documentary blows 'ripple effect' video out of the water

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PostWed Jul 01, 2009 2:01 pm » by Kurious


Nearly four years after the 7/7 bombings, England's worst terrorist atrocity, The Conspiracy Files investigates the conspiracy theories flourishing on the internet.

There have been three official reports into the bombings on 7th July 2005, which claimed the lives of 56 people and injured 784 others. The programme sees how conspiracy theories suggest four British Muslims were framed by the government, play on the fears of the Muslim community and spread a highly divisive and damaging message.

The Conspiracy Files: 7/7 examines the evidence in an attempt to separate fact from fiction.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00lkp01/The_Conspiracy_Files_Series_2_30_06_2009

This one is worth watching because it really does show how pathetic alot of these 'homemade' internet based conspiracy videos really are, there is a real treat at the end when the somebody is revealed for what they are.

Look out for the guy with a big white beard, baseball cap & demented look in their eye, he will be familiar in his approach trust me.
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PostWed Jul 01, 2009 11:15 pm » by Kurious


No interest in this gem folks ? Must be because it's a BBC production.
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PostWed Jul 01, 2009 11:26 pm » by Avimoas


kurious wrote:No interest in this gem folks ? Must be because it's a BBC production.


from the BBC Website
Currently BBC iPlayer TV programmes are available to play in the UK only, but all BBC iPlayer Radio programmes are available to you.


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PostWed Jul 01, 2009 11:31 pm » by Lowsix


Totally interested but it wont let this filthy yank play it either boss...sorry.

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PostWed Jul 01, 2009 11:52 pm » by Realorfake


from the BBC Website
Currently BBC iPlayer TV programmes are available to play in the UK only, but all BBC iPlayer Radio programmes are available to you.


aww bloody hell..................
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PostThu Jul 02, 2009 12:02 am » by Sonicattack


kurious wrote:Look out for the guy with a big white beard, baseball cap & demented look in their eye, he will be familiar in his approach trust me.


Yeah, they found the guy that they could attack the easiest, but they don't dare put on some other people that look sane, as some might change their minds.

I feel this is not managed in a real truth seeking manner, rather it was approached in a way to make the public disregard these theories. In short it is biased as it does not question people that put these theories together in the first place.

I am not putting a case for or against 7/7 theories, but I am not satisfied with the way this was handled.

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PostThu Jul 02, 2009 12:07 am » by Rizze


Wow the BBC is up for this. 7/7 an inside job, a train that never existed, a controlled demolitions van parked next to the bus that was supposedly blown by terrorists.

It maybe speculation, but 77 ripple effect video claims the said terrorist where just fall guys, in an attempt to gain government backing for the war on terror.

A quarter of British Muslims believe that it also was an inside job.

How did documents, found at the bus explosions and trains also, survive a bomb set off on the person blowing themselves up.

Questions are being asked did the said bombers, actually do the dastardly deed.

Government published an official report, (one year later) after declining a promise to have a public enquiry.

A survivor from the holgate train bombing says he saw a hole (blown) under the train
carriage.

If a suicide bomber blew himself up, the train would have signs of an down wards explosion and not from under and up.

Demolitions (van) company says they don't use explosives. :think:

Cant keep up with narrative folks, sorry that all I can muster.

The 7.40 train ( supposed to be on) was actually cancelled, yet the report said otherwise (they where on it)

How can that be ????
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PostThu Jul 02, 2009 12:37 am » by Funkt33


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Don,t forget the emergency drill that was going on that day by Visor Consultants and Giuliani Security and Safety LLC that specialise in "Mock terror drills" for training.
"At the exact locations of the terror attack" Quote from Visor consultant.

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PostThu Jul 02, 2009 12:50 am » by Rizze


@ funkt33 Mock terror drills are always going on as seen in this documentary.

Conclusion after full viewing, they did it.They blew themselves up and killed many innocents.

The person behind the video the ripple effect


John Hill aka (Muad Dib) believes he is the new messiah,So he says on his website.
Wherever that may be.
Could not catch any signs of his web address "sorry"

Here are some simple reasons why John Hill’s conspiracy theory does not make sense:

1. The cost of keeping even a few people ‘quiet’ and willing to participate in what would be the actual murder of dozens of innocent people is very, very high, and every government agent knows that their own government has other agents and agencies watching them (if not constantly then randomly) and even able to test their loyalty and trustworthiness! In other words; the idea that a sinister element within the UK government would conspire to commit mass murder makes absolutely no sense when it would require being able to ‘trust’ enough officers and agents to go along with such an evil crime; a crime whose evidence, had it been committed, would not only be very, very expensive to hide, but whose evidence being released would cause extreme instability in all branches of government and would be too high a risk for any so-called ‘possible’ benefit! Of course,

if you can find enough agents and officers who share an extreme ideological agenda then it would be possible, but in a relatively democratic and liberal society that is highly unlikely. So, just considering the cost of keeping people quiet and the extreme difficulty in organizing such a massive crime it is very, very unlikely to be the case!

2. The idea that there are no, or too few, British Muslims willing and able to have done such horrible crimes goes totally against all the existing evidence! Yes, most British Muslims are not willing to be brainwashed and are not willing to support the sick agenda of violent extremists, but there are a significant minority of mostly younger British Muslims, perhaps around 5% to 15% (this rough estimate is based on actual, recent opinion polling of British Muslim youths) who unequivocally state that they see nothing wrong with suicide bombers and suicide bombing as a supposed means to an end, that they agree with such terrorist tactics, and that they would be willing to sacrifice their lives as martyrs in what they misperceive as a so-called ‘legitimate’ defense of Islam and of Muslims!

Now, you can also find a minority of youths in other ‘communities’, including those who would call themselves Christian, Jewish, Hindu, etc… who would also have no qualms about going to extremes in order to push their agenda. But the reality is, like it or not, that the vast majority of suicide terrorist attacks in the past 30 years, especially since the Ayatollahs overthrew the Shah of Iran and pursued their extreme agenda throughout the Islamic World, have been done by young brainwashed Muslims who are taught very false interpretations of The Koran and of Islam!

For many naïve people, mostly of Christian background, in Europe and America, it is hard to face the truth and realize that such extreme hatred and willingness to violence can really exist! So, the point here is simple: why frame otherwise innocent British Muslim youths, when you can easily find enough of them to, provided they are given the means, actually commit these sick acts of senseless violence and cowardly murder?? The one counter-argument that Mr. Hill might make is this: ‘…well, because the goal was also to defame Islam and Muslims, and not just to create public support for a war agenda….’. That counter-argument, however plausible it may seem, is false! Any relatively intelligent citizen of the UK knows that there are just too many important economic ties with many nations in the Islamic World, and that risking the loss of their trust and cooperation is absolutely not worth any other agenda!! Also, the social disruptions and their impact on the British economy that would be caused by such a conspiracy being revealed as true, were it true at all, would have disastrous consequences for everyone in the UK! Take this and the previous point and you already can see just how insensible and practically impossible it would be to launch such a conspiracy!


3. Most of the foremost British government agents, security specialists, officials and officers are highly intelligent people…which has nothing to do with whether or not they can make silly (and sometimes costly) mistakes (goes without saying; all highly intelligent persons tend to be absent-minded on occasion)…and thus they all know and understand the overall harm to both UK and World stability and security that ‘false flag’ operations, i.e. supposedly ‘clever’ conspiracies, can all too easily cause, by causing a chain of events that not only would wreck the UK economy, but would risk such a chain of events that would force the world into a final cataclysmic showdown! The agenda of virtually all British government agencies, agents, operatives, officials and officers is to reduce the level of instability in the world and to maintain sufficient security!


4. If there has been any conspiracy with regards to what happened in London on July 7, 2005 then it is much more likely to have been orchestrated by either remnant Nazis who operate out of South American Nazi enclaves and who have infiltrated many governments and agencies or fanatic Iranian operatives! And they would only be able to abet, indirectly, those young men who were already willing, able, planning and preparing to do what THEY DID! In any case; the actual acts were done by those brainwashed youths, even if some sinister anti-British, anti-American, anti-European, anti-EU, anti-UN, anti-Liberal, anti-Democratic Fascists in some way managed to facilitate things for them!!! But Mr. John Hill does not have the intelligence to see that that kind of a conspiracy makes more sense than his more likely obvious effort to harm the UK government and the British public!

Oh, but, he and others may yet argue; ‘what if it was the US government under Cheney, with the help of Israel, that did it?’ First of all, believe or not, Israel’s actual ruling elite and their government know that it would be a fatal mistake for them to in any way ever be involved in any such a conspiracy to set the rest of the world against the Islamic World! Israel may sometimes exploit, out of survival necessity only, the weaknesses their enemies and conflicts between their enemies, but Israel also understands that there is no substitute for a comprehensive, viable, lasting peace, which must ultimately also involve territorial compromise with the Palestinians and the establishment of a Palestinian State!

Israel is a lot less negative and a lot more positive an entity than many in the world today tend to believe, but over-simplistic superficial observations based on both mass-media hype and actual occasional violations of IDF codes of conduct fuel all kinds of senseless garbage about Israel and its overall motives! Of course, there are extremists in Israel who do plenty of harm to their own countries interests, but overall the majority of Israelis are quite different than what organized anti-Semitic groups want the public to think! As for the US; sure, there might have been a few Remnant Nazis who have infiltrated agencies and done things that actually harm overall US interests, including the unlikely possibility that those sick youths were given indirect assistance!

http://theoriginalnycfreeadviceman.blogspot.com/2009/06/mr-john-hill-is-dangerous-fool.html

But you can be sure that the vast majority of US officials, agents and operatives are not one bit even like the political opportunists (such as Rumsfeld, Cheney and others during the previous administration) who almost entirely wrecked the US!

So, as far I am concerned 7-7 happened more or less as the UK government states it did, and there is no sensible reason to think otherwise!


Case closed, no conspiracy............. or is there?
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PostThu Jul 02, 2009 1:28 am » by Kurious


LowSix wrote:Totally interested but it wont let this filthy yank play it either boss...sorry.

let us know if you find an alterlink...
All over it, if you do.

thanks


Apologies Low I thought it would stream worldwide, as soon as I can rip it I will make it available for all somehow !!
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