Crop Circles an obvious hoax

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PostWed Jan 30, 2013 3:28 am » by Phoenix rising


Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.

How many times have we seen documentary's where students from supposed 'great universities' have done lots of research have tried to replicate these circles, i'm telling you doug and dave do a better job, there so crude its unreal compared to what we see, sure humans make some but its wishful thinking to think we make all of them
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PostWed Jan 30, 2013 3:35 am » by *WillEase*


Phoenix rising wrote:Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.

How many times have we seen documentary's where students from supposed 'great universities' have done lots of research have tried to replicate these circles, i'm telling you doug and dave do a better job, there so crude its unreal compared to what we see, sure humans make some but its wishful thinking to think we make all of them


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PostWed Jan 30, 2013 4:20 am » by Opalserpent


I'm not going to argue with Willease666 on this one but I do think we should have an open mind.

Some of those crop circles are bs complicated, it's hard to imagine how they could be recreated overnight in

the dark with simple tools and leave no evidence of their presence, I mean hoaxers that is.

No foot prints, left behind accidental tools, forensic evidence zero.

Not even cigarette buts or roaches or beer cans, those hoaxers are very boring.

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PostWed Jan 30, 2013 5:36 am » by Seahawk


Come on guys. Don't get so upset about an opinion. Will's just stating his opinion like the rest of you.

Don't worry about the title. A title doesn't validate or negate the legitimacy of an opinion. So, chill.

It's an opinion. Just like Greg Jeffrey's, below. It doesn't make him right, either.

No proof. Opinion. :flop:


Crop Circles Are No Hoax, Concludes Historian After Studying Google Earth's New 1945 Overlay (PICTURES)

Posted: 29/01/2013 11:59 GMT | Updated: 29/01/2013 13:55 GMT


Crop circles dating back to 1945 are proof the phenomenon is no modern hoax, a Tasmanian historian claims.

The mystery of the increasingly intricate patterns was supposedly solved after several high-profile cases were revealed to be the work of artists and mischief-makers armed with barrels, planks of wood and plenty of spare time.

Credit for the hoaxes has been laid largely at the feet of pranksters Dave Chorley and Doug Bower, who in 1991 announced they had been pulling the wool over people’s eyes since 1978.

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A crop circle in Halesowen. Greg Jefferys estimates this one to be about ten meters in diameter. He points out the shadow on its south east perimeter corresponds precisely with the shadows cast by the trees and hedges and that the quality of the image is high enough to show there are no tracks through the grain crop leading to or from the crop circle

(FYI, crop circles have also been blamed on unusual weather patterns, top secret military experiments and, er, stoned wallabies.)

But research by Greg Jefferys has revealed evidence of the strange circles in the English countryside at least 33 years before Chorley and Bower took credit for the phenomena – which until then had been attributed to UFOs and alien activity.

Jefferys, who has a degree in archaeology, was prompted to research the matter after reading a report on crop circles in an 1880 edition of the science journal Nature.

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Jefferys is about to embark on a PhD in crop circles at the University of Tasmania

The 59-year-old’s research focuses on images from Google Earth’s new 1945 overlay, which Jefferys studied for more than 300 hours.

The overlay is a series of photos taken towards the end of World War II by the RAAF and comprises around 35% of the 1945 overlay of England presently available online.

Jefferys points out the material available does not include acknowledged crop circle “hotspots” around Wiltshire.

In a research paper emailed to Huffington Post UK Jefferys writes:

“Using aerial photographs primarily from the Google Earth 1945 overlay, that the number of crop circles appearing each summer has been relatively constant for at least the last 70 years and that these crop circles cannot be explained by the ‘hoax theory’. This removal of the validity of the hoaxer’s claims means that crop circles remain an unexplained natural phenomenon deserving of serious investigation by academic institutions and other research organisations.”


Jefferys, who has previously used aerial photography to successfully locate shipwrecks, points out there have been reports of crop circles in the English countryside as far back as 300 years before the period the hoaxers began their work.

In his research Jefferys acknowledges the existence of flaws on the film caused by chemical or mechanical damage to the film on which the 1945 aerial snaps were taken and has taken these into account.

In summary, he says careful examination of the presently available images has yielded 64 shapes that were possible crop circles.

Using a process of elimination to recognise flaws in the negatives, Jefferys selected 13 which conformed strictly to his criteria. (Scroll down to view some of his evidence.)

He concludes:

"The number of circular features that can be reasonably confirmed as crop circles that have been so far found in the survey of the currently available 1945 Google Earth overlay numbers about one dozen. As this survey did not include more than 35% of England and excluded the known crop circle 'hot spots' around Wiltshire the findings are consistent with an annual occurrence of around 100 crop circles across the English countryside in 1945. This, combined with a significant body of historic records describing crop circles, gives the lie to the claims made by various to be the originators and creators of all crop circles. This in turn begs the question 'If not them, then who or what is responsible for the creation of crop circles?'"


Read the rest, and see associated photos at the following Huffington link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/29/crop-circles--no-hoax-historian-google-earth-new-1945-overlay_n_2572524.html



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PostWed Jan 30, 2013 5:57 am » by just_the_flu


Seahawk wrote:Come on guys. Don't get so upset about an opinion. Will's just stating his opinion like the rest of you.




theories are theories... and with out solid proof, its all interesting.......




thats why were all here :D


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PostWed Jan 30, 2013 8:29 am » by Iwanci


God post ..

they are NOT all man made... sometimes women help out too....


The FACT is that just because you do not understand how something could have been made does not mean that an alien or a spirit made it... it just means that you don't understand how it was made..

A magician rarely if ever reveals his magic, just because a he can make a person disappear in front of your eyes, does not mean he is an alien...


But as a way of artictic expression, the people that make these circles should be parised.. maybe an awards ceremony for the best crop circles?

CCA - Crop Circle Awards... '.... and the winner is.......'
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PostWed Jan 30, 2013 9:56 am » by *WillEase*


Iwanci wrote:God post ..

they are NOT all man made... sometimes women help out too....


The FACT is that just because you do not understand how something could have been made does not mean that an alien or a spirit made it... it just means that you don't understand how it was made..

A magician rarely if ever reveals his magic, just because a he can make a person disappear in front of your eyes, does not mean he is an alien...


But as a way of artictic expression, the people that make these circles should be parised.. maybe an awards ceremony for the best crop circles?

CCA - Crop Circle Awards... '.... and the winner is.......'


God post? :twisted:
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PostWed Jan 30, 2013 10:01 am » by Iwanci


oops... lost an 'o'.. not the first time...

mean to say... GOOD post :flop:
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PostWed Jan 30, 2013 4:03 pm » by Phoenix rising


WillEase666 wrote:
Phoenix rising wrote:Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.

How many times have we seen documentary's where students from supposed 'great universities' have done lots of research have tried to replicate these circles, i'm telling you doug and dave do a better job, there so crude its unreal compared to what we see, sure humans make some but its wishful thinking to think we make all of them


Get real. I suggest you check out the link on the previous page about snow circles.


That's pretty lame will, can you plait and weave snow to like you can with crop circles? people believe in God without a shred of evidence so lets put it this way, i have faith in the truth of crop circles and at least we have viable physical evidence to contend with.
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PostWed Jan 30, 2013 11:50 pm » by Iwanci


People believe in god without evidence has nothing to do with crop circles... people believing in anything has nothing to do with crop circles...

So maybe there are a few circles that cannot be explained... there are things that some men do that blow your mind and if you don't know 'how' it looks incredible...


Personally, I take my 'belief' in a topic when I see the evidence 'for' the creation.. simply because something cannot be explained does NOT provide the evidence, it simply tells me that it cannot (yet) be explained.

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Argument from ignorance, also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam or "appeal to ignorance" (where "ignorance" stands for: "lack of evidence to the contrary"), is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false, it is "generally accepted" (or vice versa). This represents a type of false dichotomy in that it excludes a third option, which is that there is insufficient investigation and therefore insufficient information to prove the proposition satisfactorily to be either true or false. Nor does it allow the admission that the choices may in fact not be two (true or false), but may be as many as four, (1) true, (2) false, (3) unknown between true or false, and (4) being unknowable (among the first three).[1] In debates, appeals to ignorance are sometimes used to shift the burden of proof.
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