Did The Federal Government Just Legalize Marijuana?

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PostTue Sep 03, 2013 11:00 am » by *WillEase*


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As states continue to nullify federal laws against marijuana and hemp, the federal government has been faced with an important question. It’s been more than 75 years, and marijuana and hemp still remain illegal. Never mind the total lack of reasoning behind the federal government’s ban. Is it time to end the law?

Less than 24 hours ago, it all came crashing down. According to the Associated Press, the justice department said that states can allow citizens to use the drug, license people to grow it and allow them to purchase it in stores. As long as the drug is kept away from the black market, children and federal property– It’s a go!

According to Mike Maharrey, national communications director for the Tenth Amendment Center:

“The genie is out of the bottle and she won’t ever go back in. The feds have lost and they know it. No matter how Holder and the DEA couch their words in an attempt to maintain an illusion of control, state actions continue to effectively nullify these unconstitutional marijuana laws.“

When asked if the federal government just essentially legalized marijuana Maharrey responded:

“The announcement makes it clear the feds have no will to fight the states on weed. They can call it an “illegal drug” all they want, but if they can’t, or won’t, stop people from using marijuana, their “law” means nothing.”

The recent surge in nullification has sent states fighting against the federal government on pot use. It would seem that the federal government just gave up. A major victory for the states- no doubt.

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PostTue Sep 03, 2013 11:06 am » by Spock


I heard this on the way home from work on the radio last Friday; said that marijuana was legal and that same sex marriage would be recognized in all 50 states.

I forgot about it until this post and thought I must had heard wrong.

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PostTue Sep 03, 2013 11:28 am » by *WillEase*


Spock wrote:I heard this on the way home from work on the radio last Friday; said that marijuana was legal and that same sex marriage would be recognized in all 50 states.

I forgot about it until this post and thought I must had heard wrong.


If the federal government isn't going to enforce laws against marijuana, why should the states?
I'll bet that states that are on the fence about this issue will follow suit and legalize it soon.
This could very well open the flood gates.
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PostTue Sep 03, 2013 11:29 am » by Data


Very awesome, though here the dispensary raids keep occurring from time to time...

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PostTue Sep 03, 2013 11:36 am » by RATRODROB


will hopefully free up a lot of jail beds that are occupied by low level offenders.


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PostTue Sep 03, 2013 11:56 am » by Harbin


No, he simply said that the Obama administration will not challenge states efforts to legalize.
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PostWed Sep 04, 2013 1:51 am » by Opalserpent


I hope it's true. I can't see big pharma laying down without a fight though.

What happens if everyone starts using pheonix tears and cancer drops through the floor?

Though gmo foods we eat everyday should balance that out.


I remember reading that hemp will kill the paper industry since hemp is superior.
The paper industry along time ago bribed politicians to make hemp illegal.
Back then paper was being used in a big way from non hemp sources, they
didn't have computers back then and 2 terrabyte harddisks.

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PostWed Sep 04, 2013 2:23 am » by 99socks


Unfortunately, I've been hearing a lot about this lately:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/0 ... 02800.html

Marijuana And Extinction: Feds Link Pot Farms To Threats Against Specific Species

They say weed can't kill you. But if recent research is any indication, marijuana farms may be driving certain species to extinction.

The federal government is investigating whether pot plantations on the west coast are related to the sudden deaths of fishers, woods-dwelling cousins of weasels. According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, rat poisons used on thousands of illegal cannabis farms may be responsible for killing the small predators, who frequently feast on vermin that have already ingested the toxins.

"We absolutely do have to evaluate the marijuana threat," J. Scott Yaeger, a wildlife biologist in Yreka, Calif., told the Associated Press. "My gut feeling is we are going to find a strong link."

Fish and Wildlife scientists will spend the next several months tracking fisher populations in California, Oregon and Washington. Biologists estimate that between 3,000 and 5,000 of the mammals remain in the Pacific Northwest.

A recent study conducted by U.C. Davis found that of 58 dead fishers tested, 46 contained traces of the fatal poison. EPA research has also found the toxins in other animals, like mountain lions, bobcats, foxes and deer.

Rat poison isn't the only marijuana-related threat to west coast wildlife. Last year, scientists discovered that pot farms diverting water from the Eel River put the endangered coho salmon at risk.

"That is just one small watershed," Scott Bauer, the scientist in charge of coho recovery, told the Los Angeles Times. "You extrapolate that for all the other tributaries, just of the Eel, and you get a lot of marijuana sucking up a lot of water. This threatens species we are spending millions of dollars to recover."

Marijuana advocates argue that legalizing pot may help alleviate some of the environmental consequences of farming in the woods.

"This is only a big problem because marijuana is illegal," Marijuana Majority's Tom Angell told The Huffington Post. "There's a reason why the federal government isn't doing any studies about the disastrous impact that illegal grape growing is having on the environment. Wine is legal and regulated, and no one sneaks deep into the woods to produce it. It's time to bring the marijuana trade aboveground and regulate it so that producers have an incentive to abide by the rules and respect the environment."

Mother Jones recently released a video showcasing how the creation of large-scale pot farms devastates Northern California forests using images from Google Earth. Take a look below:

(Sorry, can't get video on here... follow the link above.)


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PostWed Sep 04, 2013 2:45 am » by Opalserpent


Is pot destroying our planet? must be according to some.

The advent of the petrochemical farming revolution of decades ago and today's farming practices are the
root cause of soil degradation.



Here check this out: The real reason behind the degradation of U.S. farming lands.


http://insideclimatenews.org/news/20090 ... ing-planet

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Despite the countervailing trend of small farms, our food production system is still a concentrated, industrial food production system. And that means an emission-spewing food production system.

Here’s why:

One component is industrial beef production. It’s no secret that that beef production is unsustainable. Livestock production generates 18 percent of global GHG emissions, including 65 percent of human-related nitrous oxide (296 times the global warming potential of CO2) and 37 percent of all human-induced methane (23 times the warming of CO2),

As a Pew study tersely put it, the “industrial model concentrates on growing animals as units of protein production” while paying zero attention to the ecological impact of such practices, which includes massive energy costs to feed those animals, as well as deliberate ignorance of the nitrogen cycle — the use of animal fecal matter to fertilize cropland. Manure, since it is primarily water, can’t be transported long distances, so feedlot manure can’t easily be used as natural fertilizer for cropland.

Large farms, then, rely heavily on artificial fertilizer, which means more greenhouse gas emissions — producing one pound of artificial nitrogen releases 3.7 pounds of CO2.

So the monoculture plantations that occupy the country’s core are those industrial feedlots’ counterpart. Their huge expanses of corn, wheat, and soybeans require massive inputs of petrochemical fertilizers and the use of titanic tractors and combines that use vast amounts of oil to till the fields and harvest the crops.

Monocultures like these run ramshackle over ecological laws. They do not have the capacity to withstand massive pest infestation. Pests attack specific types of plants, and thus unmixed fields are far more sensitive to attacks. Additionally, crops in monocultures are selected for productivity, rather than their ability to resists predators, worsening the problem and making their reliance on chemical pesticides even more acute.

As Fred Kirschenmann of the Leopold Center notes:

Any time you have a density of species, nature will intervene. … It introduces diseases or other mechanisms to bring that species back into some interaction at an appropriate scale with other species in the ecosystem. So what we have done in effect with these large monoculture specialized system is to defy nature. We have been pretty successful at defying nature, but only because we've had cheap energy to do it.

Indeed, about one-third of farmers’ operating costs come from gasoline, fuel, and fertilizer, according to the USDA census.

Additionally, large farms are inefficient even by the warped yardstick deployed by mainstream economics. As sustainability analyst L. Hunter Lovins comments, it is by now well-known that small farms are more productive than large ones. Studies have confirmed that alternative farming systems tend to use less synthetic pesticides, fertilizers, and antibiotics than farms run on organic or agro-ecological models

Large farms are also ground zero for the much-touted bio-fuels that purport to replace oil — but really starve the poor in the service of a mistake, since corn, switch grass, and wood biomass respectively require 29, 45, and 57 percent more energy than they produce.

Still, as Vilsack said at a Feb. 10 event, farmers must accept the “political reality that U.S. farm program direct payments are under fire both at home and abroad and therefore farmers should develop other sources of income.” Vilsack was obliquely alluding to the massive ethanol subsidies that contribute to the proliferation of monoculture plantations.



Full article at below link:

http://insideclimatenews.org/news/20090 ... ing-planet



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