Cops Are Getting Out Of Control

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PostMon Nov 26, 2012 7:34 pm » by Savwafair2012



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A California man was jailed for four days for attempting to record police officers on a public street.

Daniel J. Saulmon was charged with resisting, delaying and obstructing an officer but the video shows he was standing well out the way of a traffic stop and was only arrested when he failed to produce identification to an approaching officer.

And there is no law in California that requires citizens to produce identification. And even if there was, it would require the officer to have a reasonable suspicion that he was committing a crime.

But prosecutors have already dropped the charge against Saulmon as well as a few other minor citations relating to his bicycle such as not have proper reflectors on the pedals.

And they most likely knew who he was considering he won a $25,000 settlement from the same police department after they unlawfully arrested him on eavesdropping/wiretapping charges in 2005.

This time, it appears the Hawthorne Police Department will be dishing out much more, thanks to officer Gabriel Lira’s abuse of authority.

“They knew exactly who I was,” Saulmon said in a telephone interview with Photography is Not a CrimeSaturday, adding that he has recorded them on a regular basis since the 2005 arrest when he was jailed after attempting to file a complaint inside the police station.

“They always address me as ‘Mr. Saulmon’,” he said.


U.S. Army Soldier Arrested By Police For Asking Questions



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A U.S. Army serviceman was arrested by Georgia police for “obstruction of law enforcement” despite the fact that his crime amounted to nothing more than asking questions while filming cops during a traffic stop.
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PostMon Nov 26, 2012 8:30 pm » by Phaeton


A 17 yr old Dutch kid got shot in the neck by the police last weekend in the Netherlands. Somebody reported he had a gun.

He didnt.

Died a few hours later.

http://www.costaconnectie.nl/2012/11/26/update-politie-schiet-jongen-rishi-chandrikasing-17-dood-en-stille-tocht/

I cant imagine a scenario where this could happen if someone had sufficient training and restrictive / apt firearm policy. At the very least shoot the dude in the leg or something.
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PostTue Nov 27, 2012 1:31 am » by Marcydare


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PostTue Nov 27, 2012 3:16 am » by Cia212


And there is no law in California that requires citizens to produce identification. And even if there was, it would require the officer to have a reasonable suspicion that he was committing a crime.


This part isn't technically true. You can be detained in cuffs, searched and given a field interview for just being near an area where a crime is suspected. And that includes a drunk checkpoint.

And when he tells the officer to not point the flashlight in his face, that can be considered resisting. The laws are written so the police have a LOT of wiggle room.

Also, if you're recording an arrest, your camera can be confiscated as evidence, and refusing will get you arrested for obstruction.

All of these charges will probably be dropped, but you'll still have a few days and a ton of headaches to deal with.



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PostTue Nov 27, 2012 3:19 am » by Lucidlemondrop


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