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PostSat Feb 01, 2014 3:08 am » by RATRODROB


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The belief about BIG CATS roaming the Australian country side has been a hot topic for decades.

These elusive beasts have been reported mainly around the south and south east of Australia and are still being reported to this day.

most sightings are reported as very large cats resembling pumas, cougars and panthers.

Some believe that American service men brought cougars to Australia during WW2 (supposedly as mascots) and before leaving, they turned them loose in the bush, but cougars arnt, generally speaking, malonistic, so that doesn't really explain the hundreds of sightings of large BLACK cats, and the idea of US soldiers releasing cougars into our bush is largely just myth, I havnt seen any absolute evidence that this actually occurred.
Others say that a hundred yrs ago, circus animals escaped into the bush and that panthers were amongst them, ive heard about pumas or panthers supposedly escaping a lion park aswell.

how ever they got here, they are here, how do I know, ive seen one. Go to my thread "RRR I CANT BE FCKD TYPING THREAD" to hear about my encounter.

Reports of injuries to live stock, hundreds and hundreds of cases, show signs of scratches on the hides and of shocking deadly wounds on just about every type of animal, from wombats to cattle, large kangaroos have been taken down and even our wild camels have come under attack, no animal in Australia can produce the injuries described and photographed, not dingoes or foxes.

Our extremely large crocks in the northern parts can take large animals, but that's up north and there is no comparison to a crock bite to the injuries of the animals down south.

A lot of the animals killed are eaten, sometime partially, sometimes completely, or though scavengers could be blamed for finishing off a carcass.

Here are some reports and photos for your concideration



these reports are from the web site BIG CATS VICTORIA, this is the site I tried to submit my sighting to but I got no response from them, I told them I had video evidence and gave them my ph no, never heard from them.................. :headscratch:

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Received 19/04/2009

Great site! This is so needed. Congrats. We have a small big cat section on our public forum.

I developed an interest in big cats after seeing one just south of Meredith on the 16/9/07.

Two of us were driving from Geelong to Ballarat along the Midland Highway around 6.15ish near sunset time. I noticed something leap over the road, I instantly assumed it was a fox but knew that the colouring patterns and size were completely wrong for a fox. I asked our team photographer who happened to be int he car with me if he saw it, he said yes he had, we then we saw it sitting in the grass at the side of the road. However it was no fox. The tail wasn't pointy and the body was much larger. The top of the animal which appeared multicoloured but had black bits in the hair, as it moved it seemed wavy or fluid in movement.

The tail also seemed wavy and from memory it did appear to flick slightly up. I guess it was at least half to three quarters of the width of the road lane in length.

To me it seemed like a not fully grown adult version of a big cat type animal. I am not familiar enough with the variety of cats to know which one it was, but it was definately a large cat, appearing to not be fully grown. It was no feral type cat though.

We turned the car around to get a better look (and opefully a picture) but it was gone into a paddock and out of site.

It literally lept acorss the road in front of the car and dissappeared in the time it took us to drive a very short distance to slow the car down and turn it around.

The number of reports of big cats I have heard is astounding.

We have placed a link to your site from our forum.








Received 06/07/2009


"Hi, just wanted to inform you that on monday 6th of july on the Pettitis Road near Bessiebelle south west victoria my co-worker and i spotted a large black cat with a very long tail. would be interested if you know of any other sightings in that area and would like to know if you know anything about it
if you have any questions about anything else we saw please don't hessitate to contact me ……………"









Received 04/02/2010

"Hi Simon,

I read the recent article about the sightings of big cats in the otways. Always been a sceptic about these kind of things but in January 2006 we too saw a big black cat. Myself and partner were driving on a dirt track out the back of Lavers Hill (otways) near my Aunties residence when we noticed a big black cat on the road in front of us. It took off up the embankment as we approached in the car. It was about the size of our 2 year old labrador. Anyway I'm happy to give you the exact locations if you keep a record of sightings.

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Received 23/08/2009

"I was out the front of my house in (...) Street Winchelsea on 17 of August
at 10-45 09 when the dogs went mad i looket up and there was a large Puma
down at the creek it went from there to rail way line i went for my camera
and had a good look but no sine of the big cat."










Received 24/07/2009

"Hi, big black cat Seen twice on the same day and almost hit by car the catwas the size of a large wrottweiler.

sighted at spring hill glenlyon vic 1998"











Received 18062009

"last friday 12june while shooting on a friends farm at princetown my nephew came face to face with "The Panther" had a gun but ran from it in shock my nieces boyfriend also saw it 1 or 2 months earlier driving in the same area it was just on dusk (didnt need spotlight) when i saw it. Our family have been in the area for more than 40 years and other family members have seen or have had reports from others of seeing these cats in the local area my phone no. is 52......"












Received 27/05/2009

"Been tooling websites for days, since being stopped by the sight of an amazing sleek powerful animal with big yellow eyes on the Johannes beach lookout walk on Fri 22 May 09 at appro 4.15.
I called a witness over as I wasn't expecting to see a 'panther' I walked the beach track and on the beach were large prints with a curved indentation like a narrow hook It did not fit a dog or cat print, and a bird print in my limited experience is more even. I have reported it to Rare
Fauna site and emailed the cottage I was staying at as they have calves.
A most amazing experience If you need more info my ph is ......."












Received 30/08/2009

"Hi ,just letting you know in late july about 6.45 pm coming home from Melbourne,on the Broadford road about 2kn from the golf course, I was heading to Broadford and, the other car was heading out of Broadford ,at that time I could see something on the side of the road ,but I could not make it out real good and I did not want to hit high beam as the other car was there but they hit high beam ,so I did to,and then came to a stop as this big black cat walk across the road in front of both the cars, after a few second we both drove off, I did not get out of my car and nor
did the other person, what I heard about the black cats, that they were not that long but this one was as long as the front of my car vt holden so ,I know I seen a big black cat, I told some friends 1 had heard about it and a friend who live in the mountains said they seen it about 4 years ago ,I just could not believe how close to the town it was."








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PostSat Feb 01, 2014 3:21 am » by Thebluecanary


:flop: Good stuff! Thanks!
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PostSat Feb 01, 2014 3:34 am » by RATRODROB


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http://www.australianbigcats.com/2012/11/western-australia-big-cats.html

Western Australia Big cats

Post and Photo courtesy of Darren Monks. Thank you Darren.

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Mate i've known for years (well known in WA fishing circles) sent me this report (occured mid 2011):

"While camping near a well know public dam in the Darling Scarp of WA with my two young boys (including 2 of their friends so four boys in total) decided to play in the river and have a mud fight, lots of noise and yelling so me and the kelpie dog decided to go for a wander along the river.
A still night followed with no wind and the kids all went to sleep in the tent whilst the dog and I slept in the back of the car with the boot down. The occasional roo could be heard heading off to the river for a drink but apart from that no noise at all, pin-drop quiet.
About 2.30 am the dog and I sat up as we could hear the roos busting through the fence up-river, obviously startled by something but a min later there was silence so drifted back off to sleep.
Next morning went for a walk up river to see if there are any pigs about and came across a freshly killed joey about 400 meters from camp. You have a look at the pics (see above)but this is very strange. Head, ribs on one side, heart, lungs all eaten, intestines pulled out and the kidneys eaten from the cavity. No blood and no sign of a struggle. Not a fox as the volume eaten meant it would have been a fox bigger than my kelpie to devour all that. No sign of dogs about and very clean, no fur ripped around the area. Joey was about a year old and big enough to give even a dog a run for its money if tackled.
Needless to say the next night I kept the kids close to camp and didn't sleep very well.
What did it"??
bit more context, carcass not there the late afternoon before.
def'n happened (kill/feed) overnight.human involvement almsot impossible (illegal spotlighters having to drive through and shoot near camp with alert sober dad asleep in open backed 4WD with kelpie alongside who blots at a gunshot etc).wild dogs/dinoges long gone to my knowlwedge this beef area coastal side of scarp.
plenty of foxes and pigs and possible rare young wedgie?
crows hadn't even had time to find the carcass."

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From Shane ######, former Fish/Willdflife (CALM - DEC) officer Nannup in 80's:

"Here's what I know about big black cats in WA.

I have alluded to the fact that myself and other CALM Officers have reported officially in writing to the CALM department that we have seen panther like animals in the forest with our own eyes.

Also it is not just myself and another Nannup CALM employee making such reports. Reports were coming in at the same time from Manjimup District CALM Officers of similar reports.

Myself over the 8 years I was the local Wildlife Officer for Nannup logged a few more than the 64 reports for Thylacines.

I recall one reported sighting well - a Canadian Tourist - had been driving a rented 4wd along Jacks Track on the Scott River plain east of Augusta, between the De Entrecasteaux Nat park Boundary and private property cleared for cattle grazing when he reportedly saw a large black Panther cross the track in front of him.

Being familiar with Cougar from his home country Canada - he was insistent that he knew damn well what he had seen. I found it hard not to believe him. That particular report stuck in my memory, he was eminently believable - the reason he stopped to report it at my CALM Office was that he didn't believe we had such large wild cats in this country and I was able to confirm for him, that supposedly we didn't.

In later years, I was out early one morning in winter - a clear day and a 6 am start so still almost dark.

I remember that it was number 2 logging road in a Bunnings coup at the top of the Bridgetown hill out of Nannup on the way to Bridgetown...on the northern side of the main road.

There were 4 of us (Foresters from the Nannup Office), and one of us was behind on his tree marking, for the Bunnings logging crews.

If the habitat trees and seed trees weren't marked and the Bunnings logging crew ran out of trees in the adjacent coup - they would move in and just fall everything - so 3 of us volunteered to start early and give him a hand to catch up with his tree marking ahead of the logging crews.

I had marked a few acres - as had the other 3, and it was maybe 7 or 7.30 by now clear sky day, and the 4 of us met back on the gravel logging road.

One of us walked back to the 4wd (Mike), who as it happened had his dog Cecil with him... Cess jumped up in the back of the 4wd dual cab ute, Mike hopped in and started it up - and was going to move it UP the road a bit further so when we marked the next few acres we would come back out onto the road and the ute would still be near us to get in it and go back to the office.

Just as he got to the ute, and as the dog hopped in the back - I was standing with the 2 other officers passing the time of day talking while we waited for Mike to shift the ute.

I was the only one actually watching Mike and the dog and the ute. The other 2 were facing the wrong way to see hat happened next.

I heard a chainsaw start up over the hill from us in the adjacent logging coup - the Bunnings crew had obviously just arrived for work for the day and the first faller had just started up his big Stihl chainsaw for the first tree of the day.

As I heard the noise I looked up the hill behind us that had recently been logged so you could see pretty much all the way to the ridge...and I clearly saw a BIG black panther like animal running fast down the hill over all the recently logged branches / crowns and stumps...

It honestly flowed like water over a rock as it ran.....it was so smooth and graceful over what was incredibly difficult terrain...

It ran down the slope and across the gravel logging road about 6 feet in front of the 4wd that Mike had just hopped into and was starting it up.

He saw it right in front of him - closer than me - BUT he didn't see it come all the way down from the top of the hill, - just momentarily as it ran across the road in a brief flash, whereas i saw it for maybe 100 yards or more including the road crossing.

The 2 Foresters standing with me, didn't see it at all.

Here's the weird thing, Cecil the dog LOVES to chase cats (the family pussy cat variety), but although he was in the back of the ute and had his paws up on the cab and seemed to me at least to be looking thru the rear and front windscreen of the 4wd ute gave absolutely no indication of having seen it at all.

Mike moved the ute up past us ready to mark the next trees and then walked back to the 3 of us waiting. I could see the look on his face.

I said to him - "did you just see what I just saw?" And he replied - "well yeah, bloody oath I did - if you just saw what I just saw- what did you see?"

Then the other 2 are looking at us both and asking - well what did you see?

Neither of us wanted to be the FIRST one to say - we had seen a big black panther...because the other 2 hadn't seen it, and it was de - rigour to take the Michael out of each other at work to keep up moral.... we didn't want to willingly become the next laughing stock at work for the next few weeks up the back at the stubby club.

So the two of us agreed after much, "you tell them", "no you tell them first" back n fro we agreed to blurt it out together.

"We had each seen a big black panther"...

The eyes on the other two went like saucers (then the obvious piss taking started).

At my suggestion - we took Cecil the dog along the track toward the ute to where I reckoned the big cat crossed the gravel road.

Sure enough - in the wet clay of the road - was a big cat paw print.

We tried for all we were worth to get Cecil the dog interested in this fresh new big paw print of the big cat he obviously hadn't seen... and despite our efforts he showed absolutely not the slightest bit of interest.

I knew from my reading of US hunters who shot cougar that they have small lung capacity when chased by a pack of dogs will typically go straight up the nearest tree.

I also knew we had a departmental shotgun back at the office in the gun safe and I had the keys since i was in charge of the departmental firearms.

I was hoping beyond all hope, that where the big cat crossed the road was a big swamp and that if only we could get Cecil to tree the big cat, where he had a half a chance in relatively open ground if you don't count all the swamp grass... that if he could tree the cat and a couple of us stayed with the dog and kept it up a tree - one of us could drive for the office and get the shotgun and maybe we could shoot it outta the tree to take back as proof of what we had seen.... (and then NOT be the laughing stock of our work colleagues at the stubby club for the next few weeks - so you can see the incentive was pretty high).

For reasons I will never understand, Cecil the dog - (maybe he was a LOT smarter than we ever gave him credit for) just would NOT show ANY interest at ALL in the fresh track on the road or in entering the swamp to chase this big cat that he hadn't seen with his own eyes.

There went that plan... No Cecile to tree the cat, I sure wasn't running off into the swamp to try and do it on my own...(and neither was any of the other 3 I might add).

So back to tree marking we went... and a few hours later with it all done it was back to the office and a change into dry warm clothes...and fill in the official sighting reports - both of us corroborating each others story, suddenly the powers that be had no way to be able to dismiss it.

When word got to Manjimup CALM - and head office was taking it seriously - their officers then started coming forward with similar reports also.

So,

I got the "task"of doing the research for the departmental file about how big cats come to be in our southwest forests."
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PostSat Feb 01, 2014 3:52 am » by RATRODROB


Here is a short doco on BIG CATS In western Australia, its got some interesting stuff, but I don't like the MSM sensationalism that goes with it, just watch it and ignore the BS

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PostSat Feb 01, 2014 4:00 am » by RATRODROB


Thebluecanary wrote::flop: Good stuff! Thanks!





No worries Blue, did ya catch my story about BIG CATS on my other thread "RRR BECAUSE I CANT BE FCKD TYPING THREAD", and did you read your poem on "THAT DONT FCKN RHYME" thread, waiting for you to put pen to paper about anyone here on DTV, have some fun with it Blue.





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PostSat Feb 01, 2014 4:06 am » by Thebluecanary


RATRODROB wrote:
Thebluecanary wrote::flop: Good stuff! Thanks!





No worries Blue, did ya catch my story about BIG CATS on my other thread "RRR BECAUSE I CANT BE FCKD TYPING THREAD", and did you read your poem on "THAT DONT FCKN RHYME" thread, waiting for you to put pen to paper about anyone here on DTV, have some fun with it Blue.





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I just finished watching the videos, they were cool. Haha, I missed the poetry thread, I'll have to check it out when I'm done making supper. I can't write poetry for shit, though... :D

Aren't kangaroos mean? IDK if he was pulling my leg or not, but a guy who was from NZ who used to work with me told me a kangaroo could possibly kill a person. So it would have to be something pretty fierce to kill one right? Or do dogs sometimes kill them?
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PostSat Feb 01, 2014 4:27 am » by RATRODROB


Thebluecanary wrote:
RATRODROB wrote:
Thebluecanary wrote::flop: Good stuff! Thanks!





No worries Blue, did ya catch my story about BIG CATS on my other thread "RRR BECAUSE I CANT BE FCKD TYPING THREAD", and did you read your poem on "THAT DONT FCKN RHYME" thread, waiting for you to put pen to paper about anyone here on DTV, have some fun with it Blue.





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I just finished watching the videos, they were cool. Haha, I missed the poetry thread, I'll have to check it out when I'm done making supper. I can't write poetry for shit, though... :D

Aren't kangaroos mean? IDK if he was pulling my leg or not, but a guy who was from NZ who used to work with me told me a kangaroo could possibly kill a person. So it would have to be something pretty fierce to kill one right? Or do dogs sometimes kill them?





Its rare for roos to attack humans but they are wild animals and some are huge, they also have the ability to lean back on their tales and use their hind claws to disembowel.

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Australia is famous for its wildlife, and our wildlife is famously horrible. Take the kangaroo, for example - cute bouncy herbivores with boxing talent, and the ability to lean back on their tail and rake your abdomen open with their scrotum-tearing claws.
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It doesn’t help that male kangaroos challenge other males with an upright stance and wide shoulders. Kangaroos aren’t too good at differentiating species

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Rogue roo a fearful combatant in dam attack

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Chris Rickard shows the scars of his battle with the kangaroo.

A ROGUE kangaroo put an Arthurs Creek man in hospital after he tried to stop it from drowning his dog in a farm dam.

Chris Rickard, 49, sustained deep cuts to his abdomen and face after being attacked by the kangaroo as he tried to free his dog, which was being held underwater by the animal.

He said the kangaroo lashed out as he went to the dog's aid, cutting him above the eye.

He struggled to keep his balance in the water, fending off blows from the kangaroo and holding on to his dog with the other hand.

Mr Rickard responded with an elbow to the throat and the kangaroo backed off a little, allowing him to crawl to the bank with his dog.

''If I had not ducked it would have got me on the eye,'' Mr Rickard told Channel Ten.

He said that his blue heeler had been held under the water for about 20 seconds when he raced in to free it from the kangaroo's grip.

The kangaroo then lashed out at the dog's owner.

Advanced life-support paramedics were called to the property at 9.35am.

''The 49-year-old dived into the dam and managed to free his dog but he was injured in the process,'' paramedic Michael Vosbergen said. Mr Rickard was in a stable condition in the Austin Hospital last night.
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PostSun Feb 02, 2014 5:09 am » by Thebluecanary


Wow. I thought they were cuddly….that's terrifying.
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PostSun Feb 02, 2014 11:51 am » by Eltorito


We used to live on a farm in the North Eastern Wheatbelt region of Western Australia.

Rumours about big cats have been going round for decades there.

Apparently some pumas escaped from a circus in the mid 1950’s near Merredin WA.

Hard to tell but the environment would certainly sustain any Big Cat.

We had some 15.000 head of sheep roaming the place;

if we have lost a few each month I doubt we would have noticed to be honest.

I never had problems with the wild live on the farm.

We never got closer than about 30 yards to a big red kangaroo and they would leg it.

We had an emu land on our bonnet once, but the old Holden Kingswood kept us safe. :banana:

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PostSun Feb 02, 2014 1:56 pm » by RATRODROB


Eltorito wrote:We used to live on a farm in the North Eastern Wheatbelt region of Western Australia.

Rumours about big cats have been going round for decades there.

Apparently some pumas escaped from a circus in the mid 1950’s near Merredin WA.

Hard to tell but the environment would certainly sustain any Big Cat.

We had some 15.000 head of sheep roaming the place;

if we have lost a few each month I doubt we would have noticed to be honest.

I never had problems with the wild live on the farm.

We never got closer than about 30 yards to a big red kangaroo and they would leg it.

We had an emu land on our bonnet once, but the old Holden Kingswood kept us safe. :banana:









thanx for your in put bloke, haha the holden kingswood, what a tough old unit they were, :cheers:


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