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PostTue Mar 27, 2012 1:00 am » by Spock


I saw a crowd form that later on turned into something, I was not actually a victim, but was there when the crowd was gathering. That was one of the reasons our area set up a curfew for teens in that particular part of the city.

Another time, parking at an Atlanta Braves game, it looked like it was going to get ugly because I wouldn't pull into and park in the yards of people that were trying to sell spaces, but it was a dangerous neighborhood.

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PostTue Mar 27, 2012 1:04 am » by Spock


marvinhagler wrote:You call 2 kids "niggers",wow this is the first time that i see a moderator who posts racist messages.

Are we on stormfront or kkk.com?

Now i understand why you defend George Zimmerman.


I want you to point out or quote exactly where I defended Zimmerman's actions. Also, convince me black people don't call blacks that act like niggers, "nigger", then I would concede that you have a point. Unless you can, you're talking out of your uneducated butt sore ass.

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PostTue Mar 27, 2012 1:06 am » by Noentry


marvinhagler wrote:
You call 2 kids "niggers",wow this is the first time that i see a moderator who posts racist messages.

Are we on stormfront or kkk.com?

Now i understand why you defend George Zimmerman.


I assume you are from Europe.

I once had an old black American lady as a neighbor, I considered her an angel, a good woman, the pillar of society type.
I was round her house helping her put light bulbs in her high ceilings up a ladder.
In the course of our conversation, she said"them niggers make us black people look bad".
Americans use the word differently to us Europeans.

I my self have never called a black man a nigger to be honest I never even thought it, but what she said stayed with me since.

American context of the word is different to the European meaning.

Nigger in the UK is as derogatory as any other word.
In the states it is a classification of the black under class.

Not my choice but that seems to be how it is over there
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PostTue Mar 27, 2012 1:10 am » by Spock


I wouldn't even call it underclass Noentry - I would call it the scum factor. And I hate what they do to black people. They, armed with the media, are a major factor of racism both ways.

The best we can do is clarify. I wish there were no niggers. I wish that mentality was a thing of the past, along with white supremacy, etc. It would be the first step in a truly global family of differing cultures.

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PostTue Mar 27, 2012 1:20 am » by Noentry


spock wrote:I wouldn't even call it underclass Noentry - I would call it the scum factor. And I hate what they do to black people. They, armed with the media, are a major factor of racism both ways.

The best we can do is clarify. I wish there were no niggers. I wish that mentality was a thing of the past, along with white supremacy, etc. It would be the first step in a truly global family of differing cultures.


Thanks for that clarity, my description was a little of.

Personally I never used the word till I started posting on DTV.
And interacting with a larger American community.

In the Uk it is an evil word.
So I steer clear of it.
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PostTue Mar 27, 2012 1:22 am » by Spock


I know I should too. I do it to make a point. But in the end, it's tiresome clarifying, and since it' not part of my vernacular and the same discussion always happens, I should stop and use another avenue.

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PostTue Mar 27, 2012 1:26 am » by domdabears


noentry wrote:
In the Uk it is an evil word.
So I steer clear of it.

It's an "evil" word here too.
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PostTue Mar 27, 2012 1:29 am » by Noentry


spock wrote:I know I should too. I do it to make a point. But in the end, it's tiresome clarifying, and since it' not part of my vernacular and the same discussion always happens, I should stop and use another avenue.


I understand your perspective.
I can use the word because I do not judge a man by the colour of his skin.
So I dont like it but I am not afraid of the term, as I am not racist.

You will find that most Europeans are disgusted by it.
But like you pointed out American's use it as a classification more then as a word to offend.
So you will find it brings out the worst in a lot of people, especially here in the UK
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PostTue Mar 27, 2012 1:30 am » by Constabul


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marduk2012 wrote:WHAT THE MSM ISNT TELLING YOU!


Trayvon Martin a Drug Dealing Thug?

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Above is the iconic picture we’ve been become accustomed to seeing everywhere in the media, used to represent the recent Trayvon Martin shooting in Sanford, Florida. From everything the public has been told, Trayvon Martin was a fresh-faced, innocent looking teenager and the visage of the man who shot him, George Zimmerman, is right out of a booking photo.

The media narrative being sold is quite clear, Trayvon Martin is the innocent victim here and George Zimmerman is a horrible bigot who attacked the young man for doing nothing more than buying skittles while being black. Even Barack Obama seems to accept the fresh-faced innocence of Trayvon, stating, “If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon.” More on that later.

It’s becoming more and more clear however that the innocent appearance the mainstream media is so desperate to apply to Trayvon isn’t at all accurate. The picture we’re used to seeing to represent Trayvon Martin appears to be a far cry from how he actually looked once he was a few years older.

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Extended School Suspension

There has been a lot of analysis about the character of George Zimmerman in the media, and surprisingly little about Trayvon Martin. For instance, a few days before he was killed, Trayvon was suspended from school for ten days.

Still, Trayvon had nonviolent behavioral issues in school, and on the day he was killed, he had been suspended for 10 days from Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School in North Miami-Dade. “He was not suspended for something dealing with violence or anything like that. It wasn’t a crime he committed, but he was in an unauthorized area [on school property],” Martin said, declining to offer more details. Before that, Trayvon attended Miami Carol City High School near his mother’s home in Miami Gardens.

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There has been very little follow-up in investigating exactly why Trayvon was suspended for such a long period of time for what seems to be the relatively minor offense of “being in an unauthorized area.” In most schools, something like that would be a detention, or one-day, in school suspension at most. Not ten days.

Of course, this is why Trayvon was staying as his Father’s house, so far away from school. And it also explains why George Zimmerman, who by all accounts seemed to stay on top of everything that happened in his neighborhood, didn’t recognize him that evening, Trayvon didn’t really live there, and was only in town because of the suspension.

It seems we may not find out more anytime soon, as a lawyer representing Trayvon’s family has sealed his school records.

Multiple Tattoos

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To learn more about Trayvon’s character, we have to look to his friends and family to offer clues. Unfortunately, it seems as if most people who knew him are intent on cleaning up his image, rather than discussing what Trayvon was really like. Even though Trayvon was only 17, he already was sporting gold teeth, and several large tattoos. This one was on his wrist, apparently of his mother’s name.

This photo, taken from Tray’s MySpace page, shows another large tattoo that took up most of his upper arm.

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Twitter

It seems that Tray was also on Twitter, but his account seems to have been recently deleted by his family or friends.

His screen name was “@NO_LIMIT_NIGGA, as you can see from the twitpic accountscreenshot above. He was also a member of a twitter hash group #team4dat.

At first, I was skeptical that anyone would maintain an account with that sort of derogatory slur in the title, but after doing some research, it’s apparent that it was Trayvon’s account.

The account was in existence long before the shooting occurred a few weeks ago, and was deleted only recently, there are still dozens of references to @NO_LIMIT_NIGGA in google’s cache. The associated twitpic account matches the account name and is still online at the time of publication. Most of the pics were uploaded months ago, so this account was associated with Trayvon long before the shooting took place.

Several of Tray’s friends have been very open about referring to Trayvon using that account as well. His cousin, who is quite active on Twitter, refers to Trayvon more than a dozen times using the @NO_LIMIT_NIGGA nickname.

Violence & Gang Activity

There seem to be several allusions to violence on Tray’s Twitter account.

His friends posted supportive messages using it as well, about how happy they were that Trayvon whooped Zimmerman’s ass before he died.

@NO_LIMIT_NIGGA IMA MISS YU TILL I DIE DOG I KNOW YU WHOOPED HIS ASS DOE.. CUZ I PRAY GOD HELP ME AND WATCH YU LOVE YOU CUZZ REST ETERNALLY.
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Another post makes reference to Trayvon having “swung on a bus driver” a few days before he died.

Did that have something to do with his ten-day suspension?

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On Trayvon’s MySpace page, at least one of his top friends, Romario305, is featured making a gang sign towards the camera in his default profile picture.

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Almost all of this is in stark contrast to the media’s central narrative that Trayvon was a normal, happy, well-adjusted teenager. Instead of that, we are seeing long suspensions from school, tattoos, racially-charged epitaphs, and violence.

Drug Culture

Several of his friends have posted pictures of rolled blunts to twitter in memorial to Trayvon.

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There is also fairly direct evidence that Trayvon may have been a small-time drug-dealer.

On Facebook on February 5th, his friend posts on his wall asking to talk business. Trayvon says he doesn’t have a phone available and his friend says, “Damn were u at a nigga needa plant.”

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Unless Trayvon was selling Orchids, it seems fairly reasonable to posit that he may have been somewhat well-known among his friends for selling marijuana.

Conclusions

Hopefully this info paints a somewhat different picture of Trayvon than the one the media has been forcing down our throats for the last several weeks. This is a complex case, and while all the facts are not in yet, we do know that Zimmerman was well within his rights to make verbal contact with someone he didn’t know or recognize in his neighborhood. In fact, that’s exactly what Neighborhood Watch groups are for, to be the “eyes and ears” of the community. It appears that Zimmerman was very good at this job.

No matter how offended someone might be to have a stranger come up and ask what they are doing there, it doesn’t give anyone a license to commit assault.

From what I can tell, Zimmerman was doing a routine neighborhood watch, called in someone he considered suspicious, and was maintaining a visual on him until the police came.

Then he was attacked, had his nose broken and was in a prone position while crying out for help.

Zimmerman was pinned to the ground, according to a witness, and was still being beaten by someone much younger than him.

Many people are reading a lot into the weight difference between Martin and Zimmerman, but Zimmerman was also 5’9 and out of shape. I’m pretty sure many tubby thirty-year-olds wouldn’t do well against a fit, 6’3, 17-year-old.

This is a textbook self-defense case, and I’d urge anyone reading to look at the full set of facts before drawing conclusions.

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PostTue Mar 27, 2012 1:41 am » by Noentry


domdabears wrote:
noentry wrote:
In the Uk it is an evil word.
So I steer clear of it.

It's an "evil" word here too.


Interestingly There are no UK comedians that use it, well not that I have heard of.
I have never seen it used on mainstream TV, lets put it like that.

Also I noticed not to many white American comedians use it either.

You are right of course.
It is an evil and derogatory term in both countries.
I believe it originates from the states rather then from the UK, from the days of slavery.

I still believe Americans are more educated or advanced when it comes to racist issues or ideology's.
As you have had to confront it due to the segregation of your not to distant past.
And as America is the most multicultural society ever in the history of man.
I can understand why it is easier to use in the states, and has a slightly less offensive connotation attached to it.
As I learned from the black American lady from my past
"The third-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the majority.
The second-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the minority.
The first-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking."
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