Bill Gates - 'We Can Lower the Population Through Vaccines'
I am not a vaccine lover, although I can see the benefit of some vaccines.
Historically, vaccines have been contaminated with estrogen which has been linked (and denied by tptb) to spontaneous miscarriages. There is plenty of info on this scattered about and just makes me sceptical about the whole industry (as well as the swine flu fiasco)
Gates may have just been referring to the Amplicon vaccine, In which case we have nothing to worry about sheeple
Historically, vaccines have been contaminated with estrogen which has been linked (and denied by tptb) to spontaneous miscarriages. There is plenty of info on this scattered about and just makes me sceptical about the whole industry (as well as the swine flu fiasco)
Gates may have just been referring to the Amplicon vaccine, In which case we have nothing to worry about sheeple
trenker wrote:You all seem to think that vaccines reduce population by killing people. I'm sure some do but in the absence of any health professionals posting let me explain what Bill Gates is refering to...
Vaccines prevent diseases. Diseases kill people, usually kids. A huge portion of the globe are poor and have more kids than they need in the hope that enough survive. Decreasing infant mortality, together with other reproductive health issues, will actuall reduce population, as people can plan for smaller families. The first world illustrates this principle in practice.
There's nothing sinister. It's wonderful that something can prevent death, improve quality of life and reduce global population - vaccines.
It really annoys the hell out of me that you are not listening to exaclty what Bill Gates says,furthermore how do you know there are not any health professionals posting?
Do some real independent research my friend,please! Explain to me how vaccines which you say yourself are responsible for reducing population,how is that a good thing??Denying human beings the chance at life is good?..that seems to be what you are saying..

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sockpuppet wrote:drjones wrote:
I know m8,how much time have we got to pick holes in people's logic....not enough...the only way of knowing is finding out for yourself,i think..fear stops people from discovering many things,that's been my experience...when you can overcome or be aware of it you see how pathetic things really are and that they should be so much better,the veil lifts and you see things truly for the first time!!
You know what? I will tell you something. I don't usually just come out and tell people this because I know they will get mad and call me a disinfo agent or whatever. But from what I have learned from history, nothing is forever. I don't mean that to point out that we will all die or anything like that, but I mean that about the NWO. It can't last forever. The funny thing, is that time is speeding up so quickly... One empire rises and falls, another one rises in half the time and falls in half the time, another one rises after that in half the time as the last one... on and on. It's the same thing with religious thinking, political thinking, social/cultural thinking, music styles, fashion styles, EVERYTHING. What was the last big evil enemy? Communism? How long did that last, with any strenth? About 70 years? Islamic fundamentalism will last half as long... I give it about 35 years. The NWO? It will take one generation I think, from the time we hit rock bottom. We just haven't hit rock bottom yet. It has been a painfully slow descent, and sometimes I wish we'd just get on with it- not because I want to see it actually happen, but because I know things will never get better until we finally crash and burn. The NWO is not the end, it is a defibrillator. It will finally shock the hell out of us... ALL of us... and then we will wake up.
m8 well said...and wake up time is HERE and NOW...

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Just to be fair here.
I was listening to him speak on the video and right after he made the point about vaccinations and health care he said as part of his sentence "but there we will see an increase of 1.3"
I am not by any means endorsing this man or his ploy.............but I did hear that mean increase at least in his words.
@ Toro.
I was shocked, LOL.............When I saw that "tree" I just could not imagine that coming from you! Nice

I was listening to him speak on the video and right after he made the point about vaccinations and health care he said as part of his sentence "but there we will see an increase of 1.3"
I am not by any means endorsing this man or his ploy.............but I did hear that mean increase at least in his words.
@ Toro.
I was shocked, LOL.............When I saw that "tree" I just could not imagine that coming from you! Nice

lucidlemondrop wrote:Just to be fair here.
I was listening to him speak on the video and right after he made the point about vaccinations and health care he said as part of his sentence "but there we will see an increase of 1.3"
I am not by any means endorsing this man or his ploy.............but I did hear that mean increase at least in his words.
@ Toro.
I was shocked, LOL.............When I saw that "tree" I just could not imagine that coming from you! Nice
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Hi Lucile,is that not kind of irrelevant...the goal he quite clearly outlines is to REDUCE the population through his 'health' measures...vaccines and such...when he mentions the increase anyone able to read his body language,understand his tone of voice,it's kind of like...'not if i can do something about it...grrr' Too many people palying god in this day and age ...

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lucidlemondrop wrote:Just to be fair here.
I was listening to him speak on the video and right after he made the point about vaccinations and health care he said as part of his sentence "but there we will see an increase of 1.3"
I am not by any means endorsing this man or his ploy.............but I did hear that mean increase at least in his words.
No, he said the world pop is at 6.5 billion on its way to 9 billion (why he pulls 9 bill out of his ass, I don't know). He then said vaccines, healthcare, etc. could reduce that growth by 10%-15%, but it would still be an increase in world pop by [a factor of] 1.3...listen carefully. DrJones is correct.
The question is: What is Billy "f#ckface" Gates doing, trying to pull a fast one on TED? The statement that vaccines decrease populations remains entirely suspect.
IN GOD WE RUST
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The sad thing is that billygate is using CO2 levels as a sorta false flag, because indigenous populations and third world societies account for a small fraction of carbon dioxide levels...high school math.
IN GOD WE RUST
I think the fact that Mr. Gates uses the terms "vaccines" and "C02 reduction through population reduction" is at the very least completely irresponsible and at the worst very telling of what he truly beleives and the confidence he has that his peers think the same way...or he certainly wouldn't have said it publicly at a TED conference.
"If" over population in 3rd world countries is due to their "survival strategy" wouldn't it be more logical to provide the support and education to eraticate the root causes of the poverty? Once they become self sustaining and they can see a better future for themselves and their children they could make their own choices on their family size rather than having it dictated to them from people from other countries who have never walked in their shoes.
I thought it was interesting that Mr. Gates pointed out that the biggest contributors to the CO2 problem by far come from the US (i.e. him) and yet he wants to focus on the people who are the smallest contrbutors per capita in third world countries. At the end of the video he spoke to it briefly saying "and we could cut back "a bit" ourselves" when in fact it will take significant self management on all our parts to get things back under control and properly manage the worlds food, water and energy supplies.
At the end of the day, there seems to be or "could be" an abundance of resources available for all the earth's inhabitants to live a high quality life, but they are currently poorly managed, poorly distributed and/or held in control by the powers that be to "create" a market for them.
The system is broken, at least for the largest portion of the earths population! With all due respect to Mr. Gates and all he has acheived he is simply toting a party line put out by the people who have never been without and who's simple solution is to blame the "other" people and deal with the problem in a way that least impacts on them and their finaces. If he really wants to focus on a solution, focus on correcting the managment, distribution and financial controls on the resources. The rest will take care of itself over time, like it always has.
Just a thought!
"If" over population in 3rd world countries is due to their "survival strategy" wouldn't it be more logical to provide the support and education to eraticate the root causes of the poverty? Once they become self sustaining and they can see a better future for themselves and their children they could make their own choices on their family size rather than having it dictated to them from people from other countries who have never walked in their shoes.
I thought it was interesting that Mr. Gates pointed out that the biggest contributors to the CO2 problem by far come from the US (i.e. him) and yet he wants to focus on the people who are the smallest contrbutors per capita in third world countries. At the end of the video he spoke to it briefly saying "and we could cut back "a bit" ourselves" when in fact it will take significant self management on all our parts to get things back under control and properly manage the worlds food, water and energy supplies.
At the end of the day, there seems to be or "could be" an abundance of resources available for all the earth's inhabitants to live a high quality life, but they are currently poorly managed, poorly distributed and/or held in control by the powers that be to "create" a market for them.
The system is broken, at least for the largest portion of the earths population! With all due respect to Mr. Gates and all he has acheived he is simply toting a party line put out by the people who have never been without and who's simple solution is to blame the "other" people and deal with the problem in a way that least impacts on them and their finaces. If he really wants to focus on a solution, focus on correcting the managment, distribution and financial controls on the resources. The rest will take care of itself over time, like it always has.
Just a thought!
songhai wrote:@DrJones : isn't your point slightly far fetched ? What exactly is Bill's plan to kill people ? As far as I'm concerned I consider vaccines to be a good thing where they're needed, see ... I haven't met someone suffering from leprecy in France for a while now
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