CONFIRMED ! Comet Elenin on SOHO

[Boondox681 Profile]

i gotta' roll with alternate on this one.

peace

[Will69ease Profile]

ok will...your word has always been good so i'll bite,
where is your info coming from?

peace bra

I clicked the link and read the update. At least nobody brought up that Nibiru crap again.
http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/gallery/ite ... ts&iid=154

Will, i love you to bits man, but you gotta see the irony in quoting nasa as your 'all will be ok for sure' statement, when every one of your amazing posts exposes nasa for the liars and information manipulators they truly are?!

Ironic isn't it? Actually, that leads me to this...
The article says "NASA rolled the spacecraft to take a look at it (Aug. 1, 2011) with its wide angle HI-2 instrument."
Why did they delete the photos from the site? I downloaded all the Stereo Hl-2 photos to make a gif, but the photos that have Elenin in them are missing.
By the way, looks like that satellite just got hit by a CME...

[Kkris Profile]

as an alcoholic of 30 years(sober 7) i've learned one thing...
i am not the master of the universe and it makes no sense worrying about things i have no control over.

have a nice one.
peace

AMEN!

As an alcoholic for 32 years and sober for one, I still say I'd sooner have a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy. Praise the Lord and pass the worry by.

[Slamgunshark Profile]

Worried About Comet Elenin? FAQs from Ian Musgrave

http://www.universetoday.com/87619/worr ... -musgrave/


Orbit of Comet C/2010 X1 Elenin (red) visualised with Celestia, showing Elenin at closest approach to Earth. Image courtesy of Ian Musgrave

Will Comet Elenin Hit Earth?: No, its closest approach is 0.23 AU on Oct 16, 2011, where 1 AU is the distance from the Earth to the Sun. To put this in perspective, this is only a little closer than the closest approach of Venus to Earth, and roughly 100 times the distance from the Earth to the Moon. This distance is from the latest MPEC ephemeris which is based on over 100 observations from multiple observatories that have been continuously tracking the comet, so it won’t change appreciably.

Surely if Elenin Was Going to Hit the Earth NASA/the Government Would Hush it Up? Which government? The Australian Government, the UK Government? The Italian Government? The South African Government? Amateur astronomers world wide are following this comet and continually talking to each other. The have the programs to work out where the comet is going. If the comet was coming anywhere near us, the amateur community would be first to know, and there is no keeping them quite. Consider how wide spread the information is about Apophis, which is a real, if extremely marginal, hazard.

Will it Cause Earthquakes, Abnormally High Tides or Other Disasters: No, Elenin is a mere 3-5 kilometres across and has less than a billionth of the tidal force of the Moon at closest approach (as well as a negligible magnetic field). If the Moon can’t cause the poles to tip, cause massive tidal floods or earthquakes, Comet 2010 X1 Elenin won’t. We’ve been closer to other comets before with no ill effect.

But What About Mensur Omerbashich’s Paper that Says Elenin is Causing Earthquakes? It shows nothing of the sort, earthquakes are no more common during comet alignments than at any other time.

But it’s bigger than Jupiter! No, that’s the coma , the thin haze of gas and dust that surrounds the comet nucleus. The nucleus of C/2010 X1 Elenin is roughly 3-4 Km in diameter and Elenin has a coma around 50,000 km wide at the time of writing (which is a third of the diameter of Jupiter). The average density of the coma is about the same as the density of the atmosphere on the Moon. A coma is a feature of all comets that approach the Sun closely, for example comet 81P Wild (nucleus 4 Km diameter) had a coma of 50,000 Km and 103P Hartley had a coma of 150,000 Km. The Great Comet of 1811 had a nucleus of around 30km in diameter and had a coma nearly as big as the Sun. Comet Halley is 6×15 km and had a coma 100,000 km wide when it last approached Earth. We survived them all (and 103P Hartley came nearly twice as close as Elenin will), and we will survive Elenin without incident.

But I Can See a Picture of it in WikiSky, it’s HUGE! That is the carbon star CW Leonis.

Is Elenin a Moon of a Brown Dwarf Star? No.

But Brown Dwarf Stars are so Cold, you Can’t See Them. No, coldest detected so far is ~370K (about the temperature of a hot cup of tea), the the warmest are around 2200 K, and most range between 500-1000 K. They may not produce much visible light, but they reflect light. Jupiter has a composition similar to those of Drown Dwarf stars. Jupiter’s cloud tops are a chilly 128 K and it reflects light just fine. Any Brown Dwarf in the inner solar system would be painfully obvious.

Will Going Through the Comets Tail Affect Us? No, should the rather small tail of Elenin actually pass over us, it’s doing a pretty good imitation of a vacuum (about 100 atoms per cm3). We have been through bigger and denser comet tails before with no effect whatsoever (especially the Great Comet of 1861).

Why isn’t Comet Elenin in the News? For the same reason that the other 16 comets discovered in 2010 didn’t get in the news, or the 5 comets discovered in 2011. They are all dim. The News is only interested in comets that are spectacular, readily visible to the unaided eye or are being visited by spacecraft. Comet 2009 P1 will be as bright, if not brighter than C/2010 X1 Elenin, but that’s not in the news either. Amateur and professional astronomers are watching comet Elenin and others avidly, but the news channels don’t care about our obsessions with faint fuzzies.

Why Can’t I Find Information of Elenin at the NASA Website? Because NASA is not the arbiter of all things astronomical. You won’t find information on C/2009 P1, C/2011 C1 or any of the faint comets discovered during 2010 and 2011. NASA does have information of comets that its spacecraft have visited, or are interesting in some other way, but it’s not an exhaustive comet site like Cometography or Aerith.

(editor’s note, NASA and JPL’s Near Earth Object Office did publish an article about Comet Elenin in May, 2011, which can be found at this link, confirming it will safely fly past Earth.)

I Saw Comet Elenin Near the Sun in August 2010/Now: In August 2010 only really powerful telescopes could see Elenin. You saw Venus. If you are seeing something bright near the Sun in the morning sky now, it’s Venus.

How Can I Tell What IS in the Sky and Avoid The Venus Confusion? For freeware standalone programs there is Cartes du Ciel and Stellarium (my favourite). For Web based solutions Skyview Cafe, Sky-Map and GoogleEarth (KMZ file here) all work.

Where Can I Find Orbital Elements for Celestia or Stellarium? Here.

Where Can I Find Images of Elenin? Here, and here and a nice image of C/2010 X1 near to NGC 3376 is here.

I have Photographed/ Seen a Photograph of a Double Sun, is this Elenin? It’s lens flare.

get an education on space physics everyone.

[Ramseye Profile]

If you go to the JPL site and take a look at the orbit diagram closely http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=elenin;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb, you will see that Elenin will not come anywhere close enough to pose a risk to the Earth...

So why all the hype?

I don't think there will be a problem with debris from the tail either. We may get a little light show if anything.

[SUKHOV Profile]

But like a fifty caliber bullet racing past your flesh at supersonic speed, will this affect us at all, even if minutely?

[Evildweeb Profile]

Let's face it guys and gals, NASA and "others" have ALL of the celestial imaging equipment. For instance, there ain't no PBS probe or Fox News Probe out there.

So I hafta say that we are only being told about 2% of what is really going on. If THAT'S true, then elenin is most likely science hype, and imho, the story itself is to hide something else going on out there --- or at the least to divert our attention from something else going on out there.

I would be willing to bet they have already located something heinous out there, most likely heading our way, and you won't even see it until right before it enters the atmosphere.

[Slamgunshark Profile]

Let's face it guys and gals, NASA and "others" have ALL of the celestial imaging equipment. For instance, there ain't no PBS probe or Fox News Probe out there.

So I hafta say that we are only being told about 2% of what is really going on. If THAT'S true, then elenin is most likely science hype, and imho, the story itself is to hide something else going on out there --- or at the least to divert our attention from something else going on out there.

I would be willing to bet they have already located something heinous out there, most likely heading our way, and you won't even see it until right before it enters the atmosphere.

actually you wouldn't see it at all. at the most you would see a bright light for a fraction of a second, but nothing coming into the atmosphere.

but I believe it's fear mongering all together, this just applies to a real dangerous situation.