David Icke-The moon 'matrix'

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David Icke Says the Moon is Artificial and Now ...
The Multiplying Mystery of Moonwater

'That's because we thought, until recently, that the Moon was just about the driest place in the solar system. Then reports of moonwater started "pouring" in – starting with estimates of scant amounts on the lunar surface, then gallons in a single crater, and now 600 million metric tons distributed among 40 craters near the lunar north pole.

"We thought we understood the Moon, but we don't," says Paul Spudis of the Lunar and Planetary Institute. "It's clear now that water exists up there in a variety of concentrations and geologic settings. And who'd have thought that today we'd be pondering the Moon's hydrosphere?"'

"It's a different world up there," says Spudis, "and we've barely scratched the surface. Who knows what discoveries lie ahead?"'

How about that it's a construct?

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2010 ... list144269

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I remember reading somewhere a while back that there was this native american tribe with information passed through there generations in reference to no moon here near earth.

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I remember reading somewhere a while back that there was this native american tribe with information passed through there generations in reference to no moon here near earth.

Interesting comment that i intend to investigate.

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I remember reading somewhere a while back that there was this native american tribe with information passed through there generations in reference to no moon here near earth.

Interesting comment that i intend to investigate.

i also said that months ago , can i have my candy ? :p

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I remember reading somewhere a while back that there was this native american tribe with information passed through there generations in reference to no moon here near earth.

Interesting comment that i intend to investigate.

i also said that months ago , can i have my candy ? :p

No.

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Just like to say there is a book on amazon.co.uk from 2007
'Who built the moon'?

The moon has confounded scientists for many years. It does not obey the known rules of astrophysics and there is no theory of its origin that explains the known facts - in fact it should not really be there.

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I wonder if he got this information from the voices in his head, main thing to note is that the book is sold as fiction..........so it tells you right from the start that its nothing but fantasy.

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I wonder if he got this information from the voices in his head, main thing to note is that the book is sold as fiction..........so it tells you right from the start that its nothing but fantasy.

Who knows m8...welcome back!

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Hello....

If there is anything on the moon, us humans put it there.
I believe the so called "ufo" is an invention by Nikola Tesla, not by ETs..



..It's better you do your own reading and research with this material i'm linking here, than me explaining it to you too much, since i'm no expert on electrical engineering.



William Lyne has writen few books on his research on flying saucers, and according to his material, which has convinced me, flying saucers would be based on Nikola Tesla's discoveries an inventions.
William Lyne's books can be found on amazon .com, including his Pentagon Aliens, which i higly recomend.


According to this material, flying saucers work on electricity, using AC-current on the other end of the craft, DC-current on the other end, pulsing in certain frequencies, manipulating the ether-medium (sub-atomic particles) and so giving the craft it's abilities ...so, if this is true flying saucers/ufos would be man made, no aliens involved.

The AC and DC discharges, same way as HAARP (ionospheric heaters), ionize the atmospheric gases,creating plasma and making it glow in various colours (and intensity) around the craft, according to how much power/voltage is being used.

Tesla's inventions were first used by Nazi Germany in their Foo Fighters in the 1920-30's. After WW II the Flyingsaucer projects moved over to USA and were headed by Werner Von Braun, the same guy who was in charge of the projects earlier in Germany.

The Nazis also started spreading propaganda, that the Thule and Vril-societies "channeled" the info to build these crafts (working on "vril-power") from some alien "nordics".This propaganda has today taken a reptilian/grey form.
The vril-myth is taken out of Edward Bulwer-Lytton's book; The Coming Race. In the book, the vril is described to be an "all-permeating fluid", which, more commonly or in our scientific terms is known as; ether or luminiferous ether.


The flyingsaucer technology has been hidden from the public by the world's money elite, also known as the Illuminati; Oil-, motor-,avition-, trasportation- and energy companies an dso on..and bankers.
It has been kept from us for atleast 70 years. Since then our enviroment has been destroyed as well as people's health all over the world..pollution, poverty and hunger.

According to some people, Tesla also discovered away to derive free enviromental energy, for your everyday household needs, and wanted to give his inventions and discoveries to the whole world, for the benefit of whole mankind, but strangely the global money elite said NO!

Now Tesla's papers and patents are illegally held from public and kept somewhere in the USA.


ALIENS VISITING EARTH ...Ancient or not.


If there really was "ancient aliens" visiting our planet and teaching our ancestors on astronomy etc., like the Maya-ufologists theorize ..why were the other planets called WANDERING STARS???!!!! ..answer me that, please ..with linked sources if you can, please ..cause if extra terrestrials visiting Earth in 3000bc couldn't tell the PLANET Venus from a STAR (sun), you know.. i find this abit odd, how about you?
If mr. ancient reptilian alien flew to planet Earth and passed the other planets, why did they teach us that these planets are STARS? The aliens couldn't tell the difference between the SUN (a star) and a PLANET?!

For the Maya or the Aztec Venus was Chak Ek or Noh Ek ..Ek meaning; a star ..well, according to these Maya-ufologists the aliens visited the ancient mesoamericans and taught them on astronomy, on galactic things ..but Venus prolly was a star back then, ay?! ...very convincing in deed isn't it..


...the same goes with the Flat Earth or other Earth centric assumptions ..if ETs or gods were really talking to man, why did they teach so poorly on astronomy or couldn't tell a planet from a star? ..and if these "teachers" were supposedly ETs, they should've have passed the other PLANETS and notice these don't radiate the same way as the sun...
..and if these "teachers" would have been TRUE gods, wouldn't have they known at the time what they had created ..a planet or a star(sun)?

So please explain this to me ..why were the other planets wrongly thought to be as STARS?

(REPEATING MYSELF ABIT HERE, SORRY ..MAYBE CAUSE IT BAFFLES ME SO...) ..lol.

..my theory is that these "spirits" who communicated to our ancestors and to theses "spirit channels" today are just discarnate human spirts ...just humans. And this is why the astronomy information is so flawed ..it is from "Earth perspective"= seen from Earth ...and who are the spirits who inhabit the Earths "spirit realms/dimensions" = "dead" humans, your dead relatives and no one else.


I see the universe/kosmos as multidimensional = first there is this 3D physical dimension, our 3D world, and when we die we continue living on this planet's "spirit dimensions", on this planets' etheric-/sub-atomic dimension(s) ...think of the (multi dimensional)Earth as an onion with it's hearth (3d Earth) + with it's "etheric dimensions", the layers ...and the same goes for the rest of the kosmos; there is the seed = 3D physical core dimension + the etheric/sub-atomic layers ...this is pretty much a "fractal theory" on the structure of our kosmos/universe

..or it could be "layered" as electromagnetic field-dimension occupying the "same space" ..= not onion like layers, but in the same space, separated by particle size and vibrational frequency ...it's pretty much the same theory ..the kosmos only looks abit different between the two models here ..but there's still space/distance between the celestial bodies, so even "in heaven" you'd still need a space ship to travel to the moon, see?


..and this theory would explain why the "heavenly information" is so full of errors ..cause it was "channeled down" from "heaven" by human-"gods". "Gods" who never had left this planet, nor did they create it or any other celestial/planetary bodies ..they looked (and still do) at the kosmos from the same point of origin as the 3d humans, from this planet ...so, this is why the "WANDERING STARS"-teachings.


...there are no aliens visiting this planet. The abusing "astral aliens" are discarnate human spirits.




Here are some links to Tesla and Lyne material:

To get to know what ether-medium is:

Luminiferous aether
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_theories

The World (Descartes)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_(Descartes)


A summary of Tesla's statements on his electro-craft
http://pritchardschool.com/Teslas_Flying_Machine.pdf

Writings on and by Tesla on his inventions ..on some he talks about his electro-craft.
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/contents.htm

Summation of Tesla's Dynamic Theory of Gravity (ether physics and electro propulsion system) by William Lyne
http://netowne.com/technology/important/

Video material on the subject:

Hitler's Secret Flying Saucers, a studio discussion with William Lyne:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... ng+saucers

Nazi Ufos How They Fly, a studio discussion with William Lyne:
http://www.guba.com/watch/3000090135









Here's a few new links on the Tesla's free energy inventions..

Bendini machine:

JOHN BEDINI'S COLLECTION OF FREE ENERGY MACHINES
http://www.icehouse.net/john1/john1.html

Tesla switch, which apparently he used in his electric car to drive it with a "Bendini/ Joe Newman" motor/generator ...here's info on how it worked:
http://www.icehouse.net/john1/tesla.html


Here's an article by a physicist Harol Aspden on how this "Tesla/Bendini/Newman" mass-electromagnetic generator operates:

IS THERE A REACTING AETHER? Here is the Proof: It powers the BEDINI Machine!

http://www.aetherscience.org/www-energy ... s2001.html



The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman: (..the guy might be a bit "odd", but don't let it bother you and focus on the motor ...not the man.)

http://www.google.com/search?hl=fi&q=Th ... wman+motor


Here you can read a Tesla lecture on one of his special coils (if i understand this right, it is a free energy coil) ..very interesting stuff.
http://www.pbs.org/tesla/res/res_art05.html

TESLA'S NEW MONARCH OF MACHINES
by Nikola Tesla -New York Herald Tribune, Oct. 15, 1911



“..And it makes the aeroplane practical,” I suggested.

“Not the aeroplane, the flying machine,” responded Dr. Tesla. “Now you have struck the point in which I am most deeply interested—the object toward which I have been devoting my energies for more than twenty years—the dream of my life. It was in seeking the means of making the perfect flying machine that I developed this engine.
“Twenty years ago I believed that I would be the first man to fly; that I was on the track of accomplishing what no one else was anywhere near reaching. I was working entirely in electricity then and did not realize that the gasoline engine was approaching a perfection that was going to make the aeroplane feasible. There is nothing new about the aeroplane but its engine, you know.
“What I was working on twenty years ago was the wireless transmission of electric power. My idea was a flying machine propelled by an electric motor, with power supplied from stations on the earth. I have not accomplished this as yet, but am confident that I will in time.
“When I found that I had been anticipated as to the flying machine, by men working in a different field, I began to study the problem from other angles, to regard it as a mechanical rather than an electrical problem. I felt certain there must be some means of obtaining power that was better than any now in use. And by vigorous use of my gray matter for a number of years, I grasped the possibilities of the principle of the viscosity and adhesion of fluids and conceived the mechanism of my engine. Now that I have it, my next step will be the perfect flying machine.”

“An aeroplane driven by your engine?” I asked.

“Not at all,” said Dr. Tesla. “The aeroplane is fatally defective. It is merely a toy—a sporting play-thing. It can never become commercially practical. It has fatal defects. One is the fact that when it encounters a downward current of air it is helpless. The “hole in the air” of which aviators speak is simply a downward current, and unless the aeroplane is high enough above the earth to move laterally but can do nothing but fall.
“There is no way of detecting these downward currents, no way of avoiding them, and therefore the aeroplane must always be subject to chance and its operator to the risk of fatal accident. Sportsmen will always take these chances, but as a business proposition the risk is too great.

“The flying machine of the future—my flying machine—will be heavier than air, but it will not be an aeroplane. It will have no wings. It will be substantial, solid, stable. You cannot have a stable airplane. The gyroscope can never be successfully applied to the airplane, for it would give a stability that would result in the machine being torn to pieces by the wind, just as the unprotected aeroplane on the ground is torn to pieces by a high wind.
“My flying machine will have neither wings nor propellers. You might see it on the ground and you would never guess that it was a flying machine. Yet it will be able to move at will through the air in any direction with perfect safety, higher speeds than have yet been reached, regardless of weather and oblivious of “holes in the air” or downward currents. It will ascend in such currents if desired. It can remain absolutely stationary in the air, even in a wind, for great length of time. Its lifting power will not depend upon any such delicate devices as the bird has to employ, but upon positive mechanical action.”

“You will get stability through gyroscopes?” I asked.

“Through gyroscopic action of my engine, assisted by some devices I am not yet prepared to talk about,” he replied. “Powerful air currents that may be deflected at will, if produced by engines and compressors sufficiently light and powerful, might lift a heavy body off the ground and propel it through the air,” I ventured, wondering if I had grasped the inventor’s secret.
Dr. Tesla smiled an inscrutable smile.
“All I have to say on that point is that my airship will have neither gas bag, wings nor propellers,” he said. “It is the child of my dreams, the product of years of intense and painful toil and research. I am not going to talk about it any further. But whatever my airship may be, here at least is an engine that will do things that no other engine ever has done, and that is something tangible.” .
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http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1911-10-15.htm