BREAKING: Feds prep for Waco style raid of Bundy Ranch

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PostThu Apr 10, 2014 10:09 am » by Malogg


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PostThu Apr 10, 2014 11:37 am » by Tntbw


Wow that was a bunch of fired up citizens! I'm guessing the next logical step for the feds is to isolate as many of the protesters as they can into individual pre-dawn raids of their premises and haul them away on trumped up charges. God bless America.

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PostThu Apr 10, 2014 12:24 pm » by DarkHeart


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I bet they are clearing everyone out to create another secret base like Area 51, its the only rational explanation, the question is why do they need it ?

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PostThu Apr 10, 2014 3:11 pm » by Chronicnerd


More information : http://bundyranch.blogspot.com/

This is a really strange case:

First, you should understand a bit about "Public Land":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_land#United_States


Second, you should understand what the Bundy Ranch does:
They raise cattle for people to *EAT*.
(Which, btw, in lieu of financial times, destroyed ranches from weather, and various other issues... the Bundy Ranch is performing a *service* to the public by continuing to provide a large quantity of beef to Americans).

The Bundy Ranch had worked out a deal, signed by a federal judge, that gave them rights to graze his cattle on the *public land*, of which the government started increasing the fees and of which he did not believe the increased fees were part of the original "deal" the federal government had struck with the Bundy family many decades agao.

The Bundy Ranch had worked all of this land *WELL BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT WAS THE GOVERNMENT*, which raises some questions as to how the government all of the sudden had *rights* to this land.

Not until really around 1998 is when the government (BLM) decided to revoke this plan and issued an injunction.

Currently, BLM is stating that their primary reasoning is that this land is being preserved for some kind of *TORTOISE*... ????

Interesting Time Line:

Under Republican/Conservative Government:
Around 1993 the fees started increasing, and the Bundy ranch started ignoring them (as they had used this relatively small tract of land that bordered their land for decades)...
There was no real "activity" about them not paying the additional fee until...

Under Democratic/Progressive Liberal Government:
Around 1998 the BLM started filing injunctions against the Bundy Ranch.

Under Republican/Conservative Government:
From 2000 to 2008 the Bundy Ranch continued to operate just as they had, for the most part, without any major interruptions.

Under Democratic/Progressive Liberal Government:
Now, in 2012-2013, the BLM group started *AGGRESSIVELY* going after the Bundy Ranch...


Why put political parties in power under this timeline?
First you *MUST* understand who the people are that are disseminating the objectives to the officers...never just assume that officers are at fault...it is *always* who sends the officers that are behind things.

So, why is this a political thing?
http://www.nationaljournal.com/energy/obama-names-nominee-to-head-bureau-of-land-management-20131108

Who cares if Obama appointed Neil Kornze to head up the BLM in 2013?
http://grist.org/news/obama-nominates-blm-leader-neil-kornze-to-lead-the-blm/

Kornze’s boss, Interior Secretary Sally Jewell, had this to say about him: “Neil has helped implement forward-looking reforms at the BLM to promote energy development in areas of minimal conflict, drive landscape-level planning efforts, and dramatically expand the agency’s use of technology to speed up the process for energy permitting.”



Tortoise my Arse!!!!!

They want to use that land for solar panels... or wind farms... and are trying to make a big enough stink about it to try and get the Bundy's to do something *dumb* which would then allow the federal government to allocate funds to the BLM in order to "protect the land" from the "cattle" grazing on it...

Which by the way:
Ranches will never let their cattle over graze a piece of land. The primary reason is that when you over-graze...you can kill/harm the grass/plants for next year...which in turn is self defeating. As such, you rotate your cattle to various places.

If anything... The Bundy Ranch should be *PAID* by the federal government for helping "maintain" the land through the use of cattle and grazing rotation techniques.



So, I brought in the political element because it is *very* curious indeed:

In the 1990's the BLM was managed by a liberal...and the Bundy Ranch seemed to all of the sudden be given a ton of extra fees...for doing what they had done for over 100 years...

The Bundy ranch ignored the fees, during Bush Senior's term, and nothing happened.

When Bill Clinton became president, all of the sudden the BLM is all over the Bundy Ranch...

Then Bush Junior became president... all of the sudden...BLM lays off the Bundy Ranch....

Then of course...Obama...becomes president... Obama *HAND PICKS* Neil Kornze to head up the BLM in 2013...

And wow... go figure... in 2013 the BLM claims a *TORTOISE* is the purpose behind all of this... but really... if you have *HALF a BRAIN* you can look at *WHO* is behind all of this...

And realize... they are pushing a 100+ year CATTLE FARMING FAMILY (who has provided food to Americans during this ENTIRE TIME) out of this area... in what could really *ONLY BE USED FOR SOLAR AND WIND POWER*... but in the name of a "Tortoise"...of which would get *MUTILATED* if they started putting solar wind farms on this land...

The whole "harass" and "blame" technique is getting old... the Obama administration has been doing this since they took office...

Now, they are literally *Messing with American's food supply* in the name of... solar energy...or wind energy...

And... we all know how well all of Obama's "Solar Energy and Alternative Energy" projects have gone...

Tons of money spent (hundreds upon hundreds of millions)...and nothing...what-so-ever...to show for it.

It is just *SICK*... to see all of this happen....

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PostThu Apr 10, 2014 4:25 pm » by Truthdefender


Chronicnerd wrote:More information : http://bundyranch.blogspot.com/

This is a really strange case:

First, you should understand a bit about "Public Land":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_land#United_States


Second, you should understand what the Bundy Ranch does:
They raise cattle for people to *EAT*.
(Which, btw, in lieu of financial times, destroyed ranches from weather, and various other issues... the Bundy Ranch is performing a *service* to the public by continuing to provide a large quantity of beef to Americans).

The Bundy Ranch had worked out a deal, signed by a federal judge, that gave them rights to graze his cattle on the *public land*, of which the government started increasing the fees and of which he did not believe the increased fees were part of the original "deal" the federal government had struck with the Bundy family many decades agao.

The Bundy Ranch had worked all of this land *WELL BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT WAS THE GOVERNMENT*, which raises some questions as to how the government all of the sudden had *rights* to this land.

Not until really around 1998 is when the government (BLM) decided to revoke this plan and issued an injunction.

Currently, BLM is stating that their primary reasoning is that this land is being preserved for some kind of *TORTOISE*... ????

Interesting Time Line:

Under Republican/Conservative Government:
Around 1993 the fees started increasing, and the Bundy ranch started ignoring them (as they had used this relatively small tract of land that bordered their land for decades)...
There was no real "activity" about them not paying the additional fee until...

Under Democratic/Progressive Liberal Government:
Around 1998 the BLM started filing injunctions against the Bundy Ranch.

Under Republican/Conservative Government:
From 2000 to 2008 the Bundy Ranch continued to operate just as they had, for the most part, without any major interruptions.

Under Democratic/Progressive Liberal Government:
Now, in 2012-2013, the BLM group started *AGGRESSIVELY* going after the Bundy Ranch...


Why put political parties in power under this timeline?
First you *MUST* understand who the people are that are disseminating the objectives to the officers...never just assume that officers are at fault...it is *always* who sends the officers that are behind things.

So, why is this a political thing?
http://www.nationaljournal.com/energy/obama-names-nominee-to-head-bureau-of-land-management-20131108

Who cares if Obama appointed Neil Kornze to head up the BLM in 2013?
http://grist.org/news/obama-nominates-blm-leader-neil-kornze-to-lead-the-blm/

Kornze’s boss, Interior Secretary Sally Jewell, had this to say about him: “Neil has helped implement forward-looking reforms at the BLM to promote energy development in areas of minimal conflict, drive landscape-level planning efforts, and dramatically expand the agency’s use of technology to speed up the process for energy permitting.”



Tortoise my Arse!!!!!

They want to use that land for solar panels... or wind farms... and are trying to make a big enough stink about it to try and get the Bundy's to do something *dumb* which would then allow the federal government to allocate funds to the BLM in order to "protect the land" from the "cattle" grazing on it...

Which by the way:
Ranches will never let their cattle over graze a piece of land. The primary reason is that when you over-graze...you can kill/harm the grass/plants for next year...which in turn is self defeating. As such, you rotate your cattle to various places.

If anything... The Bundy Ranch should be *PAID* by the federal government for helping "maintain" the land through the use of cattle and grazing rotation techniques.



So, I brought in the political element because it is *very* curious indeed:

In the 1990's the BLM was managed by a liberal...and the Bundy Ranch seemed to all of the sudden be given a ton of extra fees...for doing what they had done for over 100 years...

The Bundy ranch ignored the fees, during Bush Senior's term, and nothing happened.

When Bill Clinton became president, all of the sudden the BLM is all over the Bundy Ranch...

Then Bush Junior became president... all of the sudden...BLM lays off the Bundy Ranch....

Then of course...Obama...becomes president... Obama *HAND PICKS* Neil Kornze to head up the BLM in 2013...

And wow... go figure... in 2013 the BLM claims a *TORTOISE* is the purpose behind all of this... but really... if you have *HALF a BRAIN* you can look at *WHO* is behind all of this...

And realize... they are pushing a 100+ year CATTLE FARMING FAMILY (who has provided food to Americans during this ENTIRE TIME) out of this area... in what could really *ONLY BE USED FOR SOLAR AND WIND POWER*... but in the name of a "Tortoise"...of which would get *MUTILATED* if they started putting solar wind farms on this land...

The whole "harass" and "blame" technique is getting old... the Obama administration has been doing this since they took office...

Now, they are literally *Messing with American's food supply* in the name of... solar energy...or wind energy...

And... we all know how well all of Obama's "Solar Energy and Alternative Energy" projects have gone...

Tons of money spent (hundreds upon hundreds of millions)...and nothing...what-so-ever...to show for it.

It is just *SICK*... to see all of this happen....



Excellent post! And I appreciate your perspective on a lot of issues.


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PostThu Apr 10, 2014 4:39 pm » by The57ironman


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PostThu Apr 10, 2014 7:17 pm » by Domeika


I think I'd have to bring a hornets nest in a mason jar for a get together like that.

Try tasing those you effin lowlife federale scum.

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PostThu Apr 10, 2014 8:41 pm » by Phoenix rising


Protestors at the Bundy Ranch in Bunkerville, Nevada take on the Feds and stand their ground.


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PostThu Apr 10, 2014 9:39 pm » by Evildweeb


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Phoenix my friend - this was covered in the first post here:

breaking-feds-prep-for-waco-style-raid-of-bundy-ranch-t92721.html

Tho this story DOES need to be more viewed and responded over.

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PostThu Apr 10, 2014 9:50 pm » by Mydogma


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Phoenix my friend - this was covered in the first post here:

breaking-feds-prep-for-waco-style-raid-of-bundy-ranch-t92721.html

Tho this story DOES need to be more viewed and responded over.

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