Dyaltov Pass deaths: the work of Russian Yeti

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PostTue Jun 10, 2014 12:23 am » by Fatdogmendoza


Investigators baffled by the unexplained and gruesome deaths of Russian college students decades ago have come up with a new suspect, albeit an unlikely one: the Yeti.

On February 2, 1959, nine college students climbed the icy slopes of Dyatlov Pass in the Ural Mountains of Russia. They never made it out alive. The students bodies were found with broken ribs and fractured skulls. In one grotesque case, a woman's eyes had been gouged out and her tongue was missing.

At the time of the tragedy, investigators cryptically declared the Dyatlov Pass deaths were due to a "compelling natural force," according to a new television documentary reexamining the case.

Since the massacre occurred during the Cold War, some have speculated the students were killed by a top secret Soviet weapon. Others claim an indigenous tribe lashed out at the hikers for trespassing.

However, the murder site doesn't seem to jibe with those explanations:

A new documentary, "Russian Yeti: The Killer Lives" airing June 1 on the Discovery Channel explores the remote possibility that a "menk" -- the Russian word for Yeti -- may have been responsible.

Considering the existence of the Yeti has never been proven, blaming it for the grisly deaths is a stretch. But there are some strange aspects to the massacre, according to explorer Mike Libecki, the star of the program.

For instance, one of the tents was slashed from the inside and some of the victims left their clothing behind in subzero weather.

Even stranger to Libecki has been the Russian government's suppression of the autopsy and other reports for 30 years.

“I’ve spent a lot of time alone in the mountains and have had my share of near-death experiences,” he said in a press release. “I know if I went missing, I’d want my family to know what happened to me.”

In order to explore the Yeti theory, Libecki visited Russia to meet with Yeti expert Igor Burtsev of the International Center of Hominology.

"He's the world's leading expert on the Russian Yeti," Libecki said on the documentary. "He's dedicated his entire life to search for this creature."
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Burtsev, 73, says he has "mountains of evidences" suggesting the creature's existence in the Ural mountains, but "nobody wants to see them."

Based on his research, Burtsev says the Russian Yeti is most notable for large feet.

"They have bigger foot than the human, and they have short necks, almost without necks," he said on the show. "[The footprints are] everywhere. For last 50 years, I've find signs of Yeti, confirmed by reports of eyewitnesses. They're about 5,000."

Libecki is impressed by Burtsev's data.

"That's a huge number of sightings for a creature that supposedly doesn't exist," he said.

The complete findings won't be announced until the documentary airs Sunday night, but the documentary's title, "Russian Yeti: The Killer Lives," might provide a subtle clue.

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PostTue Jun 10, 2014 2:09 am » by Evildweeb


Fatdogmendoza wrote:
A new documentary, "Russian Yeti: The Killer Lives" airing June 1 on the Discovery Channel explores the remote possibility that a "menk" -- the Russian word for Yeti -- may have been responsible.


The complete findings won't be announced until the documentary airs Sunday night, but the documentary's title, "Russian Yeti: The Killer Lives," might provide a subtle clue.

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Good post FD.

Saw this the night it aired. It was very well done and there was some new information from onscene investigators at the time which just creeped me out - THEY were still scared.

Hope they re-air it - definitely worth a watch.


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PostTue Jun 10, 2014 2:29 am » by Thebluecanary


Interesting, I'm going to have to track this down and watch it.

I read a book about the Dyaltov pass incident a few months ago that suggests that the deaths were the result of some kind of sound vortex (a natural occurrence due to the shape of the pass) that caused the hikers to feel unreasonable panic. However, the three that were found in the crevasse had trauma to their bodies that would be consistent with a car crash at 55 miles per hour…something that a 13 foot crevasse filled with snow would not account for.
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PostTue Jun 10, 2014 2:31 am » by Cosmic Circle


It was infrasound.

I'm sure everyone here has been in a breezeway. An outside walkway where the wind picks up and rushes down the lane. Multiply that by a billion.

What that picture shows is that their tent was right in the middle of two mountains which were rounded at the top. If they would have pitched their tent in the woods, they would have probably been frightened, but not near to the extent to which they suffered, as they would have been on the edge of the event, instead of in the cross-hairs.

As the wind hurled towards those two mountains it was in a horizontal cylinder, spinning and rolling up to the bluffs. As it hit the tops of the rounded mountains, this cylinder of wind breaks into two parts, they then turn upright, sending tornadoes down each side of that valley - up to F2 category. 100 feet wide - 113 to 157 MPH winds. Like dust devils, but a whole hell of a lot bigger. And multiple tornadoes.

For years, people that lived near these mountains said not to go there because of bizarre and scary sounds that would come from the area - sounds of animals or humans howling in an unnaturally loud and anguished tone. Locals named it Devil's Mountain and Dead Man's Mountain for that reason.

The hikers, on the other hand, weren't superstitious, and wanted to set their tent up, right smack-dab in the middle of that plain, so in the morning, when the sun rose, the had a clear and straight view of their destination. That destination was their journey's 1/2 way turning around point.

So, around 9:30 or 10, it was pitch black outside - the moon was 1/3 full, but it was not up at that point and I think I remember reading it wouldn't be up until around 5 the next morning.

It's cold outside, 25 below zero.

All of a sudden, these winds roll in, sending tornadoes down either side of the tent - sounding like a freight train on both sides, over and over.

Along with that, there is a phenomenon associated called "infrasound". Militaries have used this for crowd dispersal, but it is still not, to my knowledge, used in way that could be considered targeted, but over a large area.

Anyway, this infrasound is extra low frequency waves creating internal vibration, which not only would have vibrated the ground, and the anchors of the tent, but would also been jarring the organs inside their chest cavities along with the tornadoes sucking the wind from their lungs.

All this together, makes the perfect storm for terror and fear. Their hearts rhythms were being disrupted, adrenaline was through the roof and they were psychotic from fear - resorting to their most primal instinct, and that was to get the hell out of there without considering consequence.

The tent opening had buttons, but would take 2 to 3 minutes to fully undo, maybe longer with someone trying to hold a flashlight while raddled with fear, so while a couple of the campers escaped through the "door", the rest resorted to knifing a hole through the other side to get out.

They exited, scattered and ran in 3 different groups. Just trying to get out of the path of the infrasound, which they would not have understood, along with the heavy gusts.

By the time they got far enough away to regain their senses, again, in pitch blackness, it was too far for them to figure out how to get back to the tent until some sort of light came up, either moon or sun. So they each hunkered down to try to survive the best they could until they could back.

2, were near a tree which they knew to be dry wood, so one climbed and got twigs and started at limbs, ended up falling and fracturing something. They got the fire lit, but should have caught the entire tree on fire.

3 of them, which set off in another direction, one hurt themselves, and it appeared, by the tracks, that the other two carried him, until they suddenly fell 25 feet down into a ravine, which fracture the skull of one, ribs of another and probably cushioned the fall of one. The one that wasn't hurt as bad, was able to see the light from the fire, so he made his way there, and found his two friends already dead from hypothermia with their arms burning in the dwindling fire. He removed their arms from the fire, and tried to salvage some of their clothes to help the 2 he had just left back in the ravine.

The missing tongue...

That poor unfortunate girl, Lyudmila Dubinina, fell face down into a frozen river bed. By the time the search team had found them, the river had thawed - and what is the first part to decompose? Soft fleshy tissue - submerged in water. It was her tongue that was missing, not from aliens, but from decomposition.

So, that's it in a nutshell. But again - to fully understand, give the dude the 10 bucks and read his official breakdown - because this one just does not do it justice.



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PostTue Jun 10, 2014 4:39 am » by Thebluecanary


Yes, infrasound. That pretty much sounds like the same book. Dead Mountain, it was called.

Except, he says 25 feet but others say 13..and it would have been full of snow at the time they fell in, though the snow had melted by the time they were found (a couple months after the others I believe). And the girl with the missing tongue, according to several other accounts, was found on her knees with her head up…not lying down in a riverbed. A couple accounts that I've read mention the trauma to the ravine bodies…which were inconsistent with the fall to the point that the Russians themselves were mystified by it.

Still, the infrasound explanation is the best one I've read. The main thing that I don't really get, though, is if there were multiple F1 and F2 tornadoes passing that close to the tent, how is is possible that 1) the tent was still standing (it was intact when found, just pushed down a little from some snow that fell on it after it was evacuated, possibly way after) and 2) there was no damage to the surrounding trees consistent with tornado force winds? Even an F1 tornado is no joke; I remember reading it and thinking that either the guy isn't doing that great a job of trying to explain what he is trying to explain, or he's full of shit…and has never been anywhere near a tornado or seen what one can do. And if the pass was a place where such tornadoes are common, you'd think the trees and the topography would show evidence.

The one hiker who didn't finish the trip with his friends repeatedly stated that he thought that his friends had fallen victim to being in the wrong place at the wrong time while the Russian army was testing some kind of weapon. I'd find it more likely that the infrasound was caused by a weapon's test than by tornadoes running repeatedly over the same area…(for the record, I absolutely don't think the hikers were killed by a yeti. I think they were killed by panic resulting from infrasound, just not sure it went down quite like Dead Mountain guy thinks it did.)
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PostTue Jun 10, 2014 4:50 am » by 99socks


Hi Blue!

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Anyhoot, I would like to remind people that flesh doesn't decompose at -25 degrees... :flop:
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PostTue Jun 10, 2014 5:01 am » by Cosmic Circle


They were more along the lines of dirt devils as in they didn't reach all the way up into the clouds, they rolled off the land after being splintered by the 2 crests on the sides of that mountain, it's been a while since I read it, but a lot of it has to do with the attitudes of the people as far as the paranoia towards the government. It took the author quite a while to gain the trust of the people he met with there as well.

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As far as decomposing, the river had thawed and she was face down in running water.

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PostTue Jun 10, 2014 7:52 am » by Opalserpent


The really hot chick that died had her tongue and one of her eyes removed.
That yeti is a sick bastard.
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PostTue Jun 10, 2014 11:21 pm » by Thebluecanary


Hey Sock!

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"An examination of the four bodies which were found in May changed the picture. Three of them had fatal injuries: the body of Thibeaux-Brignolles had major skull damage, and both Dubinina and Zolotarev had major chest fractures. According to Dr. Boris Vozrozhdenny, the force required to cause such damage would have been extremely high. He compared it to the force of a car crash. Notably, the bodies had no external wounds related to the bone fractures, as if they were crippled by a high level of pressure. Major external injuries were, however found on Dubinina, who was missing her tongue, eyes, and part of the lips, facial tissue and a fragment of skullbone;[5] she also had extensive skin maceration on the hands. It has been claimed that Dubinina was found lying face down in a small stream that ran under the snow and that her external injuries are in line with putrefaction in a wet environment and were unlikely to be related to her death, but photographs of her corpse clearly show her body was found kneeling against a large boulder, away from running water."

Wikipedia, so grain of salt. But their version jibes with others I've read, save for Dead Mountain guy.

Here she is after the bodies were moved from where they were found: Image
This is the photo I was thinking about. I misremembered it as being her original position. Still and all, the soft tissues of the face other than the eyes look pretty intact for being in the water. I always wondered if she tore them out herself…0_o
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PostTue Jun 10, 2014 11:49 pm » by Mydogma


Thebluecanary wrote:Hey Sock!

:banana:
"An examination of the four bodies which were found in May changed the picture. Three of them had fatal injuries: the body of Thibeaux-Brignolles had major skull damage, and both Dubinina and Zolotarev had major chest fractures. According to Dr. Boris Vozrozhdenny, the force required to cause such damage would have been extremely high. He compared it to the force of a car crash. Notably, the bodies had no external wounds related to the bone fractures, as if they were crippled by a high level of pressure. Major external injuries were, however found on Dubinina, who was missing her tongue, eyes, and part of the lips, facial tissue and a fragment of skullbone;[5] she also had extensive skin maceration on the hands. It has been claimed that Dubinina was found lying face down in a small stream that ran under the snow and that her external injuries are in line with putrefaction in a wet environment and were unlikely to be related to her death, but photographs of her corpse clearly show her body was found kneeling against a large boulder, away from running water."

Wikipedia, so grain of salt. But their version jibes with others I've read, save for Dead Mountain guy.

Here she is after the bodies were moved from where they were found: Image
This is the photo I was thinking about. I misremembered it as being her original position. Still and all, the soft tissues of the face other than the eyes look pretty intact for being in the water. I always wondered if she tore them out herself…0_o

:cheers: ya thats messed up crazy...its like they were taken aboard a aircraft and dysected like pigs and tossed out...whatever it is that happened it is for sure that they went thru an horriffic ending a horror movie couldnt surpass...
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