Do we actually know whats going on?

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PostMon Mar 02, 2009 10:08 pm » by Blackbarbie


Some of us believe that the NWO control everything and we only see what they want us to see right? Others dont even believe in the NWO.

Ive always been told don't believe everything we see on television which brings me to this
if a huge alien craft came to Mexico and landed maybe abducted a few people maybe even stayed there all night. Would we know? i mean actually would we know. If the news didn't report it and the government really didn't want everyone to know would we find out? or even if something bad happened like a bomb would we ever find out is it wasn't for the media?


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PostMon Mar 02, 2009 10:18 pm » by Drsayus


tinternet these days! thats why its harder for the NWO or elite groups to cover stuff up, because if the whole world is speaking to each other on the net theres no way to cover it up!

thats why im more concered with how the net is being devloped these days! at current times its fine! but if all the rumors of internet 2 are true it will be harder to communicate the truth and easyer to cover it up!

nice post barbie i often think about how easy it would be to cover up these things!

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PostTue Mar 03, 2009 12:55 pm » by Blackbarbie


ohh my thats probably why i heard the rumor about the internet being taxed? :nails:
Yea.. we are supposed to start getting taxed and you will only be allowed on the sites that you pay for , if not then you will have to pay extra to go on other sites. Its like blocks there going to put up.
However i don't think this is right but i do think it would be a good job to get some sort of internet police or something. Anything can happen online and there's no protection.

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ps thank you , it must be only you that thinks that as no one else has replied lol
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PostTue Mar 03, 2009 1:31 pm » by Hansom


I don't think policing the internet would be a good idea, it's our last bastion of free speech. If it were to be regulated then it would go the same way of the television media
And I also believe the internet should be freely available for everyone, not just those that can afford it.
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PostTue Mar 03, 2009 2:45 pm » by 7hidden7agenda7


In my opinion the public should take contol of a few key areas. The Internet, Judicial System, Finance, Healthcare, Electricity, Water, Food production & distribution. These need to be not for profit, no shareholders, pay good wages for employees, be tailored to meet the needs of each community, be flexible and transparent in operation. Government MUST be abandoned and replaced by a system that is transparent, accountable and subject to the law. Positions in government that need continuity should be applied for like any other job ie. a canditate submits a public CV, explains why he can actually do the job required of him, and the most qualified person gets the job. (as opposed to the popularity contest we have today).
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oh.. yeah I think my point was that we will never knwo what's going on until we take control of our world :cheers:
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PostTue Mar 03, 2009 3:29 pm » by Drextin


7hidden7agenda7 wrote:In my opinion the public should take contol of a few key areas. The Internet, Judicial System, Finance, Healthcare, Electricity, Water, Food production & distribution. These need to be not for profit, no shareholders, pay good wages for employees, be tailored to meet the needs of each community, be flexible and transparent in operation. Government MUST be abandoned and replaced by a system that is transparent, accountable and subject to the law. Positions in government that need continuity should be applied for like any other job ie. a canditate submits a public CV, explains why he can actually do the job required of him, and the most qualified person gets the job. (as opposed to the popularity contest we have today).
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oh.. yeah I think my point was that we will never knwo what's going on until we take control of our world :cheers:


Wait a sec. So we should rebel against their new world order then replace it with yours? I'm sorry but your system would become corrupt within 50 years. This popularity contest is one of the few things we did get right.

Who is gonna determine which person is the most qualified? The people? Isn't that what we do now? Set up a special commission to oversee the process? Then watch as the commission becomes the most sought after job by those bought and owned by the special interest? Who is going to decide exactly what problems have priority over others? We would have to know this since each applicant would need to stress their expertise in these areas. Some people think global warming is more important than the economy and vice versa. Ok we could get some one that has skills that he or she could lend to the most important issues. But that would make them a generalist. Which is damn close to what a politician is anyway.

I trust the public about as much as I trust the government. How exactly is the public supposed to run these institutions? You would still need some sort of entity put into place by the public. See where I'm going with this?

The point is I see so many of these ideas thrown out there with absolutely no forethought and most don't even realize they have given rise to something equally if not more frightening than that which they despise.

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PostTue Mar 03, 2009 4:24 pm » by 7hidden7agenda7


I should have added education to that list and specified that it be free and comprehensive.
Actually I have given a lot of thought to it and if you think I'm going to waste my time specifying everything then good luck with that.
What I was trying to get at is that any system that replaces the corruption inducing one we currently have, must be transparent, accountable and above all prevent any single entity, be it a human, a company, a group, a country or whatever, from acquring unwarranted power. No, I don't have all the answers, but if humanity is going to survive it needs to work together and find them.
& yes I do see where you're coming from just incase you were wondering.
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PostTue Mar 03, 2009 5:36 pm » by Towelie


Obviousley word would get around, its the pace at which it does that counts, as DrSayus said in the first reply the internet! Its a great thing for now lets hope it lasts. Even if we didnt have that, word would still get around it would just take a lot longer.
As for radicaly changing our society, this is a disasterous idea it would cause chaos, confusion and panic everywhere. I dont realy see much wrong with most of society a lot of it is very workable.
There is only realy one very simple problem with our society - we have people on the streets with nothing, no money home or anything, then we have people with 50 bedroom mansions and trillion dollar gold statues in there living rooms.
The problem is the size of the difference between these two, its f*****g rediculous.
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PostTue Mar 03, 2009 6:06 pm » by Drextin


7hidden7agenda7 wrote:I
I took "taking over the word" off my To Do list a few years ago, I simply don't have the power. & anyway I'm enjoying the show!
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Call me a nitpicker.......but I have to point out a few things.

First, I suspect trying to change the world and trying to rule it takes about the same amount of energy. Actually it would be easier to rule the world since convincing an idiot of the truth is always harder than getting them to fall for a lie. So I'd say you would have the energy and time simply because you have both in abundance for this. Luckily you don't strike as the ruler of the world type.

Second, I wish there was a santa clause but there isn't. I could hold out until santa became a reality or I could set about spreading the cheer myself. I can wish for a transparent government where no corruption is allowed in any form or I could make damn sure to only vote for those who I believe will make what government we do have better.

The form of government you speak of is at best an early form of socialism likely to give way to a fascist society where every time the masses panic over something they demand new laws to sooth their fears.

People as individuals are inherently smart but as a mass populace we are irrational and prone to the mob mentality. These are basic social behaviors that cannot be denied. So how do we set the checks and balances for that? Your government as all governing styles will be flawed and ripe with corruption. Like it or not our democracy is the best game in town. It would make more sense to tweak it and make it better than starting all over with some pseudo Utopian society that can never be simply because it goes against who we are as humans.

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PostTue Mar 03, 2009 6:12 pm » by Drjones


Hey Towelie,good post,your not the best speller in the world mind you :oops: ,nevermind m8 just because you type certain words that way doesnt mean that they are wrong,i'm brainwashed anyway :lol: .... :headscratch:
Anyways...the problem i see with society is like you say the HUGE divide between the rich and poor....pathetic,the other problem that could address ALL problems is ACCOUNTABILITY,proper accountability no matter who you are or what "status" you supposedly have...THERE ARE people accountable to no-one in this world,they really do what they want,they own the police,they own the "justice" system...so what the hell is that... :?:
Covert dictators are running things,with unlimited finances.THESE PEOPLE need to be held accountable by the people,YOU and me...There is not enough of open accountability in this world...it's all cloak and dagger top secret horseshit..like Bush/Cheney on 911... :hell:
ACCOUNTABILITY is the word of the day....what about the "financial crisis",we the people who faithfully goto work all of a sudden wake up one day and find this mess and now WE have to pay for it....can you believe WE stand for this...WE have to bail the banks out with EVEN MORE TAX money when we cannot even afford to pay this shit in the first place.I swear i really do think it is going to take troops marching up and down our streets with NWO embossed across their chest in BOLD WHITE capitals till people damn well wake up.Of course by then it will be too late but this is what "they" want.
Another word of the day-WAKE UP....don't fight,"they" want this to give them an excuse to impose full martial law with curfews/the works.We have to tackle this thing peacefully by waking more people up... :flop:
So in reply to this post heading-YES i think i have a pretty good idea of what is going on in the world,it's not good.....i want it to change asap do you :?:
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