ERA OF GENIUS SCIENTISTS IS OVER

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PostSat Feb 02, 2013 2:20 pm » by -Marduk-


Expert psychologist suggests the era of genius scientists is over

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Dean Keith Simonton, a psychology professor at the University of California, has published a comment piece in the journal Nature, where he argues that it’s unlikely mankind will ever produce another Einstein, Newton, Darwin, etc. This is because, he says, we’ve already discovered all the most basic ideas that describe how the natural world works. Any new work, will involve little more than adding to our knowledge base.

Simonton’s comments are likely to draw a strong reaction, both in and out of the science world. It’s been the geniuses among us that have driven science forward for thousands of years, after all. If no more geniuses appear to offer an entirely new way of looking at things, how will the human race ever reach new heights?

Simonton has been studying geniuses and their contributions to science for more than 30 years and has even written books on them. He also writes that he hopes he is wrong in his assessment, even as he clearly doesn’t think he is. Sadly, the past several decades only offer proof. Since the time of Einstein, he says, no one has really come up with anything that would mark them as a giant in the field, to be looked up to hundreds, if not thousands of years from now. Worse perhaps, he details how the way modern science is conducted is only adding to the problem. Rather than fostering lone wolves pondering the universe in isolation, the new paradigm has researchers working together as teams, efficiently going about their way, marching towards incremental increases in knowledge. That doesn’t leave much room for true insight, which is of course, a necessary ingredient for genius level discoveries.

Simonton could be wrong of course – there might yet be some person that looks at all that has been discovered and compares it with his or her own observations, and finds that what we think we know, is completely wrong, and offers evidence of something truly groundbreaking as an alternative. The study of astrophysics, for example, appears ripe for a new approach. Scientists are becoming increasingly frustrated in trying to explain why the universe is not just expanding, but is doing so at an increasing rate. Perhaps most of the theories put forth over the past half-century or so, are completely off base. Modern science can’t even explain gravity, after all. Isn’t it possible that there is something at work that will need the intelligence, insight and courage of an Einstein to figure out? It appears we as a species are counting on it, even as we wonder if it’s even possible.




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PostSat Feb 02, 2013 3:15 pm » by Evildweeb


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I am afraid I have to agree.

The level of genius of da Vinci and Einstein is practically other-worldly.

There is still always the chance that a fluke genius could turn up beyond that of Hawking (who doesn't really count) though it appears the odds have fallen through the floor.

Also, Chinese kids that can do algorithms in their heads don't count either.

Though I may have failed miserably, I vainly tried to point out the disparity in genius in the two vids about invention of Einstein's decade and those of 2012. The disparity in the level of real genius is glaringly obvious.


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PostSat Feb 02, 2013 3:35 pm » by Slith


I think as long as there are visionaries, there will be geniuses. Question is, who is going to pave that road?
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PostSat Feb 02, 2013 3:41 pm » by Cosmine


GALVATRON wrote:Expert psychologist suggests the era of genius scientists is over

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Dean Keith Simonton, a psychology professor at the University of California, has published a comment piece in the journal Nature, where he argues that it’s unlikely mankind will ever produce another Einstein, Newton, Darwin, etc. This is because, he says, we’ve already discovered all the most basic ideas that describe how the natural world works. Any new work, will involve little more than adding to our knowledge base.

Simonton’s comments are likely to draw a strong reaction, both in and out of the science world. It’s been the geniuses among us that have driven science forward for thousands of years, after all. If no more geniuses appear to offer an entirely new way of looking at things, how will the human race ever reach new heights?

Simonton has been studying geniuses and their contributions to science for more than 30 years and has even written books on them. He also writes that he hopes he is wrong in his assessment, even as he clearly doesn’t think he is. Sadly, the past several decades only offer proof. Since the time of Einstein, he says, no one has really come up with anything that would mark them as a giant in the field, to be looked up to hundreds, if not thousands of years from now. Worse perhaps, he details how the way modern science is conducted is only adding to the problem. Rather than fostering lone wolves pondering the universe in isolation, the new paradigm has researchers working together as teams, efficiently going about their way, marching towards incremental increases in knowledge. That doesn’t leave much room for true insight, which is of course, a necessary ingredient for genius level discoveries.

Simonton could be wrong of course – there might yet be some person that looks at all that has been discovered and compares it with his or her own observations, and finds that what we think we know, is completely wrong, (Good mushrooms grow in the dark and are fed whit shit. :twisted: ) and offers evidence of something truly groundbreaking as an alternative. The study of astrophysics, for example, appears ripe for a new approach. Scientists are becoming increasingly frustrated in trying to explain why the universe is not just expanding, but is doing so at an increasing rate. Perhaps most of the theories put forth over the past half-century or so, are completely off base. Modern science can’t even explain gravity, after all. Isn’t it possible that there is something at work that will need the intelligence, insight and courage of an Einstein to figure out? It appears we as a species are counting on it, even as we wonder if it’s even possible.




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Geniuses (whit or whitout Ph D's.) still walks among us they just get ridiculed....

Until the fifties high school students were receiving a "clasical" education,Ancient history,maths,latin,greek,biology,ect...
The point was to give young minds a strong fondation if they want to enter university... :geek:

Today it's more about preparing young minds...to get a job... :robot:

In the fifties folks wanted to "make a living".
Now,too often they want to be rich and famous. ( :pray: :love: :obsessed: )


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PostSat Feb 02, 2013 5:09 pm » by Cognoscenti


Sadly, it seems that most of the best scientific minds are employed by the Military Industrial complex, as it is obvious that most technological advances are first put to military application.

If you, as many others, are beginning to subscribe to the theory of the Akashic field, that their exists at the most fundamental construction of the universe an informational field, contained within, or the construct of the so-called Zero point energy field, then the next genius advances will be to learn how to extract insight or inspiration from this field. Doing so may involve the scientific study of the effect of psychedelic substances on human consciousness. It is a well know scientific fact that Francis Crick had the vision of the structure of DNA while under the influence of LSD



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