DHS Considers Collecting DNA From Kids

Tue May 15, 2012 2:55 pm » by **One-23**

Documents just released by US Immigration & Customs Enforcement (ICE) in response to one of EFF’s Freedom of Information Act requests show that DHS is considering collecting DNA from kids ages 14 and up—and is exploring expanding its regulations to allow collection from kids younger than that.

The proposal appears to be working its way through DHS in the wake of regulations from the Department of Justice that require all federal agencies—including DHS and its components such as ICE—to collect DNA from individuals arrested for federal crimes as well as “from non-United States persons who are detained under the authority of the United States,” whether or not they have been involved in criminal activity. While the law specifically exempts a few classes of “aliens,” the documents we received show DHS may start DNA collection from anyone it fingerprints. Currently, that’s any child over 14 who’s detained, but we also found records that show ICE could lower that age even more.
Source https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/04/d ... already-do

Tue May 15, 2012 3:53 pm » by **Constabul**

They are looking for Someone in particular.
This is just the shell game cover for searching.

:peep:

Tue May 15, 2012 4:20 pm » by **monica44**

Cageyone23 wrote:Documents just released by US Immigration & Customs Enforcement (ICE) in response to one of EFF’s Freedom of Information Act requests show that DHS is considering collecting DNA from kids ages 14 and up—and is exploring expanding its regulations to allow collection from kids younger than that.

The proposal appears to be working its way through DHS in the wake of regulations from the Department of Justice that require all federal agencies—including DHS and its components such as ICE—to collect DNA from individuals arrested for federal crimes as well as “from non-United States persons who are detained under the authority of the United States,” whether or not they have been involved in criminal activity. While the law specifically exempts a few classes of “aliens,” the documents we received show DHS may start DNA collection from anyone it fingerprints. Currently, that’s any child over 14 who’s detained, but we also found records that show ICE could lower that age even more.
Source https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/04/d ... already-do

This has already been going on for years in England, along with convicts having to give samples, they are also being taken by Doctors and Maternity Hospitals have been doing it for years too, And i cannot think for one moment that this is not happening in other countries too.

Tue May 15, 2012 4:29 pm » by **Punjedi**

You would think that considering the fair amount of blood being drawn from just about everyone at some point in their life, in the presence of a doctor or nurse, that they already have most everyones DNA on record.

Think about when babies are born. Almost always carried off leaving a good gap of time that the mother doesn't see the baby. At any point a small hair or drop of blood or stool sample would yield the necessary DNA they would need.

It almost sounds like they are using this as a "warm-up". For instance. In this day and age it is very hard to keep anything locked down for too long, so in order to let it be public knowledge, you have to work the society into it slowly.

So, they tell us they want to DNA sample our children as a safety and precautionary method. Parents flock to be the first to be "good parents" and protect their kids. Suddenly it becomes ok, and just fine.

Of course they would already have been gathering this info.

Tue May 15, 2012 4:52 pm » by **The57ironman**

Constabul wrote:They are looking for Someone in particular.
This is just the shell game cover for searching.

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