DOJ of "attack" on "Gibson Guitar's" USA Made

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PostMon Feb 27, 2012 11:36 pm » by pretzellogic


I apologize to past postings, threads, other contributors and to the Super Moderator. But I am a musician, and this is something that is just wrong!

If you feel a need to delete this by DTV rules, I perfectly understand and dont feel I am breaking the rules on purpose, as I understand them but, My God in Heaven DOJ +OBAMA are doing this on purpose!

They are not ignorant ...they know exactly what they are doing - crushing Americans and small business and jobs. SCUM of the earth :badair:


If you are an American Citizen and more so a guitar afficiando or musican / player no matter what brand you select, this is very distrubing attack on the "Gibson Guitar Company" which took place about a year ago by this White House Administration and the Department of Justice.

Please note: I am not promoting any particular brand make or model of instrument.

I am reporting on the way that certain laws are being misconstrued, violated and turned upside down to "take jobs" away from Americans.

This is an outrage and one that should "irk" every person in this country who loves music, has lost a job because YOUR NEXT---WHY? because of the Obama Adinistration Interpretation of the law is quite different than is was written He is chaniing it to suit his own needs.

Please Google / Bing or whatever internet outreach you want search the internet for the original story and this on going saga!

India / and Indonesia now demand that these guitars should be made there and Indian ppl be given the jobs :vomit:

GIBSON still cant defend it self!!!!! They have lost their rights!!!!
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Last August, in a strange fit of regulatory scrupulousness (as Katie pointed out at the time, they didn't seem to be nearly as fastidious when funneling thousands of illegal guns to Mexican drug cartels), the Department of Justice swooped into Gibson Guitar factories in Memphis and Nashville, interrupting productivity with the claim that the musical instrument manufacturer might be using certain "illegal" imported woods. Six months later, however, the DOJ still hasn't filed charges -- surprise, surprise. Thanks to Reason.tv for following up with this shining example of bureaucratic incompetence and inefficiency:


"They...come in with weapons, they seized a half-million dollars worth of property, they shut our factory down, and they have not charged us with anything," says Gibson Guitars CEO Henry Juszkiewicz, referring to the August 2011 raid on his Nashville and Memphis factories by agents from the Departments of Homeland Security and Fish & Wildlife.

The feds raided Gibson for using an inappropriate tariff code on wood from India, which is a violation of the anti-trafficking statute known as The Lacey Act. At issue is not whether the wood in question was endangered, but whether the wood was the correct level of thickness and finish before being exported from India. "India is wanting to ensure that raw wood is not exported without some labor content from India," says Juskiewicz.


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The Right To A Speedy Trial

Posted on February 23, 2012 by granny g.

Today "Hot Air" posted a story about the ongoing saga of Gibson Guitar Company. As you know Gibson Guitar in Memphis and Nashville was raided in August of last year (see rightwinggranny.com) by the federal government and charged with violating the Lacey Act. During that raid, the government confiscated property worth at least $500,000. The guitar manufacturer had not followed to the letter a small part of India’s laws in importing the wood for its guitars. They had not violated United States laws.

Hot Air reports:

Apparently, Gibson used an inappropriate tariff code on the wood. According to Reason.tv, “At issue is not whether the wood in question was endangered, but whether the wood was the correct level of thickness and finish before being exported from India.” In other words, Gibson’s violation had nothing to do with forest preservation.

So how is the case progressing? The article reports:

Turns out, the DOJ has filed no charges. That means Gibson hasn’t had its day in court to defend itself — and the government still has all that confiscated property.

Thankfully, according to the article, Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul has introduced legislation to amend The Lacey Act to remove each and every mention of “foreign law” in the Act and to substitute a civil penalty system with The Lacey Act’s current criminal penalties.

I hope this is resolved quickly–Gibson needs its wood–they make fantastic guitars.

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The Wall Street Journal Comments On Gibson Guitar
Posted on November 27, 2011 by granny g

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Kimberly Strassel at the Wall Street Journal (unfortunately, subscribers only) posted an opinion piece on the August raid on Gibson Guitar by federal agents. The charges against the guitar company are rather complicated.

Ms. Strassel reports:

The company, after all, is not accused of importing banned wood (say, Brazilian mahogany). The ebony it bought is legal and documented. The issue is whether Gibson ran afoul of a techinical Indian law governing the export of finished wood products. The U. S. government’s interpretation of Indian law suggests the wood Gibson imported wasn’t finished enough. Got that?

This whole episode was a set-up. The idea was to discourage imports. In 2007, the Lacey Act, which was passed in 1900 to stop trade in illegal wild game, was expanded to cover “plant and plant products” and related items.

The article reports on the impact of this change on one company:

Furniture maker Ikea noted that even if it could comply with the change, the “administrative costs and record-deeping requirements” would cause furniture prices to “skyrocket.” The wood chips that go into its particle-board alone could require tracking back and reporting on more than 100 different tree species.

If you want to see an economy grow, this is not the way to grow it. Tennessee Representatives Marsha Blackburn and Jim Cooper are working to give companies some relief from this insanity. This is, unfortunately, another example of run-away government.

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