rawdney wrote:nor do I believe in the Bible or Jesus being the son of God
Pardon me for asking, but you brought it up. Why don't you believe in the Bible? Is it that you believe in some of it? Have you considered that Genesis is the story of extraterrestrial intervention? (Read Chapter 6 with that in mind.) Jesus was the son of Joseph. Mary was not a virgin - that is both a mistranslation of the Hebrew from the Book of Isaiah. Hebrew scripture states "young woman" which is how it is translated into Jewish-English Tanaks. Alexander the Great was mythologized as being born of a virgin with Zeus being his father. The Jesus son of God / born of a virgin myth replaced that one. Personally, I'm glad it did! Alexander the Great was a cruel, murderous tyrant.
I consider myself 'omni-religious: Jewish-Christian-Muslim. However, out of Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad, Jesus is the only one that didn't kill anyone. Do you believe in that?
- Brad Watson, Miami, FL
lifelong imitator of Y'shua ben Yosef
author of 'There Are No Coincidences - there is synchronism'
discoverer of 'plan-it theory': GOD=7_4 or FOD=6_4
muchtyman wrote:Here's a Couple for ya .
Matthew 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mark 13:7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.
Still a while to go then .
Seriously...name a point in time when there werent rumors of war...you cant. Thats like me saying in the year 2500, there will be rumors of conspiracy around the government. As long as there IS government...there will be conspiracies. Is that predicting the future or just stating the obvious?
When I read rev 8, its clear to me that knowledge of the Earths geology was minimal. To say "the sea", as if there is only one sea, proves this. Plus, it is also said that man wont know the when the end times comes. Is that a false statement in the Bible? It must be, because you guys think you know the end is near.
I just dont get how you can throw away some bible verses, and keep some to fit a certain concept, when the verses you throw away actually negate the concept your tying to fit the bible to.
I admit I have not studied the bible for 42 years, nor did I speak at length with a priest about it at the age of eight. (REALLY?) Nor have I read the koran. I do know that the message compiled by Constantine, has a ton of historical truth to it, as do many modern books. I also believe in the message portrayed by the bible. I do not believe that the bible is 100% fact. I do not believe that books written up to as many as 200 years after Jesus Christ lived, can have a true transcript of Jesus word, ever played telephone? If twenty people in one room cannot get a single sentence correct after passing it among them, I find it truly unbelievable, that a story passed by word of mouth, over 200 years, with each persons personal agenda influencing it can be attributed to be the actual words of one Jesus Christ.
If you want to believe that this is it, then they won. They the rulers of this God forsaken planet. Or forsaken by the tribes of Israel who don't know who they are. From then on we ran away from our Lord and maker. The irony is we would prefer not to know. Most of us couldn't imagine life without this before us...cyber bull shit.
There are no religious ties in this disaster.
None, Zero, Nada, Niente.
Even though it's out there that there are many gospels missing such as Judas, Mary M, etc etc it boggles the mind to think that people follow it when in any other circumstance it would be questioned or put on the back shelf as fiction. How can a human being see that when another religion say Buddhism is just as real to Buddhists as the Bible is to a Christian, why does that not let them see themselves as possibly wrong and flawed. Religion in all it's forms will be seen just as silly as the people in the past thinking that Cholera was breathed in by the fog instead of deceased drinking water. I hope that this will be the case as the arrogance of people who think that THEY are on the right track while all other forms of religion are wrong, this just goes beyond stupidity.
There is no excuse for this arrogance as history, as we no it, tells us that nearly everything we though was real and proper was actually wrong, but we still do not learn and rather than having an open mind some people are as closed as we ever where. Pathetic. IMO
My challenge to ALL of you, ANY of you.
Step 1/- Sit down, relax, clear your heads.
Step 2/- Chose a current broad based topic – for example, the evils of the monetary system, religious doctrine, the fight between good and evil (as you see it) etc – it doesn’t matter which side you agree with.
Step 3/- Give this topic some serious thought, where you think it started, how it has affected people, and where you believe it will end, do some research (basic or in-depth doesn’t matter).
Step 4/- Write down your prediction (prophecy) – what do you think will be the likely outcome if things do not change or indeed if things do change.
Step 5/- Repeat the above steps on several other broad based topics.
Step 6/- Go about your daily lives and forget you ever did the exercise because you will likely never know the results.
My guarantee: Given enough time, one of your prophecies/predictions is bound to be proven accurate in some form.
In my opinion prophecy is nothing more than broad prediction. Given a good 200, 2000 or more years some part of any prediction will have some validity at some point in time in some circumstance in some part of the globe. Now, the fact is that the longer the time lag, the greater the chance that whoever will read your prediction will note some strangeness in your writings because the world as we know it does change through time, and that reader will likely add some of his/her interpretations to your prophecy or relate it to his/her present day in order to give it credibility and prove you completely correct.
There is an element of truth in just about everything we see, hear, do, say, we just don’t know it .. yet.
We are all prophets.
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