Curiosity's Curious Anomalies Thread

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PostWed Aug 15, 2012 7:36 pm » by *WillEase*


Seahawk100 wrote:Click on the arrows, and it takes you to photos of those two places. Just a mistake in the programming, I imagine.


I've never been to either place so I don't know what I am looking for. Could you get a screen shot?

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PostWed Aug 15, 2012 8:22 pm » by *WillEase*


Oh I see now. Click the arrow and it takes you to a panorama of New Mexico. My guess, they are promoting their variety of images.

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However, take a look at what I found...
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This actually is from Vallecito, New Mexico. It does look similar.
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?s=

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PostWed Aug 15, 2012 8:35 pm » by The57ironman


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PostWed Aug 15, 2012 9:34 pm » by Elnorel


Don't hold your breath.

NASA will not make any mistake this time around as they ALWAYS first release Low-res pics into the public, just to gauge their reactions and for conspiracy nuts to run their image softwares on it so they can ALWAYS dispute the claims with any released High-res pictures later.

Call it a fail-safe.
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PostThu Aug 16, 2012 12:40 am » by Webhead


well i was looking at that 360 piccy thing and for some weird reason i was thinking i could see a road,now this thread has really got me thinking , anyway surely some americans can go and try and spy out there and see if they can find it ,imagine if they did come n you mexicans go find with your cameras and see if you can find a rover pretending to be on mars.

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PostThu Aug 16, 2012 4:16 am » by Kinninigan


First of all for those who think these pics where taken in New Mexico..... :owned:


Every nation around the world has access to every single land mass on Earth. Do you think after the moon hoax NASA wouls be so stupid as to do this in New Mexico...

Even Iran could call this hoax with there Russian launched satelites...













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PostThu Aug 16, 2012 6:07 am » by Constabul


Kinninigan wrote:First of all for those who think these pics where taken in New Mexico..... :owned:


Every nation around the world has access to every single land mass on Earth. Do you think after the moon hoax NASA wouls be so stupid as to do this in New Mexico...

Even Iran could call this hoax with there Russian launched satelites...












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PostThu Aug 16, 2012 8:02 am » by Seahawk


I'm holding a belief that there is, in fact, a Mars rover called Curiosity on Mars. :flop:

If that weren't true, it would be one of the lowest and cruelest tricks ever played on mankind. Our government would never do that to us. :nope: :wink:

At any rate, I do believe that there is a real rover on Mars, but it is cool how much Mars landscape so closely resembles some of our own earthly desert settings.



Mars Resemblance to the Mojave Desert

August 15, 2012 by michael gordon

As soon as the first images from the Mars rover Curiosity were beamed back to earth on August 6, comparisons to the Mojave Desert immediately began flying:

“Curiosity and the Mojave Desert of Mars“

“Curiosity Surveys a Martian Mojave Desert“

“Mars Landscape Looks Similar To California’s Mojave Desert“

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These revelations were no surprise to NASA scientists, the U.S. Military, and others who have observed and used for decades the Mojave Desert’s similarities to other landscapes. Although I have yet to set foot on the moon or Mars, I’ve often found myself in such similarly desolate and austere locales throughout the California desert.

When I first viewed the black and white image from Curiosity - seen here at top left – I swore that I had previously seen and photographed this landscape with my own eyes. That is, not in a broad “looks-like-the-Mojave” kind of way, but right down the to the same terrain and distant land forms. I knew I had “been to Mars” before Curiosity, so I went archive digging and turned up at least one eerie similarity (seen below the NASA photo). The only evident dissimilarity of these landscapes is created by water: Given a little rain, I can visualize Martian valleys full of blooming lupine and creosote.

I’ve included one additional photo at bottom left. Mars? Mojave? How much difference there really is will likely come to be known in the weeks and months ahead.

http://michaelegordon.wordpress.com/2012/08/15/mars-resemblance-to-the-mojave-desert/


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PostThu Aug 16, 2012 9:35 am » by Rich316


Not sure about this video but perhaps someone a little more versed on these topics can post their thoughts??


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PostThu Aug 16, 2012 9:42 am » by Seahawk


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With its seven minutes of terror and a spectacular rocket-assisted landing behind it, the SUV-sized Mars rover Curiosity now finds itself just where scientists wanted it: at the northern edge and rim of Gale Crater. What’s remarkable is how familiar the landscape looks.

“You would really be forgiven for thinking that NASA was trying to pull a fast one on you, and we actually put a rover out in the Mojave Desert and took a picture,” said project scientist John Grotzinger during a press conference.

Curiosity has begun its expedition near a fan-shaped apron of sediment called an alluvial fan, which likely formed when liquid water spilled down the side of Gale Crater, through a network of valleys, and onto the crater floor. Adjacent to the alluvial fan and quite near the rover, there is also an intriguing, light-colored “high thermal inertia” deposit with rocks that retain heat well. (Click here for a map that shows the locations of the rover and the deposit, and click here for one that shows the alluvial fan. Many of the latest images related to Curiosity's mission are here.)

Visitors to Badwater Basin area in California’s Death Valley National Park might see similarities in the images Curiosity has been sending home. The Badwater Basin is dense with alluvial fans like the one in Gale Crater. The alluvial fans in Death Valley are produced by occasional, intense storms that send storm water rushing down canyons in the otherwise arid slopes of the Panamint and Amargosa mountain ranges.

In the image above, captured in 2002 by the Advanced Land Imager on NASA’s Earth Observing-1 (EO-1) satellite, numerous alluvial fans are visible. Water has transported tan sediment from the mountains (far right), depositing it in the series of fan-shaped patterns near the center of the image.

This part of Death Valley shares other characteristics with Martian landscapes, and the area has long been a favorite for scientists planning for Mars landing sites. Wind, volcanism, and alternating wet and dry conditions have left similar marks on the rocks of both Mars and the Mojave Desert. The dark patch north of the largest alluvial fan has even been called Mars Hill for decades due to similarities to the rocks observed at the Viking 1 landing site from the 1970s. Mars Hill is the toe of an old alluvial fan, comprised of basaltic cobbles and gravels that stick out of the overlying, younger sediments.

The salt pan on the left is another feature that makes this part of Death Valley interesting to Mars researchers. Badwater Basin and Gale Crater are both enclosed basins with no outflows, so the water flowing into them would form temporary lakes and eventually salt flats after the water evaporates.

Of course, there are also major differences between the geology of Death Valley and Gale Crater. “Death Valley is a much younger and more dynamic place than Gale Crater, ” explained Aaron Zent, a planetary scientist at NASA’s Ames Research Center. “The valley floor is still sinking relative to the surrounding ranges, and more and more sediment is brought in, producing a sedimentary sequence that is mostly buried, with just a bit of salt on top. At Gale, the sediments, of whatever origin, are on top of the original crater floor and extensive salts, if present, are on the bottom and buried. If young, they may have been eroded and redistributed by the wind.”

References
Anderson, R. (2010). Geomorphology of the Proposed MSL Field Site in Gale Crater (Powerpoint). Accessed August 15, 2012.
Anderson, R. (2010, September 14). Geologic Mapping and Characterization of Gale Crater and Implications for Its Potential as a Mars Science Laboratory Site. Mars.
Los Angeles Times. (2012, August 8). Curiouser and Curiouser: Earth-like Terrain in Mars Rover Images. Accessed Aug. 15, 2012.
Nature News Blog. (2012, August 7). After the Fall, Curiosity Plans its First Move. Accessed Aug. 15, 2012.
Scientific American. (2012, August 6) Ready to Rove: Curiosity Project Scientist Lays Out Mars Tour Plans. Accessed Aug. 15, 2012.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=78860


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