Death for renouncing Islam in London

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PostTue Aug 19, 2014 6:06 pm » by Tuor10


There is a trend with this lot: As their population grows in a non-Muslim state, the more fuc.ing liberties they begin to take.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2df_1408080602

What a bunch of boring basta.ds. They should get a life. Maybe get a girlfriend; preferably one that still has her genitals in place. I mean FFS, where is the enjoyment in their life? No bloody wonder they blow themselves up so readily.

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PostTue Aug 19, 2014 6:34 pm » by Dr.Abraham


Let's clear up some misconceptions.


Firstly I like RT however they are definitely Bias when it comes to Islam. This has been proven many times fold .
It was Obvious from the very beginning when ever they would report on Chechnya.


And it was Obvious by the opening statements of the RT reporter .

When she was talking about "stoning and death to anyone who leaves Islam "


Hogwash .... Do you really believe the English Gov would allow people to be stoned to death ?

News flash ! Sharia law is not Above English law .
Further more Mr . Anjem Choudary the extremist mouth peace
Is a moron for trying to even establish Sharia law period !.

The ruling has been and will continue to be that every Muslim has to obey the laws set forth in non Muslim lands . and not create fitna (caous ) in their land .

Simply put if they want sharia law they need to move to a place that lives by it.


Many Muslims here in the USA would really like to get ahold of Mr
Anjem Choudary and straiten him out .


Keep in mind that whenever the news reports on Islam they also blow things way out of proportion for the shock and awe factor.

No where in that video did thoes Muslims talk about severing off heads for leaving Islam.

It won't ever come to that in England...


What they want is to enforce certain aspects of Islam like the no drinking , no music etc.

And its wrong for them to do so.


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PostTue Aug 19, 2014 6:47 pm » by Termite


Dr.Abraham wrote:Let's clear up some misconceptions.


Firstly I like RT however they are definitely Bias when it comes to Islam. This has been proven many times fold .
It was Obvious from the very beginning when ever they would report on Chechnya.


And it was Obvious by the opening statements of the RT reporter .

When she was talking about "stoning and death to anyone who leaves Islam


Absolutely correct! :flop:


Dr.Abraham wrote:News flash ! Sharia law is not Above English law .
Further more Mr . Anjem Choudary the extremist mouth peace
Is a moron for trying to even establish Sharia law period !.

The ruling has been and will continue to be that every Muslim has to obey the laws set forth in non Muslim lands . and not create fitna (chaos ) in their land .

Simply put if they want sharia law they need to move to a place that lives by it.


Yes... this is clear. This is textbook behavior. :flop:



Dr.Abraham wrote:Many Muslims here in the USA would really like to get ahold of Mr
Anjem Choudary and straiten him out .


Absolutely... and this is NOT uncommon either.

There is a certain bias that presents itself in the general population of the west and this is a prime example of it. Most people who express this opinion/perception get it from right-wing media and/or unaware and extreme "preachers" in local and regional churches.
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PostTue Aug 19, 2014 6:57 pm » by Dr.Abraham


There is a certain bias that presents itself in the general population of the west and this is a prime example of it. Most people who express this opinion/perception get it from right-wing media and/or unaware and extreme "preachers" in local and regional churches.



I agree..


I know it's a long shot for people ,but if they just took the time to research they (like me) would probably discover 95% of the hogwash on the news is pure BS ...

With regard to big stories ..


Simply put doom porn Bull shit sells . :yell:
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PostTue Aug 19, 2014 7:11 pm » by Tuor10


Dr.Abraham wrote:Let's clear up some misconceptions.

Okay


Firstly I like RT however they are definitely Bias when it comes to Islam. This has been proven many times fold .
It was Obvious from the very beginning when ever they would report on Chechnya.

There is nothing bias about that report though. There are groups of young Muslim males, patrolling the streets of East London, trying to enforce Sharia Law.


And it was Obvious by the opening statements of the RT reporter .

When she was talking about "stoning and death to anyone who leaves Islam "

It happens though. It might not be the prescribed way of doing things, but it happens.
Here in the UK, there are honor killings: Father kills daughter because she fell in love with non-Muslim.



Hogwash .... Do you really believe the English Gov would allow people to be stoned to death ?

The British government have allowed a lot of dodgy stuff to go on outside the public domain, so who knows. What can the government do to a sect of people who want no part of their laws?
I know for a fact that in many Muslim dominated communities around Britain, the Muslims denizens already have greater autonomy than any other faith based communities in Britain.


News flash ! Sharia law is not Above English law .

A de-facto state of Sharia law exists in Britain already. Muslims get many special types of exemption that are not afforded to the general populace.
Other, more barbarous forms of Sharia law are not far away; and the British government are too weak to oppose it.

Further more Mr . Anjem Choudary the extremist mouth peace
Is a moron for trying to even establish Sharia law period !.

Yep, he is a grade A moron. I can think of other choice words for him. :censored:


The ruling has been and will continue to be that every Muslim has to obey the laws set forth in non Muslim lands . and not create fitna (caous ) in their land .

But that just doesn't stand up mate. Not any more. There is a significant percentage of Muslims all around Europe who have totally shunned the Western way. Western society is anathema to them; thus they have fallen more readily under the radicalist spell. There is no reasoning with these people; it is their way or your head ends up on a stick.

Simply put if they want sharia law they need to move to a place that lives by it.

Not being funny, but I think you're being a tad naive here. There isn't one country on the planet, that has a significant population of Muslims, that live harmoniously with the country that bears them; especially if that country is a non-muslim state with a majority non-muslim population. Once the Muslim population exceeds 5%, the trouble starts
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Many Muslims here in the USA would really like to get ahold of Mr
Anjem Choudary and straiten him out .

He has that affect on people.


Keep in mind that whenever the news reports on Islam they also blow things way out of proportion for the shock and awe factor.

Not really. I have seen a lot of stuff up close and personal; and I don't by the redacted version anymore
.

No where in that video did thoes Muslims talk about severing off heads for leaving Islam.

Not on camera they don't. That would be a bit silly.


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That is a picture from a so called peaceful Muslim protest in London.


It won't ever come to that in England...

I don't share your optimism. Thankfully, not all of us have remained blind to this growing menace.



What they want is to enforce certain aspects of Islam like the no drinking , no music etc.

Yeah; how boring is that? Music soothes the soul. Why would anyone want to ban music?


And its wrong for them to do so.

Indeed.


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PostTue Aug 19, 2014 7:33 pm » by Tuor10


Termite wrote:There is a certain bias that presents itself in the general population of the west and this is a prime example of it. Most people who express this opinion/perception get it from right-wing media and/or unaware and extreme "preachers" in local and regional churches.


That statement is in itself, biased and slightly ignorant of the facts.

Not everyone bases their views of Islam through the woolly prism of the media. Some, like me, base their views on seeing things up close and personnel.

Here, in the UK, the BBC is very Muslim friendly. They don't stop telling us how wonderful Muslims are, and how only a very "small number" are actually scumbags of the highest order.

BTW - The news report came from RT, a Russian news agency.

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PostTue Aug 19, 2014 7:48 pm » by Fatdogmendoza


Tuor and I disagree on many things and have done so many times, however I tend to agree with him on many points above

This is where I was born and lived happily before I moved on..All of my family still live there including One -23.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Heat ... Population

It is a Majority Muslim area., anything wrong with that? no not at all apart from the ethnic minorities of the UK being compartmentalzied and encouraged to live in ethnic slums . But there is a real fear concerning the spread of fundamentalism in such an area by all sections of the populace.. and sharia law is very evident amongst certain factions of the community. And that is a fact....

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PostTue Aug 19, 2014 7:55 pm » by Termite


Tuor10 wrote:
Termite wrote:There is a certain bias that presents itself in the general population of the west and this is a prime example of it. Most people who express this opinion/perception get it from right-wing media and/or unaware and extreme "preachers" in local and regional churches.


That statement is in itself, biased and slightly ignorant of the facts.

Not everyone bases their views of Islam through the woolly prism of the media. Some, like me, base their views on seeing things up close and personnel.

Here, in the UK, the BBC is very Muslim friendly. They don't stop telling us how wonderful Muslims are, and how only a very "small number" are actually scumbags of the highest order.

BTW - The news report came from RT, a Russian news agency.



I am aware that that report is from a Russian news outlet. I am also aware of the Muslim THUGS that are represented in the reports of these assholes patrolling the streets. They are not representative of Islam. They are actual thugs! Just punks looking for an excuse or rationa'al to go out and behave this way similar to the thug punks that go and play the "knock out" game in the Unites States. I was not commenting upon your perception or anything about your post. I was commenting on the post itself and the video therein. I was not aware that you had witnessed this personally but I too have witnessed similar behavior in my travels and I know that it does exist. In fact, I believe it is a microcosm of the attitude perpetuated by many of the current extremist groups that exist throughout the world. I agree with your presentation, but, this is not Islam. This is young stupid thugs looking for an outlet for their vengeful rage and using Islam as a rationalization for their evil behavior.
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PostTue Aug 19, 2014 8:01 pm » by Toxic32


Welcome back Slith...Nuff Said.

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PostTue Aug 19, 2014 8:02 pm » by Fatdogmendoza


Termite wrote: This is young stupid thugs looking for an outlet for their vengeful rage and using Islam as a rationalization for their evil behavior.


To a certain extent that is true, but the sad thing is, they are claiming to be carrying out their ''vengeful rage'' in the name of Islam.. The average UK citizen who only knows Islam through the media then proceeds to come to their own conclusions.

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