control Freaks take over Farmers Market

Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:58 pm » by **Drjones**

Is this legit ?

Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:27 pm » by **Strobez**

Is this for real, can they really patent the name organic, quiet unbeleivable and shocking

Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:19 pm » by **Chronicnerd**

They can own a copyright on a name/word if it is "useful" to the government. This is why you can't use the words:

NSA
FBI
CIA
United States Federal Government
United States Commission
U.S. NAVY
U.S. Army
U.S. Marines
and evidently...they grabbed "Organic"...for the FDA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_status_of_work_by_the_U.S._government
The question is that can a term as common as "Organic" be used by the Government to control/regulate the sale of food...

This is most definitely a constitutional lawyer's place to answer this question... but on the surface it looks to be "legit" based on the rules of copyrights and trademarks.

They aren't making money on the name, but they are requiring a form of "documentation/certification" to use the word "organic"... which...and I am not a lawyer...appears to not be in any form of violation of law specific to copyrighting a word/name.

This is something that should be better defined in what the government can do with a copyright on a word/name as well as the extents of their control over the use of said word/name.

Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:08 pm » by **Stratosfear**

That's downright strange, I have to say. I had a look around the interweb and it seems you can't copyright a common English word (unless it's in a logo or something). However, how things work in America I don't know. But it's ridiculous.

Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:20 am » by **Harbin**

drjones wrote:Is this legit ?

4409 is great, He really knows how to stir some shit !

Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:18 am » by **Drjones**

If you just check out the wikipedia page on 'organic' it's insane.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_certification

In December 2005, the 2006 agricultural appropriations bill was passed with a rider allowing 38 synthetic ingredients to be used in organic foods. Among the ingredients are food colorings, starches, sausage and hot-dog casings, hops, fish oil, chipotle chili pepper, and gelatin. This allowed Anheuser-Busch in 2007 to have its Wild Hop Lager certified organic "even though [it] uses hops grown with chemical fertilizers and sprayed with pesticides. :help:

Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:32 am » by **Gonzo63**

Good Lord, this is disgusting. If we all band together to destroy just ONE corporation, it should be Monsanto. Wtf are we supposed to eat? We are literally one step away from Soylent Green.

Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:34 am » by **Svaha**

I don't think it's a hoax, also I don't think they have to 'own' the name organic to make laws that will make the life of a small organic farmer 'hell' and to make organic farms disappear, go default.

Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:48 am » by **Svaha**

drjones wrote:If you just check out the wikipedia page on 'organic' it's insane.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_certification

In December 2005, the 2006 agricultural appropriations bill was passed with a rider allowing 38 synthetic ingredients to be used in organic foods. Among the ingredients are food colorings, starches, sausage and hot-dog casings, hops, fish oil, chipotle chili pepper, and gelatin. This allowed Anheuser-Busch in 2007 to have its Wild Hop Lager certified organic "even though [it] uses hops grown with chemical fertilizers and sprayed with pesticides.

Small farmers in the us should leave this bull shit standard organic, because it's not organic at all, instead they could use this :

the private farmer-to-farmer association, Certified Naturally Grown, offers a "non-profit alternative eco-labelling program for small farms that grow using USDA Organic methods but are not a part of the USDA Certified Organic program."

because what comes from big government is always under the influence of big corporations. The same we see /saw in the herb / homeopathy 'business'.

Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:40 pm » by **Nakchopoe**

somehow I tend to say this is a good development.
I'm starting to think we really need to get way more down and dirty to rise again.
And I'm quite convinced (but not totally sure) that mankind still possesses the ability to crawl back up. To finally, after we've almost reached the Soylent Green stage, realise they are getting fcked everyday and to rise up against it.

Or, like Terence McKenna said it nicely:
We have to get almost choked in the birth canal to finally get born for real.
http://www.disclose.tv/forum/terence-mckenna-birth-of-consciousness-t54630.html