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PostSun Jan 31, 2010 9:13 pm » by Torofamily


UN agency calls for global cyberwarfare treaty, ‘driver’s license’ for Web users
Published on 01-31-2010
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The world needs a treaty to prevent cyber attacks becoming an all-out war, the head of the main UN communications and technology agency warned Saturday.

International Telcommunications Union secretary general Hamadoun Toure gave his warning at a World Economic Forum debate where experts said nations must now consider when a cyber attack becomes a declaration of war.

With attacks on Google from China a major talking point in Davos, Toure said the risk of a cyber conflict between two nations grows every year.

He proposed a treaty in which countries would engage not to make the first cyber strike against another nation.

"A cyber war would be worse than a tsunami -- a catastrophe," the UN official said, highlighting examples such as attacks on Estonia last year.

He proposed an international accord, adding: "The framework would look like a peace treaty before a war."

Countries should guarantee to protect their citizens and their right to access to information, promise not to harbour cyber terrorists and "should commit themselves not to attack another."

John Negroponte, former director of US intelligence, said intelligence agencies in the major powers would be the first to "express reservations" about such an accord.

Susan Collins, a US Republican senator who sits on several Senate military and home affairs committees, said the prospect of a cyber attack sparking a war is now being considered in the United States.

"If someone bombed the electric grid in our country and we saw the bombers coming in it would clearly be an act of war.

"If that same country uses sophisticated computers to knock out our electricity grid, I definitely think we are getting closer to saying it is an act of war," Collins said.

Craig Mundie, chief research and strategy officer for Microsoft, said "there are at least 10 countries in the world whose internet capability is sophisticated enough to carry out cyber attacks ... and they can make it appear to come from anywhere."

"The Internet is the biggest command and control center for every bad guy out there," he said.

The head of online security company McAfee told another Davos debate Friday that China, the United States, Russia, Israel and France are among 20 countries locked in a cyberspace arms race and gearing up for possible Internet hostilities.

Mundie and other experts have said there is a growing need to police the internet to clampdown on fraud, espionage and the spread of viruses.

"People don't understand the scale of criminal activity on the internet. Whether criminal, individual or nation states, the community is growing more sophisticated," the Microsoft executive said.

"We need a kind of World Health Organization for the Internet," he said.

"When there is a pandemic, it organizes the quarantine of cases. We are not allowed to organize the systematic quarantine of machines that are compromised."

He also called for a "driver's license" for internet users.

"If you want to drive a car you have to have a license to say that you are capable of driving a car, the car has to pass a test to say it is fit to drive and you have to have insurance."

Andre Kudelski, chairman of Kudelski Group, said that a new internet might have to be created forcing people to have two computers that cannot connect and pass on viruses. "One internet for secure operations and one internet for freedom."


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PostSun Jan 31, 2010 9:17 pm » by Torofamily


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Danger Room What’s Next in National Security
U.S. Needs Hit Squads, ‘Manhunting Agency’: Spec Ops Report

CIA director Leon Panetta got into hot water with Congress, after he revealed an agency program to hunt down and kill terrorists. A recent report from the U.S. military’s Joint Special Operations University argues that the CIA didn’t go far enough (.pdf). Instead, it suggests the American government should set up something like a “National Manhunting Agency” to go after jihadists, drug dealers, pirates and other enemies of the state.

America’s military, intelligence and law-enforcement agencies already devote thousands of people and billions of dollars to tracking down top terrorists and insurgents. But even the most successful of these efforts — like going after Iraqi militant leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi — have been “ad hoc” efforts, with units cobbled together from different corners of the government. Report author and retired Lt. Col. George Crawford instead would like to see a permanent group with clear authority, training, doctrine and technology to go after these dangerous individuals. These “manhunting teams would be standing formations, trained to pursue their designated quarry relentlessly for as long as required to accomplish the mission,” he writes.
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Sometimes, that will mean operating “in uncooperative countries.” In those cases, the teams must be prepared “to act unilaterally, with no support or coordination with local authorities, in a manner similar to that employed by Israel’s Avner team in response to the Munich Olympics massacre.” (That was the controversial unit, fictionalized in Steven Spielberg’s movie, that allegedly roamed the world, assassinating Palestinian militants in response to the 1972 Olympic attack.)

The hit squads would only be one part of the manhunting agency, according to the Joint Special Operations University monograph, uncovered by Inside Defense. “Dedicated teams must be assembled, able to respond ‘on-call’ in the event of a raid on a suspect site or to conduct independent ‘break-in and search’ operations without leaving evidence of their intrusion,” Crawford notes.

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Manhunting will also “require personnel who are experts at conducting surveillance of particular facilities, personnel, or activities without arousing suspicion or being detected,” he adds. “Picture in your mind a typical city street scene, with a little old lady walking her dog, the phone repair crew descending into a manhole, two little old men playing an innocent game of checkers, or the homeless person sleeping on the park bench, and you are on the right track.”

Such a group wouldn’t just go after terrorists. “Human networks are behind narcotics trafficking, arms proliferation, piracy, hiding war criminals from authorities, human trafficking, or other smuggling activities,” Crawford writes. “Human networks also lie at the core of national governments, offering an increased potential to nonlethally influence state actors with precision. A robust manhunting capability would allow the United States to interdict these human networks.”

Crawford, who says he served as the “lead strategist” for developing U.S. Special Operations Command’s “advanced intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities for counterterrorism operations,” compares manhunting to “curling, the Winter Olympics sport. As a skater releases the heavy stone onto the ice, a few strokes from a broom can alter the speed and trajectory of the stone. Likewise, a small amount of precise influence or force employed at an early point in a developing situation might divert the trajectory of an event away from crisis or full-scale conflict.”
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They can't be watching everything. If they were there would be no unemployment because we would all have jobs spying on each other. There is way too much information for any agency, country or computer to keep track of. The best they could do is program some keywords to look out for and let that be that.

Oh and never forget that the government and military can have the best and most powerful computers on planet earth but there will always be people far more clever who can bypass everything thrown at them.
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PostSun Jan 31, 2010 9:48 pm » by Juliusskywatche


:headscratch: You just have to realise that all Drivers licences are Voluntary! :rtft:

:? Everybody Applies Voluntarily for the slavelicence nomather what kind of licence they want from the Government. :top:

:rtft: They all Contract with the Government Voluntarily! Got It! :rtft:

:badair: Don't Cry like a baby when you Volunteered and then feel fucked, you asked for it, you brougt in the Government as a part of the Contract! :help:

:mrcool: And by the way, in case your wondering, the answer is easy, Don't ask the Government for permission to do anything you have a godgiven right to, don't ask them for permission to travel, don't ask for permission to do anything, because if you do you are considered a Child, because only children ask's for permission, adult's don't need permission, and when you ask for permission along follows conditions, such as you have to wear a seatbelt when you drive or you will be punished, naturally, you are a child that need's to be told how to behave, otherwise you would't have asked for permission! :bang;
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PostSun Jan 31, 2010 10:18 pm » by sockpuppet


Mundie and other experts have said there is a growing need to police the internet to clampdown on fraud, espionage and the spread of viruses.

"People don't understand the scale of criminal activity on the internet. Whether criminal, individual or nation states, the community is growing more sophisticated," the Microsoft executive said.

"We need a kind of World Health Organization for the Internet," he said.

"When there is a pandemic, it organizes the quarantine of cases. We are not allowed to organize the systematic quarantine of machines that are compromised."

He also called for a "driver's license" for internet users.

"If you want to drive a car you have to have a license to say that you are capable of driving a car, the car has to pass a test to say it is fit to drive and you have to have insurance."

Andre Kudelski, chairman of Kudelski Group, said that a new internet might have to be created forcing people to have two computers that cannot connect and pass on viruses. "One internet for secure operations and one internet for freedom."


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All you have to do is infect one central hub of the internet... let's say Chicago, and then all of the US gets "quarantined".

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But of course, if the hacker is inside the US border then this isn't in violation of any kind of international treaty. :rtft:

But what I want to know about this "internet license" thing... are we going to be required to buy Identity Protection in order to get this "license"?
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PostSun Jan 31, 2010 10:35 pm » by Torofamily


sockpuppet wrote:All you have to do is infect one central hub of the internet... let's say Chicago, and then all of the US gets "quarantined".

Read My Lips: CENSORSHIP

But of course, if the hacker is inside the US border then this isn't in violation of any kind of international treaty. :rtft:

But what I want to know about this "internet license" thing... are we going to be required to buy Identity Protection in order to get this "license"?

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Any hope we may have of keeping government, industry and criminals out of our personal business is scheduled to vanish completely in 18 months, privacy advocates say.
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That’s when the federal government’s Real ID Act is to be fully in place, effectively setting up a national identification program by requiring states to adopt strict new high-tech standards for driver’s licenses and ID cards if they are to be accepted by federal authorities at places ranging from airports to U.S. courthouses.

it’s what lies beneath that raises the specter of Big Brother

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PostSun Jan 31, 2010 10:41 pm » by Torofamily


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The federal government is pushing ahead with its controversial plan to filter the internet, saying illegal material can be blocked "with 100 per cent accuracy and negligible impact on internet speed".
http://www.disclose.tv/frameset.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.ninemsn.com.au%2Fnational%2F984141%2Finternet-filter-gets-green-light

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PostSun Jan 31, 2010 10:55 pm » by Lucidlemondrop


torofamily wrote:The federal government is pushing ahead with its controversial plan to filter the internet, saying illegal material can be blocked "with 100 per cent accuracy and negligible impact on internet speed".



Illegal material is a large umbrella that a good number of things can fall under.

Much to large of a brushstroke.........

Yes..........between TIA and Darpa they have all that they need to flag and "negotiate" information.

Look at what the internet did with the plan for the mandatory flu shots...........I don't think the money makers want people to discuss things that can go against mainstream programming and the internet has become a powerful tool.........

They continue to call people who come to sites such as ours as "crazy conspiracy theorist" and they also continue to say that are mental health is effected negatively by gathering information which allows us to make more rational decisions based on thorough investigation.

It's just interesting when we look at freedoms and such we felt before 911 and what we have now.

I noticed the media is throwing around Bin Laden's name alot lately..........A huge Fear shot in the arm to many................
What a long strange trip it's been..............

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PostSun Jan 31, 2010 11:19 pm » by Torofamily


lucidlemondrop wrote:
torofamily wrote:The federal government is pushing ahead with its controversial plan to filter the internet, saying illegal material can be blocked "with 100 per cent accuracy and negligible impact on internet speed".



Illegal material is a large umbrella that a good number of things can fall under.

Much to large of a brushstroke.........

Yes..........between TIA and Darpa they have all that they need to flag and "negotiate" information.

Look at what the internet did with the plan for the mandatory flu shots...........I don't think the money makers want people to discuss things that can go against mainstream programming and the internet has become a powerful tool.........

They continue to call people who come to sites such as ours as "crazy conspiracy theorist" and they also continue to say that are mental health is effected negatively by gathering information which allows us to make more rational decisions based on thorough investigation.

It's just interesting when we look at freedoms and such we felt before 911 and what we have now.

I noticed the media is throwing around Bin Laden's name alot lately..........A huge Fear shot in the arm to many................



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PostSun Jan 31, 2010 11:56 pm » by Hesop


It's a sad state of the world, that computers are dumbing so many down.
Yes, I said dumbing!
Kids aren't learning shit in school, because they only have to cut and paste, and not remember anything. Business's have to shut down if power goes out, because they have no means of even taking your payment for goods. Their registers are linked with their stock ordering. Surprisingly, a great number of cashiers can't even add and subtract on their own.
EVEN emergency responders can be crippled if their freaking computers don't work.
ANY government, corporation, or individual is ignorant, if they are so dependent on a computer program to tell them what to do, or to allow access to needed supplies. That's my opinion.
Someone PLEASE, go back in time to the 1960's and warn everyone there about what has happened!.................No wait, that won't work, they'll just laugh their asses off at you.

The hit squads, they're in continued training now as we speak. 20 Osprey unit supply and delivery craft, and 8 Spectre gunships. All for use within our borders.

Good to see ya again Toro's!!
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PostMon Feb 01, 2010 12:07 am » by Torofamily


hesop wrote:
cut and paste??? :oops: i hate typing

go back in time to the 1960's and warn everyone there about what has happened!.................No wait, that won't work, they'll just laugh their asses off at you.
no one would believe
even now with the evidence all around they still dont :rtft: :bang;


The hit squads, they're in continued training now as we speak. 20 Osprey unit supply and delivery craft, and 8 Spectre gunships. All for use within our borders.


its like a tidal wave that we cant stop :bang;


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