Can Angels be invoked?

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PostSun Dec 13, 2009 4:26 pm » by Sheeple


concrete wrote:No.
I don't think you get it.
No one could entirely comprehend it and it is a matter of personal experience (if any).

Also, what about Saints and the subconscious connection behind the chosen names.
For example, one of the most popular, John (or Jens in Danish): English form of Iohannes, the Latin form of the Greek name Ιωαννης (Ioannes), itself derived from the Hebrew name יוֹחָנָן (Yochanan) meaning "YAHWEH is gracious".

Could the name itself invoke entities?

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PostSun Dec 13, 2009 4:42 pm » by Clouseau


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Nine Orders of Angels: Seraphim, Cherubim, Thrones, Dominions, Virtues, Powers, Principalities, Archangels and Angels.


I guess they didn't care to mention the Angels that fell or was banished...

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PostSun Dec 13, 2009 4:44 pm » by Proto


bottom line, i respect other people beliefs,as long as it's not forced on me .
just because it was written by dead people ,faithful people, we
should never discuss it ever again ?
i find all this subject interesting without regards to it's accuracy .
or wheter i believe it or not .

how about dark matter ? prove it exists .
there is a possibility that there is matter that you cant
see , doesn't mean it's not there .

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PostSun Dec 13, 2009 5:21 pm » by Clouseau


While on the subject nobody has mentioned the 72 names of the Angels...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shemhamphorasch

If there are Angels... I don't think it would be good idea to invoke these angels, because you just never know which Angel your going to get if you are successfull... But I'll leave that up for all you to decide.

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I respect the beliefs of others, but I myself have a hard time understanding the ideal all things came into being in a giagantic fish bowl we call the universe, all on it's own...

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PostSun Dec 13, 2009 5:43 pm » by Proto


concrete wrote:I suppose making laws, based on books written by dead people, makes a just society?


you mean like the sharia ? no way .

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PostSun Dec 13, 2009 5:48 pm » by Cornbread714


As big a skeptic as I seem sometimes, I have no problem entertaining the idea there there are, or might be, non-human entities that occupy the same "space" as us or exist on some over-lapping dimensional plane.

Maybe they are projections of our collective unconscious but that's just a label, and it doesn't make the mystery less intriguing.

However, it seems that these beings, spirits, angels, etc. are, and always have, masked themselves in apparitions and manifestations that fit the current cultural milieu. Either that, or we have projected those attributes onto them.

Native Americans had animal spirits and plant spirits because they were hunter-gatherers.

People in Christian societies see angels and the Virgin Mary.

Many of us, in our technology-driven world, see sci-fi aliens with superior technology.

All these assumptions may be false, or at least skewed. :look:

Because of the cultural biases regarding these supposed entities, I think it's wise to view them with a critical eye.
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PostSun Dec 13, 2009 6:00 pm » by Sheeple


concrete wrote:I suppose it would depend on what you believe in.

My name means, blessed one.
I can assure you, I am far from that.
You mean, like the name of the current Pope?
Invoking entities is not always a pleasant experience, think of it more like that you are one of a blessed generation which may know the truth.

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PostSun Dec 13, 2009 6:01 pm » by Proto


חנוכה hanuuka, hanukka :) what does it matter happy holidays .

i just want to add that the equivalent (in religious terms, not in context)
to the sharia law in hebrew is medinat halacha ,which means
state that run according to Jewish religious law .
which i resent just as much as the sharia law .
because i don't think it's correct for our current frame of mind in time& space .
the extreme religious jews keep pushing for this, but
that hopefully will never completely happen here .

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PostSun Dec 13, 2009 6:05 pm » by Slith


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PostSun Dec 13, 2009 6:06 pm » by domdabears


I invoke thee!
I INVOKE THEE!!!
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