CHI GONG EXORCISM - watch at your own risk.

Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:29 pm » by **Opair01**

Exorcism Christianity :

rated : :nails:

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Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:04 pm » by **Xxxbillxxx**

chi gong is real, but ive never seen it used on this......i heard chi gong is great to help those going through addiction.

Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:24 pm » by **Kolgoroth**

Nothing better than watching moronic humans prance around screaming about invisible spirits invading their bodies.

LOL!!!! Best entertainment on television!!!

Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:36 pm » by **Constabul**

Visit a Mental Institution, and you will see much the same, and worse.
No demons, or religion necessary.

Many use such conditions to further a religious agenda.
Psychology can explain almost all, if not all cases of such claims.

Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:41 pm » by **Opair01**

constabul wrote:Visit a Mental Institution, and you will see much the same, and worse.
No demons, or religion necessary.

Many use such conditions to further a religious agenda.
Psychology can explain almost all, if not all cases of such claims.

How do you explain this? :shock:

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Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:20 am » by **Constabul**

opair01 wrote:
constabul wrote:Visit a Mental Institution, and you will see much the same, and worse.
No demons, or religion necessary.

Many use such conditions to further a religious agenda.
Psychology can explain almost all, if not all cases of such claims.

How do you explain this?

[youtube]HmeWBQIE-Dg&feature[/youtube]

kinda reminds me of my nieces and nephews looking up "scary" videos on youtube.
You know if you go in the bathroom and turn the water on and turn the lights off while staring into the mirror and say bloody mary three times, your a tweenager.

come on man. really?

Guru Busters, about the campaign to eradicate superstition, religious fraud and quackery in India, provoked controversy with its vivid, occasionally disturbing, depiction of the work of leading Indian rationalist campaigners.Followers of the guru Satya Sai Baba attempted, unsuccessfully, to prevent the documentary being broadcast in South Africa and Australia, complaining about the film's use of previously suppressed video material that allegedly showed the guru using legerdemain trickery.

By viewing the video you provided, I see it as not much different then the video i just posted dealing with similar subjects,
and goes back to my original statements.

But wait a minute criss angel(mindfreak) has real powers, that you too can buy in a box set so you can have real power too..

Watch a penn and teller magic show sometime.
:ohno:

Nothing, by this bad quality video displays paranormal activity.
Am i discounting strange things in the universe we live in, No. There is indeed much we do not understand. ( not understanding, does not allow for labels to be set arbitrarily, such as demonic possession )
What I am discounting is Exorcisms, as they prey upon the mentally disturbed for the purpose of enforcing a primitive belief, based in superstition.

Trickery and illusions have been used in unison with such beliefs for 1000s of years, and continues to be.

Not saying this latest example even compares to that statement.

Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:02 am » by **Opair01**

constabul wrote:
opair01 wrote:
constabul wrote:Visit a Mental Institution, and you will see much the same, and worse.
No demons, or religion necessary.

Many use such conditions to further a religious agenda.
Psychology can explain almost all, if not all cases of such claims.

How do you explain this?

[youtube]HmeWBQIE-Dg&feature[/youtube]

kinda reminds me of my nieces and nephews looking up "scary" videos on youtube.
You know if you go in the bathroom and turn the water on and turn the lights off while staring into the mirror and say bloody mary three times, your a tweenager.

come on man. really?

Guru Busters, about the campaign to eradicate superstition, religious fraud and quackery in India, provoked controversy with its vivid, occasionally disturbing, depiction of the work of leading Indian rationalist campaigners.Followers of the guru Satya Sai Baba attempted, unsuccessfully, to prevent the documentary being broadcast in South Africa and Australia, complaining about the film's use of previously suppressed video material that allegedly showed the guru using legerdemain trickery.

By viewing the video you provided, I see it as not much different then the video i just posted dealing with similar subjects,
and goes back to my original statements.

But wait a minute criss angel(mindfreak) has real powers, that you too can buy in a box set so you can have real power too..

Watch a penn and teller magic show sometime.

Nothing, by this bad quality video displays paranormal activity.
Am i discounting strange things in the universe we live in, No. There is indeed much we do not understand. ( not understanding, does not allow for labels to be set arbitrarily, such as demonic possession )
What I am discounting is Exorcisms, as they prey upon the mentally disturbed for the purpose of enforcing a primitive belief, based in superstition.

Trickery and illusions have been used in unison with such beliefs for 1000s of years, and continues to be.

Not saying this latest example even compares to that statement.

Why am I always getting rote replies when it comes to this subject matter??? :scary:

You might wanna check this out.http://www.sifumasterkok.com/#!certificates
Its either he is such a genius "legerdemain trickster" OR those institutions especially ones in the US of A are just nuts.
:lol:

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Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:34 pm » by **Spock**

I'm still very intrigued about the original story behind the movie The Exorcist.

There are some cases I have heard that, if real, are truly baffling. You can strip all the religious connotations out of it and your still left with some outside force influencing someone and the environment around them. Whether this can be explained as telekinesis mixed with a mental disorder, I don't know, but it seems that some form of possession would be an even more likely explanation than that.

Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:18 pm » by **Constabul**

spock wrote:There are some cases I have heard that, if real, are truly baffling. You can strip all the religious connotations out of it and your still left with some outside force influencing someone and the environment around them. Whether this can be explained as telekinesis mixed with a mental disorder, I don't know, but it seems that some form of possession would be an even more likely explanation than that.

On a whole, I can not disagree. As it is largely, if not completely, unknown.
Tho once it is recognized there is something at work, and if mental disorders are not at fault, ( which i think is vary difficult to pin down, or rule out) then indeed one is left with a perplexing set of circumstances.
That, from there on, it is pure speculation. Whatever the real cause is, be it telepathy, trans dimensional forces, brainwashing, a ploy for attention, or any number of factors. I just am vary skeptical of Exorcisms, and usually with that comes a belief of some sort of religious dogma, that the exorcisms reinforce a belief system based in superstition .

So while I admit, me saying it is not that, is pure speculation from my opinion provided the information I have seen. It by no means, means it is not that. Additionally tho, it means that ones claims it is that, is just as speculative, tho from their stand point, all their experience and knowledge may say it is.

:ohno:

I think there is certianly room for exploration of these subjects, but I think it is a difficult process to get unbiased data from. As everyone brings a certain slant to the table.

I have mentioned before spock my opinions of the death process, and subsequent hauntings of the two types. Passive/repetitive and interactive/spontaneous.
And if any are interested, i will revisit those ideas here, but it is just my own opinion/ speculation, and in no way a "belief" I hold tenets in. Just an idea.

But I still hold to the idea, that skepticism in such subjects is a better stand point to be in, than one Looking for validation of a set of beliefs(religion) which is usually from the guise of happenstance while looking into the subject.

edit to add,

The Exorcist was a good movie, but so was One flew over the cuckoo's nest.

Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:43 am » by **Opair01**

Real Exorcism Anneliese Michel Video :shock:

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Real Exorcism Anneliese Michel Video

This is an extract of the actual exorcism of Anneliese Michel whose story inspired the movie Exorcism of Emily Rose. Anneliese was a Catholic girl from Germany who was possessed by six different demons. As a result she received treatment for presumed mental illness which merely made her troubles worse. Priests were then brought in to exorcise her but they were unable to permanently expel the demons. She died in 1976 as she was................

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