Even the Maya are getting sick of 2012 hype

Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:08 pm » by **Cornbread714**

sawltydawg wrote:3.Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of the mods as we understood them.

It's that 3rd step I always have a problem with

Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:16 pm » by **sawltydawg**

cornbread714 wrote:
sawltydawg wrote:3.Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of the mods as we understood them.

It's that 3rd step I always have a problem with

mee too

that and step 4..the dreaded moral inventory( i actually completed the real twelve steps, and during step 4 i wrote 300 pages)....best form of self-actualizing therapy ever.......that and i also realized that i have a tendency to be a bit of a self-obssesed asshole...but enough about you lets talk about me :sunny:

Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:46 pm » by **Dmtshaman**

cornbread714 wrote:Native Americans consumed red meat, sugar, tobacco and caffeine. (too bad about the alcohol thing, though...)

DMTShaman, you are perhaps my favorite vid poster here, I hope I don't piss you off too much.

There is really nothing anyone can say to piss me off, for if it does then I would not be in control of who I am...Anger comes from the feeling of being disrespected...which you have not done, I expect most to dissagree and scoff at my beliefs...about 90% will not be apart of the great change, so I speak to the 10% that will get it...The difference between us and native americans of the past is our lack of spiritual knowledge...when they used red meat, sugar, tobacco and caffeine, they had a reverence and gave spirtual praise and thanks to the spirits within the meat and plants...modern man views these things as dead and use them as a form of speed...
There is so much to learn before a clear picture materializes before us...if a great shift does not happen then we will fall into a eternal nightmare that Jordan Maxwell and David Icke speak of...more pain more suffering more slavery more struggle...why would we embrace this? Saying you dont believe in something precludes you from ever believing its opposite...One can say "I dont believe in God" this does not mean there is no God...all it means is that you have no connection to God...like i said belief is not necessary for something to exist. Do you believe in electricity? Do you think your belief is needed for this to exist? You can say you dont believe all you want, but if you stick a fork into a socket youll get the shocking truth...
sawltydawg...Lets see mayan shamans could cure and heal there own, without modern medicine or television...they could predict the movement of the planets, cycles of the sun and moon and had a deep understanding of astrology and how the universe really works..they had the inside track on cycles and archetypal forces that govern the earth...they predicted their own demise...their great calendar coincides with great shifts in epochs to the match...big difference between a spirtual person deep in astral travel and multi dimensional existance to a couch potato deeply enrooted in ego and self loathing in Tennessee...

Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:59 pm » by **Towelie**

The Myans had an astounding civilisation but they were no where near as profound and mystical as that makes them out to be, there civilisation suffered tremendously from things that couldve easily been avoided, if they did infact know more about nature and how it works they wouldnt of had to abandon there cities over and over again, and wouldnt of suffered from malnutrition and various diseases.
They may be considered by some as more spiritual or in touch but this didnt help them get things right, even tales of how they predicted there own demise are based upon? what someone got from a calendar, the Myans predicted nothing they just made a very long calendar.

Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:02 pm » by **sawltydawg**

sawltydawg...Lets see mayan shamans could cure and heal there own, without modern medicine or television...they could predict the movement of the planets, cycles of the sun and moon and had a deep understanding of astrology and how the universe really works..they had the inside track on cycles and archetypal forces that govern the earth...they predicted their own demise...their great calendar coincides with great shifts in epochs to the match...big difference between a spirtual person deep in astral travel and multi dimensional existance to a couch potato deeply enrooted in ego and self loathing in Tennessee..

could cure and heal there own........bullshit

they could predict the movement of the planets, cycles of the sun and moon and had a deep understanding of astrology and how the universe really works........so could the Dogon, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Babylonians, Sumerians, Assyrians, Kabbalists, Cannanites, Incas, Aztecs, Inuit....big fuking deal almost every ancient culture could read the stars

and how the universe really works.....bullshit...they clearly lacked a working understanding of both quantum and particle physics and mechanics. they could record what they saw...they could not explain why or how

they predicted their own demise....bullshit...a vague inscription with questionable origin and dating is not a prediction of their own demise....another note...every culture has citizens who speak of the demise of their culture...us included...just because pindz says america will die does that means he has accurately predicted Americas demise...no

big difference between a spirtual person deep in astral travel and multi dimensional existance to a couch potato deeply enrooted in ego and self loathing in Tennessee..dude there are spiritual people everywhere...even in Tennessee...how do you know that the myans had multidimensional existences...and successfully astral traveled.... heresy and rhetoric....

if they were so advanced why are they virtually extinct...if they were so advanced why were they a blood/sacrifice culture..with backward views on equality, co-operation, love and compassion.

they were no more advanced than the romans or the Mongols.........i would say that they were far less advanced than the Mongols.....

Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:07 pm » by **Cornbread714**

dmtshaman wrote:There is so much to learn before a clear picture materializes before us...

Got that right. And don't worry, I won't be buying into any David Icke-sponsored "eternal nightmare" if the Great Shift doesn't occur.

That's why I don't have too many beliefs.

Beliefs, like goals, are limitations in my estimation...

Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:27 pm » by **sawltydawg**

myans were not gods, they were not enlightened, and they obviously didnt have the truth...they were mysterious, and better than most at observing the stars..... thats it

its like me saying i have the power of free energy just because i know how to plug in the battery charger...and my mom pays the electrical bill.

Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:32 pm » by **Drextin**

towelie wrote:The Myans had an astounding civilisation but they were no where near as profound and mystical as that makes them out to be, there civilisation suffered tremendously from things that couldve easily been avoided, if they did infact know more about nature and how it works they wouldnt of had to abandon there cities over and over again, and wouldnt of suffered from malnutrition and various diseases.
They may be considered by some as more spiritual or in touch but this didnt help them get things right, even tales of how they predicted there own demise are based upon? what someone got from a calendar, the Myans predicted nothing they just made a very long calendar.

and that about sums it all up right there. :flop:

Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:52 pm » by **Pindz**

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