BLUEBEAM The Next False Flag?

Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:49 pm » by **Alexrubic**

Intriguing posts, slushpup! As you say - it could be disinformation - a double bluff, of sorts.

Talking of 'devil's advocate' here is another - even wilder - speculation:

What if Lucifer is really the good guy? Lucifer literally mean 'light-bearer'. If you read the bible - particularly genesis - there is disturbing connotations in there with regard to God's attitude to Adam and Eve (humans). It almost seems as if he revels in keeping Adam and Eve in both ignorance and subservience. They are forbidden to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Why? Surely it would be an important factor in the exercise of their free will to be able to differentiate between what is good and what is evil? Maybe 'God' was afraid his creation would come to know that he was, in fact, evil? Lucifer is an angel sent to bring the light of awareness to Adam and Eve. To get them to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil so that they would gain that insight. And when they did they grew fearful and ashamed and hid from God. Whereupon God showed his wrath and cast down Lucifer and banished Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden!

Now, what if this 'God' was not the 'true' and 'only' God but the Demiurge (a mystical being below the rank of God who was trusted to oversee the creation of Earth and who coveted God's creation and wanted to usurp God's position (at least in the eyes of Man)? What if God himself sent Lucifer to help cast the blinkers from Adam and Eve's eyes and let them see the Demiurge for what he really was but the Demiurge merely turned this to his advantage and cast Lucifer as the bad guy and kept man in fear and subservience to a false 'God' to this day?

Could it be all religion is a lie, a gross distortion that keeps us blind, afraid and subservient?

Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:57 pm » by **Awakened**

WHAT IF Lucifer is GOOD.

I mean everyone the word of god has been placed in has ruined it.
Ex. Jews being exiled by Assyrian's. Then Romans - OLD Testament
Christian's now brainwashing our children and having one of the most predominant figures in their faith caught in a sex scandal.
Islam and their idea of religous war being an entry into heaven.

What if this new ANTI Christ is the good guy because he will steer us away from the wrong that's infected the strongest religions. Its ANTI because its different then whats been preached before and it works.

I dont know it just seems that people over think reigion and the idea of the being something be

Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:09 am » by **Alexrubic**

Exactly!

Demiurge
religionGreek Dēmiourgos (“public worker”), plural Demiourgoi,
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in philosophy, a subordinate god who fashions and arranges the physical world to make it conform to a rational and eternal ideal. Plato adapted the term, which in ancient Greece had originally been the ordinary word for “craftsman,” or “artisan” (broadly interpreted to include not only manual workers but also heralds, soothsayers, and physicians), and which in the 5th century bc had come to designate certain magistrates or elected officials.

From the Britannica On-line Encyclopaedia

So Demiurge would have been the subordinate god to God who actually fashioned the physical world according to God's design but grew covetous of it and wanted it for his own!

If you can, read Genesis closely - I know it may suffer from centuries of translations, re-translations and rewrites (and is unlikely to be an accurate verbatim account of creation!) - it definitely starts off talking about one God fashioning everything but then seems to seamlessly segue into a story about many gods fashioning humans; "made in our likeness", etc.

Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:32 am » by **Snakeplissken**

Great post this.

Lucifer = Good huh? Your talking about duality, something i believe great deal in, in that that life is never black and white and people are never just good or evil. You see this duality within nature all the time, life and death, good and bad are the extremes, but in real life is this duality of good and bad that can be found in the truth of things. :wink:

As above below... :wink:

I have heard about project blue beam, but im not sure where it was that i first read about it or where the first source of information about it came from. I could totally believe they might try to pull something off like this, but i think people would see through it, i mean, if it happened tomorrow me and everyone on this forum would be straight on here picking the whole thing apart!!

Personally i dont buy that anything is truly good or truly evil, everyone has just has their moments. I think even if the real thing actually happened id still be sceptical as by the concept of duality the God(s) that get vicars and nuns all excited cant be all good and are just as fallable as us lowly humans. Always did hate the class system, id be like Kirk in that Star Trek movie, "Er...excuse me, but why would god....need............a starship!!!!"

Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:23 am » by **Theshee**

The same thing happened between Egyptian gods Set and Ra or similar anyway...
There was a feud between those that worshiped them, and the people of Ra won the battle. That's why we know Ra as the good god and Set as the bad god.
Satan has been made out to be a real bad guy from almost all religions, threatening Hell with those that do not abide by the 'rules' they always make Satan out to be the 'bady' yet Satan does not bad mouth God :headscratch:

(*I have NO religious preference*! Just encase I get verbally attacked lol)
I don't know what to believe about project bluebeam, why would they let it leak? And how many people WOULD believe it?!?! Maybe I'm just being cynical in thinking not so many people follow a strict religion now :think:

(Oh boy do I know someone is going to berate me for THAT)
It is scary to think what would happen if it did come about... then again if you look at whats going on around us now maybe it has already begun! We live with some really f*&^ed up people on this beautiful planet of ours don't you think ?!?

Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:07 am » by **Brothers**

I find this a most interesting theory. It wouldn't suprise me at all if a project called Bluebeam exists. However I find one flaw in it. You see this cannot happen anytime soon only because the Jewish people would never believe in it. The reason why is because the 3rd temple has not been built. You can project anything you want for other religions but the Jewish religion. Once the 3rd temple is built and after 3 1/2 years pass the Lord Yahova is suppose to appear if I understand it correctly. The temple will not be built anytime in our lifetime and if the Muslims have it their way it will never be built. Like I said, a most interesting theory.

Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:51 am » by **Dirtyrabbit**

Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:57 am » by **Headsinthesand**

well with all the religious fanatics around the world, project bluebeam does put me on edge, but the true shift of thinking will come when we all realize that even if there is a definate good and evil ( no matter which side is actually good or evil), the human condition to explain things we do not understand by turning to supernatural means(aka the romans and greeks attributing the seasons to a story of a woman being trapt in hades for the winter therefore the winter comes) is the root of all evil. there are so many looking for reasons that things have happened to them because of some cosmic determination, and so many that believe the world and universe we live in is just to complex to have been a random occurance, and completly disregard the facts that we may be just primordial ooze that had enough time to develop comprehensive thought and look for the answers in all the wrong places instead of our own thoughts, what needs to happen is we need to start by doing the right things just because it is the right thing, we are so convinced that we will be saved or we will be lead by one person or one train of thought, maybe we just need to stop hoping for heaven after the fact and start creating it with whatever means we can, abolish governments and power hungry corporations which till now have served as a neccesary evil to drive the industrial revolution through competition, abolish control hungry religions looking to control the masses through fear and obediance, realize our money is worthless and we are wasting the linen and cotton and usefull metals it is printed on and start useing these things to create clothes and tools for underdeveloped countrys, our lives are forfit to the banks, my child will grow up in slavery unless i can educate her and teach her she is not a slave and does not owe her life to one man at the top, and that her and her generation should not be responsible for funding the wars of our time, i do not promote violence in any form but we are going to have to fight for our lives if project bluebeam is able to convince even 1% of the world population. your souls are free why are we paying their ransom.

Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:34 am » by **Gazbom56**

slushpup wrote:OKAY now all that is up and said in the forum.. I will play the DEVILS ADVOCATE for a minute..

Lets say Christianity and the other religions of the world are right...
Bare with me...
So if there is a second coming to happen and END DAYS are real... The we have to agree that SATAN is also real and by this perspective, He rules the earth and there will be a Antichrist.
So lets say the people involved then know they can't win in the end..
So.. They release false documents to get conspiracies rumbling as propaganda for their favor.Throw in some high tech images to make it look plausible... All expect to see a false flag event...
So if the real thing happens no one believes it and favor is in SATAN'S court.. People will reject their Savior's or God's coming...
Simple case of reverse Psychology on the masses to gain deception and doubt...
The question I ask then is why and how would they allow a paper like this to be released to the public knowing the outcome of such an idea?? Dis-info??
Lets face it the majority here hands down would not believe the real deal if it happened just based on these facts.... Closing thought remember Satan is the deceiver, and how better to deceive than to cast doubt on reality for his own gains....
Just food for thought...

Well IMHO and after studying the Bible for many years this is exactly what is about to happen, don't forget the devil offered Jesus the world 2,000 years ago, so he was in control even then, Jesus will return just as promised but we will be deceived into believing it is an alien invasion and the world will prepare to fight Jesus, which is prophesied in Daniel and A Revelation to John and I will remind you everything prophesied in the Bible comes true, that means 2 thirds of people on this forum will die, in fact 2 thirds of the worlds population will die! So be prepared and keep alert!
Great post Slushpup

Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:38 pm » by **Drjak**

"you go on being reincarnated until you reach the actual truth. heaven and hell are just a state of mind" George Harrison