our so called "physical" dimension.

If you believe the so called "spirit world" exists, then it has to exist some where. And it is not on this dimension, so it has to be on another dimension..

Since you have only been on this dimension, i don't think you can factually state that "other dimensions are not out there".

And it can be that there is another dimension(s) outside this multidimensional cosmos's space-time frame ..it might be the one where the creator of this cosmos exists ..but we all, including the Creator exist inside this multidimensional universe (of everything there is)

..so this would meen, that "God" doesn't necissarily live in the "spirit world" from where these spirits communicate to these "mediums". ..which would give one explaination to why the cosmography of this solar system is all wrong in ancient spiritual texts.

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very interesting post and thank you...... very few respond to me with such good unput.. its quite refreshing.... The only difference i have with you is this........ beings in other dimensions have the ability to lower and raise their vibrations. In a sense they are changing there conscious awareness and if you are advanced enough to raise yours and your vibrations high enough then you can see them and interact with them. there are still alot of people who have not raised their vibrations through meditation and the UFO experience is invisible to them.
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PostSun Jun 27, 2010 10:04 pm » by Cee420


telos61 wrote: ..beings in other dimensions have the ability to lower and raise their vibrations. In a sense they are changing there conscious awareness and if you are advanced enough to raise yours and your vibrations high enough then you can see them and interact with them. there are still alot of people who have not raised their vibrations through meditation and the UFO experience is invisible to them.



Communicating to spirits isn't up to any type "vibrations", bro ..they, the spirit-humans can see us somehow (i don't know how it works on the "otherside", i can just speculate like everyone else on "this side") and contact us telepathically if they so choose to ..alot of people are contacted and harrased by discarnate humanspirits with out even being spiritual in anyway.

This talk of "raising your vibrations" is mostly just spiritual jargon many spiritual teachings pass on with out much thinking about these things ..and reality is much more simpler than, say, buddhist theories on these things.
All these New Age theories on DNA change and vibration is mostly myths ..sure, DNA changes, but this is just evolution, and ancestor spirits have been communicating back to the "living" for over 10 000 years now, so how could thge DNA change to somethig (people becoming more spirit receptive), when our DNA has been like this for thousands of years now ..see what i mean

Please don't take this as i'm puting you down, bro ..these are complex issues because of the ton spiritual jargon out there ..and the buddhists and eastern religious gurus aren't helping much either ..most of them are quite out of it.

It's not that good to set your mind on these things, but take your time and use clear thinking on these various theories ..it's also good to read about religious believes in shamanistic times, and not only this modern jive ..when you know about the whole spiritual history of humanity, then it's much easier to look at these various theories ..and i don't mean myths, i mean actual information
See, in the ancient shamanistic times people were communicating to human spirits, but now in the modern spirituality it's all just gods and aliens and angels ..isn't that quite strange?! ..to me this says "the spirits might be bull shittin alot of people using telepathy" ..i believe the spirts are actually discarnate humans, and not gods or angels or demons.

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PostSun Jun 27, 2010 10:39 pm » by Boondox681


think of time as if it was 'vertical' instead of 'linear'
imagine you take 100 sheets of paper and poke them thru a 10 in vertical spike and 'fan' or space them somewhat evenly.everybody with me?
that is you.your soul.when you take a peek at a page 'below' you,we call it a past life experience.
when we peek 'above' we call it projection,seeing,deja vu and most common in dreams.
we all have this ability,but obviously,some more than others
and don't forget...this is all 'happening' at the same 'time'
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PostSun Jun 27, 2010 10:52 pm » by Telos61


the universe is made up of frequency...... everything in reality is composed of vibration. and they all vary in intensity based the speed of the electrons within the electromagnetic spectrum..

there are vibratory worlds that we cannot see because they are oscillating at a different frequency. OUr 5 objective faculties cannot pick them up....... but if you as a living thinking being is able to raise your frequency and exist in a higher consciousness then you can see the things that are invisible.... and that goes for the other way around.... ET's can lower there frequency at will and that is why people see there craft.... so called dead people can lower there vibrations as well....

all is thought... all is consciousness... all is vibration....
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PostSun Jun 27, 2010 11:02 pm » by Boondox681


yes it is .have you ever checked out william henry-stargate 2012?
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PostMon Jun 28, 2010 12:03 am » by Telos61


NO IS THERE A VID????
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