Pope Benedict XVI 'to resign'

[One-23 Profile]

So this whole episode has turned into some kind of Conspiracy which has it's grounds in some prophetic catholic saint.

Now I might be wrong on this, but I'm guessing the majority of members on DTV are white male Christians.

Would be good to get a slant on this from a different view. i.e. religion as to what if anything this resignation portrays to them.

Any takers ?

[The57ironman Profile]

Now I might be wrong on this, but I'm guessing the majority of members on DTV are white male Christians.

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......really..?


...edit..(about the pope)

[Poooooot Profile]

Religious people are the sorriest fucks out there, "oh im living in my own fecies, but god is just testing me,
thank you god, may I have another. oh my stool has a greenish colour, must be a sign, FROM GOD!"

I respect your right to feel that way, but there's no need to criticize people for having a belief in something bigger than themselves.

[Truthdefender Profile]

'Final pope' authors predicted Benedict would resign



Although a Roman Catholic pope had not stepped down in nearly 600 years, the startling resignation of Pope Benedict XVI was predicted by the co-authors of a book published last spring about a medieval prophecy that the next pontiff will be the last.

In “Petrus Romanus: The Final Pope is Here,” co-authors Tom Horn and Cris Putnam examine St. Malachy’s “Prophecy of the Popes,” said to be based on his prophetic vision of the next 112 popes, beginning with Pope Celestine II, who died in 1144. Malachy presented a description of each pope, culminating with the “final pope,” “Peter the Roman,” whose reign would end with the destruction of Rome and judgment.


Horn explained to WND in an interview today that his conclusion Benedict would resign rather than die in the papacy was based not only on St. Malachy but also on a host of historical and current information.

“We took ‘The Prophecy of the Popes,’ we took what was happening in Italian media, and we determined, based on a great deal of information, that Pope Benedict would likely step down, citing health reasons, in 2012 or 2013,” he said.

St. Malachy was an Irish saint and the archbishop of Armagh, who lived from 1094 to 1l48. Malacy described the penultimate pope, which Horn believes is Benedict, as “Gloria Olivae,” or “Glory of the Olive.”

Pope Benedict XVI was not a Benedictine priest, yet he chose the name of Benedict, the founder of the Order of Saint Benedict, which also is known as the Olivetans

The symbol of the Benedictine order includes an olive branch.

Benedict, speaking Monday morning in Latin to a small gathering of cardinals at the Vatican, said that after examining his conscience “before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise” of leading the Roman Catholic Church.


Peter the Roman

Horn and Putnam discuss the evidence pointing to a Benedict resignation on pages 74 and 486 of their April 2012 book, and Horn has made the prediction on a number of radio programs in recent months, including Jan. 13.

Malachy described the last Pope as “Petrus Romanus,” or “Peter the Roman,” writing: “In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock among many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people.”

Horn and his co-author have created their own list of 10 candidates to succeed Benedict and become “Peter the Roman.”

Interestingly, a leading candidate is Cardinal Tarcisio Pietro Evasio Bertone, the Cardinal secretary of state, who was born in Romano, Italy. His name could, therefore, be rendered Peter the Roman.

Another Peter on the list is a black African, Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana, the current president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace.

In any case, Horn noted, Catholics believe the pope inhabits the “Petrine office” as a successor of the apostle Peter.

Other candidates on Horn’s list are Francis Arinze, Angelo Scola, Gianfranco Ravasi, Leonardo Sandri, Ennio Antonelli, Jean-Louis Tauran, Christoph Schönborn and Marc Quellet.

In 1880, M. J. O’Brien, a Catholic priest, published in Dublin a book providing a “historical and critical account” of St. Malachy’s prophecies.

O’Brien believed Malachy was declaring that the reign of the pope identified as Petrus Romanus would culminate with the end of the world and the return of Jesus Christ.

O’Brien describes Malachy’s vision occurring while the saint was in Rome for a month, visiting and praying at the Eternal City’s many historical and holy sites.

The sight of the ruins of Pagan Rome, the tombs of the Apostles, the thought of so many thousands of martyrs, the presence of [Pope] Innocent II, who had been obligated to wander so many years in France and elsewhere on account of the anti-pope Anaclete – all this, I say, filled the mind of St. Malachy with deep and sad reflections and he was forced to cry out in the words of the old prophets: “Usquequo, Domine non misereberis Sion?” – “How long, O Lord! wilt Thou not have mercy on Sion?”

O’Brien continued:

And God answered: “Until the end of the world the Church will be both militant and triumphant. Until the end of time the sufferings of my passion and the mysteries of my cross must be continued on earth, and I shall be with you until the end of the world.” And then was unfolded before the gaze of the holy bishop of Armagh the long line of illustrious pilots who were to guide the storm-tossed bark of Peter until the end.

Malachy gave his manuscript to Innocent II, who was pontiff from 1130 to 1143. The document was placed in the Vatican archives, where it remained unknown until its discovery in 1590.

‘Amazingly accurate’

Through the past 900 years, various critics have questioned the authenticity and the accuracy of St. Malachy’s prophecies, often arguing the methods used by some of his interpreters to apply his epithets to certain popes have been tortuous.

Horn told WND he and Putnam took a critical view of “The Prophecy of the Popes” and determined that the first part of it, the first 70 or so predictions, probably was altered in the late 16th century.

“It appears that somebody had altered the original medieval document from 1590 backward to promote a particular cardinal to the College of Cardinals to be the fulfillment of what at that time was still a secret list of popes,” Horn explained.

An advocate for Cardinal Girolamo Simoncelli, Horn said, likely “tinkered with the document to make it look like it was pointing toward Simoncelli.”

In “Petrus Romanus,” Horn said, he and Putnam “disregard everything pre-1595, as partly or fully tainted.”

After 1595, however, “The Prophecy of the Popes” was open to public scrutiny.

A modern version of Malachy’s prophecies was published in 1969 by Archbishop H. E. Cardinale, the Apostolic Nuncio to Belgium and Luxembourg.

Cardinale wrote “it is fair to say the vast majority of Malachy’s predictions about successive Popes is amazingly accurate – always remembering that he gives only a minimum of information.”

Horn noted Benedict’s brother, Georg Ratzinger, also a priest, suggested last year that the pontiff might retire at age 85, arguing Catholic law would allow for him to step down if his health wouldn’t allow him to continue.

Benedict, himself, made a case for papal resignation in a book-length interview, “Light of the World.”

Asked if he thought it appropriate for a pope to retire, he said, “If a pope clearly realizes that he is no longer physically, psychologically and spiritually capable of handling the duties of his office, then he has a right and, under some circumstances, also an obligation to resign.”
http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/final-pope-a ... ld-resign/

[Naranja Profile]

Religious people are the sorriest fucks out there, "oh im living in my own fecies, but god is just testing me,
thank you god, may I have another. oh my stool has a greenish colour, must be a sign, FROM GOD!"

I respect your right to feel that way, but there's no need to criticize people for having a belief in something bigger than themselves.

I believe in something bigger than myself, but Im not religious, I have neither been born in to a belief and I have chose not to believe in any of the prefab mind controlling cults that exist, and the idea that anyone sits closer to any type of god by being selected in to a cult as a leader like the pope is, is absurd and disgusting.

I cant respect religious people, they are sheep, followers of a cult, period.

[WillEase666 Profile]

Anybody superstitious...................


Lighting strikes the basilica of St.Peter's dome earlier this evening during a storm that struck Rome on the same day Pope Benedict XVI announced his resignation

That is trippy...

WOW did the lightning come out of a storm, THAT IS SO WIERD!!

Religious people are the sorriest fucks out there, "oh im living in my own fecies, but god is just testing me,
thank you god, may I have another. oh my stool has a greenish colour, must be a sign, FROM GOD!"

First of all, neither I nor Shemagh said anything about it being weird.
Some people may take the lightning strike as a sign, others (like myself) consider it interesting timing but a coincidence all the same.
If you are going to be a religious bigot, take it to "God like productions"

[Kaarmaa Profile]

[Edgar 2.0 Profile]

He should've resigned a years ago.
Ratz was a Pope, but no one will remember him as a Pope. He'll be remembered as a guy who was the Prefect of the Congregation for the doctrine of the faith for 24 years.

Or the Supreme sacred congregation of the roman and universal inquisition.

He was blatantly hiding each and every paedophilia case in Catholic church. And was threatening the other (honest) priests if they ever reveal any details.

He even believed that paedophilia cases should be resolved "inside", thus bypassing the Police and the Courts.

He was Wojtyła's buddy and no one ever dared to question his decisions.

He is an extremely evil and dangerous man, and should've been convicted and executed a long time ago.

His HitlerJugend years are totally unimportant...

[Edgar 2.0 Profile]

And now behold the harvest of this long campaign of obfuscation. The Roman Catholic Church is headed by a mediocre Bavarian bureaucrat once tasked with the concealment of the foulest iniquity, whose ineptitude in that job now shows him to us as a man personally and professionally responsible for enabling a filthy wave of crime. Ratzinger himself may be banal, but his whole career has the stench of evil—a clinging and systematic evil that is beyond the power of exorcism to dispel.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2010/03/the_great_catholic_coverup.html

[Mob 2,0 Profile]

Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence in the House of God (2012)


Alex Gibney explores the charged issue of pedophilia in the Catholic Church, following a trail from the first known protest against clerical sexual abuse in the United States and all the way to the Vatican
http://viooz.eu/movies/15909-mea-maxima ... -2012.html