Disclose TV Forum loosing reliability ?!

Thu May 21, 2009 8:11 pm » by **Harmonise**

I believe the reliability of this sites forum is in threat, because of the fact that many high(er) ranked members deliberately or undeliberately (ignorance) placing falsehood.

Is it so that the more post you place or reply to, the higher you rank become or what ?

I know the meaning of a forum, blogg, twitter etc. so don t take this forum to that direction,

As said I only believe that most people joining this site/forum as a member get alot of
misinformation of high(er) ranked members, which ultimately will affect the reliabillty of this site and forum.

Higher members bleating like a donkey, undeliberately stuck in the façade created arround them, believing the Walt disney version of our history can't have those high(er) ranks on this site and forum.

Hiding behind "Dulness isn t a Sin" , well WAKE UP !!
There are more phrases like this which are liturally designed (Priory of Sion int.al.)to suppress individual intelect.

Is there any one, without raising a voice or demoralising the forum, that think like this way or other please react.

It's all an illusion, It's all about LOVE, remember the law of the Echoe !

Thu May 21, 2009 8:19 pm » by **Ph0enix**

NO. I like this site. I've looked at many of these types of sites and I chose this one to actually speak on. Why? The intelligence and sanity level of the average user is higher than lots of places I've seen. I wouldn't pay attention to the great minds of God Like Productions or Above Top Secret. Above Top Secret isn't SOOOO bad, but they got some loons over there. Probably because of the popularity and age. Theres a more than healthy amount of intelligence here and a very healthy group of skeptics. So long as these two things are true, fairy tales will not blossom and develope here. They won't even be allowed to live... That is the ONLY reason I personally became a member and began sharing my thoughts, questions, and opinions here. The ONLY WAY the UFO and other conspiracy phenomena will be taken seriously is when reasonable people are willing to walk into magic fairy land and come out with something tangible. This site has such people.

Thu May 21, 2009 8:36 pm » by **Rizze**

Good will come eventually, but bad will also be here,it's

usually the big bad man that tells tales.
Who is the big bad man?
take a look around we all are

Read into that what you may, it's relevant to any that see

what they want to see.

Trust your own instincts, but never ever take anyone's word

for it being the truth.

Learn by error, learn by experience, the human consciousness

is after all a great learner.

Every one person here deserves an opinion, that is what makes this site better than the rest.

Just look at the amount of freedom the poster can say......not many get posts pulled or even told off for swearing,ranting is good,good for the soul.
It's just like having a drink or two with friends and putting the worlds to rights

As for misinformation and ranked members doing it here.....Damn it's everywhere

Hey I bet government think tanks scour this place looking for good ideas.

Thumbs up for DTV :flop:

Thu May 21, 2009 9:12 pm » by **Lowsix**

Name ONE single piece of Legitimate disinformation being placed by "ranking" members.

Just one.

back it up and prove it..and dont get confused about whats being posted, and doent lie about who is posting what.
If youre gong to say somehting that inflammatory, you should probably have some examples to back it up.

All i see, is some ranking members fighting for the truth while charging Full steam into investigations on the unknown.
its being purported around here that several members 'just dont believe anything thats on this site"

Well..um..no..thats not true.

Some of us just dont like LIES and internet scare tactics finding its place next to the truth and being treated with equal importance.

Beliefs are one thing..about ehtereal stuff and personal experiences..
Most of us cant or wont touch that..
but when sceince is tossed out wholesale, and ignored, and trashed, and ridiculed..
*(and im talkinag about stuff that can be and IS proven)
Then some of us are GOING to stand up for it..

People that happen to think that every plane in the sky is poisoning you, or that there are actual LIZARDS running governments, or that every single dot of light in the sky is an alien UFO, you are well served by people who can wholeheartedly and enthusiastically disprove that, bc the rest of the world is watching us..and if you want ANY of these subjects taken seriously..

Sometimes planes are emitting contrails
Sometimes diamond ufos are actually lens artifacts
Sometimes, ok wait..Lizards NEVER become heads of governments..
Sometimes creationists are WRONG about dinosaurs walking with humans
Sometimes Time lapse photography will create things that LOOK LIKE alien ships but arent..

REALITY HAS TO COME INTO PLAY SOMEWHERE..

and if its not..the world MUST see that there are those of us who DO believe in the mysteries of life, but refuse to buy wholesale into the nonsensical fairytale stories being passed around as fact. And that the ones with the closed minds are ACTUALLY those who get off on ignoring reality and the items that may pass themselves off as one thing, but are actually another..

Duck mentioned Gullible.
Im the last person you can accuse of being gullible..
But the people who cant understand that word SOMETIMES in my list of debunked subjects get a little more attention than they should..becuase..(wait for it)

They are wrong.

Trust me, you want that, or youll NEVER EVER EVER get the disclosure you think we all deserve..
And when it comes, you goingto have to man up and accept what the disclosure terms are..if they are in fact, based in reality EVEN IF..you dont like the explanations..

No , hell no this forum isnt losing any reliability..
its gaining Credibility becuase the lurkers know whos being serious,
whos being a goofball, and who really has the open and closed minds..
And thats who we are aiming at..

If lurkers see that there are some of us willing to endure Mep and Duck and Jones namecalling, and claims that were just too ignorant to 'get it" or that we are ignoring evidence wills ee right through it when necessary, although you wont always hear from them...

Sometimes, Reality needs to win over Fantasy..or we arent going to get ANYWHERE with this stuff...

Embrace reality.
Reject the hysterical.
Embrace science when its correct.
Reject the fairytale when its not.

And ALWAYS ALWAYS look at both sides and decide on the strength of the EVIDENCE, not the number of smilies used in some witty insult, or claims by the people whose minds are so open theyve fallen right out of their heads..

They arent serving you either..they just want you to love them.
People obsesed with the truth wont care if you love them or not..
they just want you to love the Truth..

And if you think any of these personalities are 'harming the site' ...
Then get your ass in there and prove them wrong with EVIDENCE, (not hysterical smily laden insult rants) and well thought out counter theories..dont get mad that they are Muddying up the water of the river of Mystery..realise in most cases they are tying to clear it up..FOR YOU.

Thu May 21, 2009 9:24 pm » by **Bink02**

Re: Disclose TV Forum loosing reliability ?!... In the words of Will Smith...( I Robot) Oh Hell No. ...There's some damn smart people on here , I can't tell you how many times I've had my mental processes expanded by some of the debates and evidence that each side presents , things I would have not even considered otherwise . Like "Wow ", I didn't know that ... or "Wow" that IS interesting , or "Wow , how did they figure THAT one out ? Or "Wow " I don't have a clue what the hell their talking about , but it sure sounds pretty cool

So you folks just keep sending the rest of us your "Wow" signals...

Damn good site in my opinion... or IMO <--------- I learned that one here too. :cheers:

Thu May 21, 2009 9:34 pm » by **lainn**

harmonise wrote:I believe the reliability of this sites forum is in threat, because of the fact that many high(er) ranked members deliberately or undeliberately (ignorance) placing falsehood.

Is it so that the more post you place or reply to, the higher you rank become or what ?

I know the meaning of a forum, blogg, twitter etc. so don t take this forum to that direction,

As said I only believe that most people joining this site/forum as a member get alot of
misinformation of high(er) ranked members, which ultimately will affect the reliabillty of this site and forum.

good place disclose tv....

Higher members bleating like a donkey, undeliberately stuck in the façade created arround them, believing the Walt disney version of our history can't have those high(er) ranks on this site and forum.

Hiding behind "Dulness isn t a Sin" , well WAKE UP !!
There are more phrases like this which are liturally designed (Priory of Sion int.al.)to suppress individual intelect.

Is there any one, without raising a voice or demoralising the forum, that think like this way or other please react.

It's all an illusion, It's all about LOVE, remember the law of the Echoe !

Beleive me when i say to you that you are not the only individual here that has had been driven to the point of expressing this......there are many post that expess what you have written in different words and with different reasoning...still nontheless.....the same....and if you had the endurance to read back into the countless pages of what is here....you would see that it is true......even the ones that might have brought this to surfice....they also have experienced one way or the other....expressed it....and still remain strong and are a part of this....their value is just as equal as your own....why?....simply because you chose to be here....life has brought you to an intersecting point of shared thought, preceptions,emotions ect.....it is expectation to to left with this sensation that led your fingers to the keys of your gateway.......stick around....give to those that will receive and recieve from those that offer....eat, taste, swallow, or throw it up....your choice.....in the end your truth will be attained....it's like reading a book....what you absorb out of that particular peice of writting is meant for you and your application.......don't surrender to the emotion left of the questions or statments.....instead...pick from the tree what resonates in you to choose as nurishment.....

beleive me....this is not about numbers...and for those that you veiw as concerned with such trivial persuit....recognize them....see them for what they are.....let them continue with their experience and concern yourself with the importance of your own.....you will find your frequency in here...just as they have.

Thu May 21, 2009 9:39 pm » by **Mugenroshi8**

I had written a response to this, but as I hit "submit" it disappeared from my screen. I know why this happened. In my post I wrote, "This site's purpose is Disclosure - Discussion - Debate. If you cannot process conflicting viewpoints and intelligently decide which one makes the most sense to your conscious Mind, then perhaps you should not come here. After all, why would I hang out at a gas station if a bicycle was my only means of transportation."

I was wrong to write this, and I see that now. If you have a problem with the expansion of the Mind through conflicting viewpoints, sending you away is not the correct answer: I encourage those with this problem to visit this site more regularly. In fact, I encourage you to read my posts personally and whether you agree or disagree, post your views passionately. Especially if you do not agree with me, I thirst for the viewpoint I myself have not previously produced. It is how I evolve. Bless me with your views, please.

We are all teacher/students. When you write, you are the teacher and the reader the student. When you read, they are your teacher and you are the student. Just as the moon pulls our waters, and our earth follows causing the rotation of our planet, so are opposing views the catalyst for our expansion. So long as we do not lose sight of the discussion in the heat of our passion, I cannot find fault with this.

Thu May 21, 2009 11:37 pm » by **Hesop**

many high(er) ranked members deliberately or undeliberately (ignorance) placing falsehood.

That's usually a statement made after a dissagreement, and as little can be actually proven on the net, much remains opinions. Opinions will always differ. It makes no difference if one has been here for over a year, or joined yesterday. The actual ranks are not even made public. Oh sure, there are numbers on how many posts one has made, but that hardly reflects if they have ever said anything worthwhile, or made any contributions to the site. So, in fact, those numbers are actually worthless. The real rank here, is respect you get from the other members over a period of time, by being a genuine person, and showing respect in return, having an open mind, and the guts to stand up for what you believe is right.

Fri May 22, 2009 12:03 am » by **dlslith**

You get out of it what you give. Not many sites out there open up the mind like this one. If you don't like it, leave. If you like it, then contribute to all the fantastic probabilities that it invokes. IMO I think it's better than ever, so many minds, opinions, that it's makes us really devulge into many possibilities

Fri May 22, 2009 12:04 am » by **Opiwan**

All I can say is that if you truly want "truth" open your mind to the possibility that what you "know" may not be truth, and then listen.

If you have a preconcieved agenda based on something that you have "felt" all your life, lay it out there and listen to what others say. Don't bring it in with a dagger, because you will be cut down. Say what you feel and listen. Once you see what others say, go back and see if you can counter them, if you can't, then maybe it's time you reconsidered your position.

Do we want truth, or do we want dogma?