CHILD PORNAGRAPHY/its ok???

[Lucidlemondrop Profile]

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toro wrote
fossileyesed good rant. I also have loved ones who have suffered. My heart goes out to the victims. Anybody who victimizes another human being deserves punishment but someone who victimizes a child doesn't deserve to have the state feed and house them.
I totally support capital punishment in those cases or even better vigilantism

boondox681, rabbit, truthfiles and papermoon thanks for the post and all good points



bayonetta

what a silly little code

lucidlemondrop

Didn't know it to be a code, Bayonetta, but if you have the cipher please do share!

it aint worth it, laugh it off, if it dont apply let it fly

Thanks! I agree! I think all pedophiles should get the death penalty. Period. Doctors already realize they cannot reform them and make them normal, so what's the point. They deserve the death penalty.

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That's pretty!

[Iwanci Profile]

I must have missed the point on this topic… how did it go from body scanners to pedophiles? I will give my boring 2 cents worth on both topics.

The biggest issue on the body scanners IMO is not the pedophilic aspect, rather it is the taking away of civil liberties and human dignity, but why? Please read on.

If they can convince us that they are for our own good then we will accept them. These scanners are said to increase airline security, maybe they will, more eyes on more people will also achieve the same security increase, simple. But why the scanners?

Pedophiles: Unfortunately the creeps of society have been around us and our children in various hidden ways since before we even knew who or what these animals were, I think 1000’s of years, in some societies it was common and acceptable to have child sex workers, so at some stage these creeps behaviour was acceptable. Scanners will not exacerbate the problem, the problem manifests itself with or without scanners. We cannot prevent the scum of the earth from re-offending unless society does something more than the current system of placing a prison term on a crime. "Do the crime do the time" should not apply here, this system places a value on these crimes, as we all know these are not crimes they are abuses which are far worse than any crime, and no value can be placed on them. "Do the crime and you will never have the chance to repeat the same crime" should be the message. Unfortunately, I believe that rape and abuse statistics show that you are more likely to be abused or raped by someone you know and/or trust rather than some random person. The random animal does exist and does unfortunately rear its disgusting head, we hear about these cases in the press, it’s the ones we don’t hear about unfortunately that worry me the most, as most are never reported. I believe society should do more to protect the innocent. How about chemical castration? How about life in prison? How about both?

Last week here in Melbourne a convicted aggravated serial rapist, a know re-offender, an animal who was living in a secure house (under monitored supervision) was being escorted (by a prison officer) to a doctors appointment. Along the way the two decided that they should stop for a coffee at a café. The convicted rapist excused himself from the table whilst he went to the bathroom, sometime later the prison officer realized that the offender had absconded (like we have never seen this scenario in a movie? How dumb was the prison officer?) What made this worse was that this was not the first time the rapist had escaped from custody. Luckily they caught the scumbag a couple of days later, but what if this imbecile re-offended whilst he was out? So many questions that need to be asked on this case alone. These offenders also have the right to anonymity, they are afforded protection and a name change when they are let out of prison. The general public is not allowed to know where these people are now living. Does this sound like a fair society? Probably so if you are the offender.

Another story that made the press is that of a convicted child abuser who has sworn that she is craving to kill a child. She has served her prison sentence for her abuse crime and, although the judge fears for the safety of children, although the system acknowledges that she is very likely to re-offend, there is nothing they can do to keep her locked up. The problem is as much the system as the offender. Maybe hold the judges accountable if the criminals re-offend? Let's see how many will be let out if this was the case.

So, IMO, the link between the scanners and the pedophiles is much weaker, what we should be doing is questioning society’s answer to the pedophile issue per se.

With regards to the scanners, when was the last time someone hijacked a plane with explosives, and blew it up? Or took hostages with guns? These instances have happened but they are far and few in between. I do a lot of air travel, I must be honest, I often think… “if I was a terrorist, what could I use… hmmm, steel cutlery I notice a knife, a fork, a glass, a wine bottle, hmmm a bracelet with sharpened concealed edges, let’s face it, 9/11 hijackers had box cutters (apparently) not guns not explosives… so the big question here is why the hell do we need the scanners.. And also, if I was a terrorist and security at the airport was too much….hmmm why not an ocean liner? A bridge? A train? A petrol tanker on the ground could be just as lethal I imagine.. anyone seen any movies lately?

Yet again, i believe we need to follow the money for the answers. Let us look at the local supermarkets. Here in Oz we have a prolific growth of self serve scanners in our stores… what do these do? They afford us the consumer a time saving…hmmm they also save business big money. I believe the bigger intention with the airport scanners is to introduce them, get people used to them, then decrease the paid security force, this of course adds up to huge cost savings no more no less. I think that is as complicated as the agenda gets, and of course who is pushing for these, would it be perhaps the manufacturers of the scanners? Just look at how much additional money is being spent on airline security since 9/11 if I was in business I would be asking “how do I claw these costs back without making people feel less secure?

My opinion only of course.

[Toxic32 Profile]

The problem with these scanners is that they give a false sense of security, if you can't hide it on your body then hide it in your body you don't need much C4 plastic explosive to make a big bang (no pun intended)and it's easy to mold into any shape so that it can be inserted into body. So there's no point in doing a surface scan unless you do a full Xray scan as well? makes you think don't it,,,The next time you sit next to the women with the big breast you might get more than you bargained for.

[Iwanci Profile]

That's my point toxic, the false sense of security means they can then reduce security costs without the panic. As for the big breasts, i will need to be paying closer attention from now on, for my own safety of course!

[Toxic32 Profile]

I agree with you it's about cutting cost as well...Lets think about whats going on here? Like all new technology first you find a good reason to introduce it, make people scared is a good way, you know kill a few people, bomb them, poison them, then they will most likely beg you to put it in place. Once in place you can move on. Remember CCTV. It will stop crime? NO it doesn't it just moves it some other place, do they get rid of the camcorders NO, but it does give them a good way of keeping track of you anyway so lets keep them, Microchips, bar-codes, vaccines, satalight navigation, mobile phones, computers, and so, we all welcomed them with open arms. Need I say more? Anyway to get back to the scanners what other use can they be put to, think forward..In shops to make sure you don't steal something may be? full body search in police station? railway boarding areas, ships, or any place you board public transport thats next. Might have to blowup the odd bus, train, ship etc so that that sheep don't mind to much. (sounds like a good investment in the company that makes them????)

[whitedeath Profile]

Iwanci , thank you! I thought I was the only one here who couldn't understand the jump from something so serious to this.

fossileyesed , brave post! Just so you know you are not alone I am one like yourself in this regard. It's never easy to say but well done very brave.


Drabbit, I ask in total respect , are you here just to scare people? This IS NOT CHILD PORNOGRAPHY! im sure most of us here as kids had pics taken of us by our parents right? How many has an embarrassing picture of you in the bath naked?
So..then thats child pornography too? You're parents are paedophiles? ..think about what you are saying.
Sometimes, whether this security is needed or not, it's not as evil as you think!

[sockpuppet Profile]

Maybe I think too simply, but couldn't this be stopped if people boycotted the airlines? I am sure no one will really notice if just a few citizens decided not to fly just because of these machines, but what if we picked ONE airline and totally boycotted it? That would get the private industry fighting against the government, and at the same time get the government scrambling for new ways to make money via whatever aerospace is left.

Just a thought.