Hi, this is my first post ever but I feel I need to do it now! I have been following the chemtrail/contrail debates that have been going on for some time now and to be honest, I am still not sure what to beleive! I have a couple of questions to which I am hoping to get answered here. I live in the south west of France and we have contrails/chemtrails virtually every day. We live in a relatively small community of less than 2,000 people, with no major cities close by. The area is mainly agricultural producing fruit, veg and livestock mainly for local use. So, my first question is this; If these things are so dangerous, why do they make them during the hours of daylight where everyone can see them? Why not spray at night, so that any fall out???? would be down to earth before anyone was any the wiser?(This question applies to the whole of the world and not just France) Question 2; Why would they leave so many over such a sparsley populated area? ie, what would be the point? Question 3; Isn't it true, that all of the so called samples that are being collected are allready present in the atmosphere and not just coming from chentrails/contrails? Anyway, I hope you can help and i've tried to post some pics but I can't seem to get it to work. Help! Thanks for reading.
Boe

People have been so bashed with the notion that ALL airplane contrails are CHEMtrails, that it becomes harder and harder to discern the truth. And frankly, it changes a normal morning sky into one to be afraid of. This is not necessary... Awareness is great..paranoia (and not saying you are, by any stretch) is NOT.


THe FACT is...while there ARE spraying operations in place for military applications, such as over the horizon radar, and obscuration of ground details to enemy radar and to disguise troop movements..

90% of what everyone is calling chemtrails are nothing more than common CONTRAILS.
Thats why they are not limited to night time, thats why people see them every single day..because normal commercial flights occur every single day..and physics..happens RIGHT IN OUR VERY OWN SKIES..every single day..

People can argue with me till they are fucking blue in the face, but arguing cant negate physics and science. (again, not referring to you, friend)

My guess, in answer to your question...is that you are seeing MOSTLY normal condensate Contrails.

Not to say HOWEVER, that your area NEVER experiences application spraying..it is MUCH MUCH more likely that you are seeing a perfectly normal phenomenon.

I speak the truth.

Yes, they do spray at night. I believe the main reason they spray is because global warming is a myth. You see if there is no warming then the carbon taxes will not be justified. The elite stand to gain trillions or loose trillions of dollars based on trying to sell "global warming". So it is my feeling (its only a feeling and no I can't back it up) that all this spraying is trapping the sun's heat, thus global warming. This the reason they spray everywhere regardless of population.

ahem... you mean 90% ARE CHEM-trails don't you! You may find the following link's very helpful.
http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangeda ... 4&x=0&p=14

http://chemtrails911.com/intro_to_chem.htm

http://educate-yourself.org/ct/

By the way they spray night AND day.
UNITED WE STAND

Lowsix, i read your many posts and you would think that you worked for the government. If you don't you would fit in quite nicely.

Hi welcome to the forums!

Accept the give and take, and difference of opinion as a good thing..
(and have a thick skin..and fight back..but make sure that you can back up what you say..and make sure you arent just taking the words of some fearmonger to make you points becuase I will destroy you with facts.)

But I'll say this:
When people say fucking RETARDED shit like...
"ahem... you mean 90% ARE CHEM-trails don't you! "

I will come out to play.

No..90% of all contrails seen in the sky are NOT fucking spray operations.
That is REALLY fucking stupid and simplistic and is NOT supported by any evidence other than SHEEP spouting the same fucking bullshit that Alex Jones and his group of clowns likes to keep vomiting down your vulnerable, gullible, fearful little gullets.

Now, before you get hysterical..recognize that I said that there ARE operations in place...but it is disingenous beyond ALL belief, and childish to keep insisting that 90% of the trails you see in the sky are coming from spraying.

Thats bullshit..

Those are condensate contrails.
There is science and real world physics in place that make them appear.
You really think every godamn plane is eqipped with spray nozzles..all commercial flights..everywhere? I mean thats what youre saying..

And where are the nozzles exactly? I flew in one this week..hmmm, I looked..and um.. no nozzles or poison spray refilling stations in sight..i did see ONE truck, clearly marked FUEL..with ONE hose going from that truck to our plane..matter of fact, i saw a whole fucking airport full of them..but nowhere did i find any spray nozzles or poison trucks whch would have to be HUGe to support ongoing operations in 90% of all commercial aircraft flights..

Im getting sick of the small-mindedness and inability of people to think for themselves about what they are claiming..you included.

And then claiming that the people that are able to work out the simple math required to realize that ITS NOT POSSIBLE are the stupid ones....what a brilliant tactic.

Ignore Scoence, common sense, probability and reason..
And go straight for the unfounded and untrue paranoia route..
Yeah you havent drank the koolaid..

Do you realize what it would take to put this operation into place in every single commercially flying aircraft? I dont think you do, becuase then youd realize what a stupid proposition it is that normal planes are the ones doing all the spraying.

Take this for example:
Do you know what sort of Volume of poison it would take, per plane to be able to even DREAM of an operation of that scope? Do you know how much liquid weighs? Considering the wings are filled with FUEL, where exactly does the Poison get loaded on all these commercial flights? does it sit down there with the baggage of the business class flyers? Well then it should be super easy to test that baggage fpr poisons right? Matter of fact, before you say that stupid shit one more time, Im going to have to insist that you have some commercial aircraft baggage tested for poison, becuase it would BE ALL OVER THE GODAMN place inside a spray plane..so you Tell Alex Joes to get his Crack Team of Scientists..im sure he has them (cuz thats how hes so sure about the TRUTH and all, right?)..to get out there and save us by testing some baggage so he can PROVE to the world that its going on everyday inside every commercial aircraft. Tell him its his DUTY..to test sucha simple feature to prove what hes saying is happening. Poisn would be all over every single piece of baggage, and clothing, and interior piece of cloth in a spraying plane.. DO IT..dare you...

It wont happen becuase its not true and those tests would bear that right out..

Ever hear alex suggesting that?

NO BECAUSE ITS NOT FUCKING HAPPENING AND THEY KNOW IT.
AND THEY KNOW TESTING..(o shit, actual procedures to follow..what???)
would PROVE THAT ITS A LIE. and thats a fucking fact ...jack.

Oh, and you might say, no thats not wher they put it..well ok then genius..where IS it stored loaded and sprayed from..i mean in the absence of actual spray nozzles of every plane ive been on in the last ten years..

Where exactly would people SIT on an airplane capable of spraying a full 90% of the time as you state? Bc it takes a mighty volume of liquid to coat the skies for an entire four hour flight..

Take for instance your average cropduster..
200 gallon payload..enough to spray lightly approx one section (640 acres)
This occurs in under an hour..
How much Volume of poison would it take for a spraying plane to operate for a four, six or 8 hour flight, at the volumes shown in photographcs?

Anyone take the time to figure out that common sense nugget?
Fuck no..they dont..but they DO spend lots of time screaming...
"ALL THE PLANES ARE SPRAYING ALL THE TIME"

Now think..just fucking think. Thats all im asking.
Not post links..ive seen the stupid links..I dont givea fuck about them.
I DO know that it is happening in places..and AT times..
But it is certainly not happening in every plane flying the sky..now get the fuck over it..

And again, still..welcome to the forum..and I mean that.

FIght me, if you disagree..
BUT, if you fight me on THIS one, you better be able to refute every item i put forward, or dont bother..

1. Where does the poison sit?
1a. How is it refilled..and you should interview some Plane refuelers, becuase if it was being loaded, theyd be sure to let you in on how they can tell the trucks apart (poison from fuel) since they are all marked FUEL..
2. How is it sprayed without spray nozzles?
3. Test the baggage for poisons which would CERTAINLY be found even in trace amounts.
4 test ALL of the interior cloth in a spray plane for poison residues..

Dont come back until you address these VERY VERY fucking real legitimate issues...
And tell me why these simple procedures havent ALREADY been done..since it would be SO easy to prove.

Till then, enjoy the ride here at disclose..have thick skin.
Have fun, fight like hell..but use reality to make your points!

And Nimamman..Im flattered. Although thats a really retarded comparison youre making.
People who can think, and use facts, and make a case against utter bullshit nonsense all work for the government? You are NOT the first waterhead to suggest that..Ill take it under advisement.

Actually, I make pretty pictures for a living..

Yes working for the government requires an education, the ability to use logic, recognize scence, and solve problems..without getting all hysterical and relying on conspiracy Utube videos to make arguments...
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Facts are important too..to many government workers, even if you dont think they are ..they are...

a friend of mine turned me on to the concept of "chemtrails " years ago , and bear with me , you have to remember your dealing with a guy with a sucky memory... but he told me it was a secret agenda by the air force , for weather control , I'm not sure what HARP is , but I'm guessing that's what he was talking about , @ low six , correct me if I'm wrong , but I think you mentioned that Barium and aluminum were a by product of jet fuel ? That is interesting , because last year , about this time there was a report about these toxins in the water tables down south and here in the valley , they weren't at dangerous levels , but high enough to cause concern , all I can say is , I don't know what chem /con trails are , depopulation , I don't think so , there is probably much more cost effective ways to do that , ( I mean, come on , most of the world are capitalist , gotta save a buck here and there if you can ) But , my oldest boy and I were walking to the store the other day , ( and we always throw around different concepts about UFO'S , chemtrails and such ) and I thought he brought up an interesting point , he said , " whatever happened to the hole in the ozone layer ? You never here anything about it anymore , what 'd they do fix it ? and not tell anyone ? Maybe some of this "spraying" is an attempt to block harmful ultra violet rays , to PROTECT the people of the earth and not the other way around , I thought that was a pretty cool observation, so I decided to throw it up on the table here and see what you folks thought ....

Yeah, yeah, the truth, whatever. Let these little goobers know that there are some chemical additives in the fuel that do cause for more persistant contrail, chemtrail, whatever these kids want to call them, that plus the other stuff you mentioned and there they have it all nice and pretty.

BTW Low6 welcome back, did you get some pics? and explain to Spock that you and I are not the same person, please, buggers gotten paranoid since you left.

Bink, yes ive heard that as a concept too..
meaning that using those metals as both a cleaning element and reflector..
Im more open to that than every plane spraying poison to kill us all off...
Its still contrails, instead of spray operations in that case..


Lol Roger that Eagan..i tried to tell the old farts that i was in Florida..but all that dope they smoked in the 70s-80s..you know..

And yes i got me some doozy pics..will post soon..
Florida is fucking gorgeous but filled with some of the most fucked up mix of people ive ever seen though...Im still a bit floored.

The racism we have in texas is AMATEUR hour compared to the shit down there...
christ..

"i speak the truth"
Thx for the laugh lowsix