banned from the bible/infancy of jesus

Wed May 19, 2010 4:06 am » by **Emeraldtruth**

Often wondered about Jesus before his temple pharisee experience at age 12. Fascinating read dank1. Appears from this Jesus was a lil bastard til taught compassion by humans. Means we all can improve too on one hand I guess. On the other, his true father (God, not Joseph) must be a right f**k that he didn't mind him killing off humans in the process of his learning.

Wed May 19, 2010 4:14 am » by **Dank1**

emeraldtruth wrote:Often wondered about Jesus before his temple pharisee experience at age 12. Fascinating read dank1. Appears from this Jesus was a lil bastard til taught compassion by humans. Means we all can improve too on one hand I guess. On the other, his true father (God, not Joseph) must be a right f**k that he didn't mind him killing off humans in the process of his learning.

but wait, god loved us more than his angles and only begotten son so why didnt god smite his son or at least give him a good yelling at? :think:

Wed May 19, 2010 4:18 am » by **Drbunny**

Thank You...this is interesting.

:sunny:

Wed May 19, 2010 1:01 pm » by **Proto**

allreadydead wrote:What else has been 'banned or omitted' from the Bible?
Why were these text's so 'banned or omitted'?

there were more written scriptures than those that ended up in the collection of books named The Bible. There are various reasons why many books were rejected and each book has a
unique story both in terms of context and in terms of its own history. Here are five books that were "banned from the Bible" in a manner of speaking.

The Book of Enoch

The Book of Enoch does not appear in the English Bible, but it does appear in the Ethiopian Orthodox Church Canon. This book describes the fall of a band of angels at first and then progresses into visions and dreams the author experienced when being taken up to heaven on multiple occasions. The Book of Enoch has been ignored for much of its existence due to the content, especially the concept that angels could turn their back on God.

The Apocalypse of Moses

This book is sometimes referred to as The Book of Adam and Eve as well. Instead of devoting limited space to Adam and Eve as Genesis does, this book actually goes into the details surrounding Adam and Eve and their fall from grace as well as their life afterwards. These books have never been included in the Bible because there is no certainty surrounding their creation or whether or not they were inspired books.

The Gospel of Mary

The Gospel of Mary does not appear in the Bible largely for the same reason. While there is a ballpark estimation on when the book was written, scholars remain uncertain about which Mary was supposed to be the author though sensational books like The Da Vinci Code have led many to believe it is by Mary Magdalene. The Gospel of Mary contains dialogue about the soul of man and what we are made of spiritually and the debate over this among early followers.

The Gospel of Thomas
a chronicle of the early life of Jesus Christ and describes childhood circumstances and miracles performed at an early age by the Savior. In this book Jesus does not appear as the Lamb without
sin or the Sacrifice for mankind - he is a bad child. This book was omitted from the Bible due to lack of belief in it. The books of the current Bible are considered to be Divinely Inspired, and the Gospel of Thomas follows a pattern that many pagan myths did which made it incompatible with the Christian material of the Gospel, especially given the contradictory nature of the accounts presented when compared with the Jesus presented in all of the other books - even other apocryphal books.

The Gospel of Judas

Much has been made of the "Gospel of Judas" in recent years. This Gospel has been dated as possibly reaching back to a couple of hundred years after Christ's death, but many remain skeptical. This book portrays Judas as an obedient servant of Christ instead of as a man who betrayed Jesus. The book of Judas would not be included in future Bibles because it contradicts scripture that is considered Divinely Inspired by God. The end of the Bible in Revelations clearly states that the Bible was to be added to no more by man.

Such a firm directive is not going to be broken for the Gospel of Judas or any of the other "banned books" of the Bible - at least not in mainstream publication.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... tml?cat=34

fuller list of books banned from the new testament :

1. Pseudo-Jesus apocrypha

1.1 The Epistles of Jesus to Abgarus
2. Pseudo-apostolic (general) apocrypha

2.1 Teachings of the Twelve Apostles (Didache)
2.2 Epistle of the Apostles
3. Pseudo-apostolic (specific - by Apostle) apocrypha
3.1 - Andrew -

3.1.1 Acts of Andrew
3.1.2 Acts of Andrew and Matthias*
3.2 - Barnabas -

3.2.1 Acts of Barnabas*
3.2.2 Epistle of Barnabas
3.2.3 Gospel of Barnabas
3.3 - Bartholomew -

3.3.1 Gospel of Bartholomew
3.3.2 Martyrdom of Bartholomew*
3.4 - James -

3.4.1 Apocryphon of James
3.4.2 Book of James (protevangelium)
3.4.3 First Apocalypse of James
3.4.4 Second Apocalypse of James
3.5 - John -

3.5.1 Acts of John
3.5.2 Acts of John the Theologian*
3.5.3 Apocryphon of John (long version)
3.5.4 Book of John the Evangelist
3.5.5 Revelation of John the Theologian*
3.6 - Mark -

3.6.1 Secret Gospel of Mark
3.7 - Matthew -

3.7.1 Acts and Martyrdom of St. Matthew the Apostle*
3.7.2 The Martyrdom of Matthew
3.8 - Nicodemus -

3.8.1 Gospel (Acts) of Nicodemus (aka The Acts of Pontius Pilate)
3.9 - Peter -

3.9.1 Acts of Peter
3.9.2 Acts of Peter and Andrew
3.9.3 Apocalypse of Peter - version 1
3.9.4 Apocalypse of Peter - version 2
3.9.5 Gospel of Peter
3.9.6 Letter of Peter to Philip
3.10 - Philip -

3.10.1 Acts of Philip
3.10.2 Gospel of Philip
3.11 - Thaddeus -

3.11.1 Acts of Thaddeus (Epistles of Pontius Pilate)*
3.11.2 Teaching of Thaddeus
3.12 - Thomas -

3.12.1 Acts of Thomas
3.12.2 Apocalypse of Thomas
3.12.3 Book of Thomas the Contender
3.12.4 Consumation of Thomas
3.12.5 Gospel of Thomas
4. Pseudo-Pauline apocrypha

4.1 3 Corinthians
4.2 Acts 29
4.3 Acts of Paul
4.4 Acts of Paul and Thecla
4.5 Acts of Peter and Paul*
4.6 Acts of Xanthippe and Polyxena
4.7 Apocalypse of Paul
4.8 Apocalypse of Paul - other version
4.9 Epistle to the Laodiceans
4.10 Revelation of Paul*
4.11 Paul and Seneca
5. Infancy Gospels apocrypha

5.1 Arabic Infancy Gospel
5.2 First Infancy Gospel of Jesus Christ
5.3 Infancy Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew
5.4 Infancy Gospel of Thomas - Greek A
5.5 Infancy Gospel of Thomas - Greek B
5.6 Infancy Gospel of Thomas - Latin
6. Relatives of Jesus apocrypha

6.1 Gospel of Mary
6.2 Gospel of the Nativity of Mary
6.3 Book of John concerning the dormition of Mary (transitus mariæ)*
6.4 History of Joseph the Carpenter*
6.5 Narrative of Joseph of Arimathaea
7. Sub-canonical (disputed canon) apocrypha

7.1 Shepherd of Hermas
7.2 II Clement
7.3 Diatession
7.4 Gospel of the Lord (Marcion)
8. Other significant Epistles and pseudomynous writings and apocrypha

8.1 I Clement
8.2 Avenging of the Saviour
8,3 Epistles of Pontius Pilate
8.4 Letter of Aristeas
8.5 Sentences of the Sextus
8.6 Alexandrians
8.7 Revelations of Stephen
8.8 Muratonian Canon (fragment)
9. Fragments of lost apocryphal books

9.1 Gospel of the Ebionites
9.2 Gospel of the Egyptians
9.3 Egerton Gospel (Egerton Papyrus 2)*
9.4 Gospel of the Hebrews
9.5 Traditions of Mattias
9.6 Gospel of the Nazaraeans
9.7 Preaching of Peter
10. Apostolic Constitutions (Didascalia Apostolorum)

10.1 Book 1
10.2 Book 2
10.3 Book 3
10.4 Book 4
10.5 Book 5
10.6 Book 6
10.7 Book 7
10.8 Book 8
11. Psuedo-Sibylline Oracles

11.0 Preface
11.1 Chapter I
11.2 Chapter II
11.3 Chapter III
11.4 Chapter IV
11.5 Chapter V
11.6 Chapter VI
11.7 Chapter VII
11.8 Chapter VIII
11.9 Chapter XI
11.10 Chapter XII
11.11 Chapter XIII
11.12 Chapter XIV
11.13 Appendices - Fragments

http://www.interfaith.org/christianity/apocrypha/

allreadydead wrote:Who made the decision to 'ban or omit' these text's?
and how early in the development of the Christian faith was this done?

Pope Damasus in 382 A.D. prompted by the Council of Rome, wrote a decree listing the 73 Old and New Testament books of the Bible.

At the Council of Hippo, in North Africa, 393 A.D. the same 73 Books of the Old and New Testament were approved or canonized.

Again at the the Council of Carthage, (North Africa) 397 A.D. approved the same 73 books of sacred scripture that the Catholic Church uses today.

Finally, in 405 A.D. Pope St. Innocent I approved the same 73 books of the canon and closed the canon of the Bible.

Up until the close of the canon there was much debate among faithful Catholics. That is probably why it took four official decisions to close the canon: Two Councils and Two papal decisions.

http://bfhu.wordpress.com/2007/03/20/wh ... the-bible/

Wed May 19, 2010 1:05 pm » by **Allreadydead**

@proto - thanks!, that was one of the best answers I have ever received to any of my posts, and it contained real effort - Thank you again!

Ps. it also answered my questions!!