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PostThu May 05, 2011 12:39 pm » by Harbin


Fight of the Century: Keynes vs. Hayek Round Two
Primary economic schools set in a hip hop style song.


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PostThu May 05, 2011 8:59 pm » by Harbin


Nobody cares how their lives are affected by monetary policy ?
Too bad.
We as humans will continue to be slaves if we can not take the time for even cursory understanding.
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PostSat May 07, 2011 12:53 am » by Rednerrus


a slave is as fortunate as his masters, don't be fooled by the gilded homes and fancy clothes for when they sleep they are the slaves, just as the slave dreams of the rich, both are equally enslaved.

austerity is the stairway to real.
"real growth" is not working, not doing, not surviving, not thriving, not desiring, not dreaming
and people are just dreams and desires

stable rules when man is built on the imaginary and meaningless, dreams and desires. Wake UP.
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PostSat May 07, 2011 3:50 am » by Hackjames


rednerrus wrote:a slave is as fortunate as his masters, don't be fooled by the gilded homes and fancy clothes for when they sleep they are the slaves, just as the slave dreams of the rich, both are equally enslaved.

austerity is the stairway to real.
"real growth" is not working, not doing, not surviving, not thriving, not desiring, not dreaming
and people are just dreams and desires

stable rules when man is built on the imaginary and meaningless, dreams and desires. Wake UP.


Was that a poem?

If not, the message I took away was "don't care about anything that people conventionally care about, for any reason, and that will be good for some reason". Care to correct any misinterpretations on my part?

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I totally care about monetary policy! YOU HAVE ASSUMED TOO MUCH! Good post.

I should add that I was surprised to find that I didn't cringe even once during this video, which I did not expect, given the "informational rap-based comedy" I've encountered previously.
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PostSun May 08, 2011 7:12 am » by Rednerrus


The first part is simple analogy of what the video is about, the slaves and the masters.
The rest is just commentary on the lyrics witch give "imaginary problems" and "suppose" "solutions", both of witch are just as a person is: full of flaws and inadequacy for there is no such "perfect person".

So yes, do not "care" for anything people care about, or their reasons, and the reason is real growth. When one intends to act it presents a reason, with the intent of a person the reasons are those of a separate singularity's desires/fears, the growth then will be that of the intent or the desire/fear that was acted on. Selfish desires are driven by the love for the self, but the self of a person is an infinitely small and separate, apart from god, or a mirror of god or what one calls the background of all, this Here and Now. When one acts in the here and now it excludes all thoughts and memories and whatever feeling and emotion that the body/mind is engulfed in, and just acts, without the singularity that imagines itself as the one acting, but the intentions being truly "selfless" and allowing for growth without being impeded by "desires" and "dreams", the growth is that of understanding, or the bliss people are look"ing" for, not pleasure. World peace or a state of constant extacy/pleasure are ideals that the person looks up to and acts for, yet they are not real but mere imaginary/dreams, acting on an ideal the person will never reach the goal, when the goal is within grasp the extacy or peace will succumb to its own perfection leading way to the background to rise again for that person, or the body, the mind, and its many perceived shortcomings. All "moments" are "momentary" and none bring real "satisfaction" for the energy is channeled to build up an ideal, not an understanding of reality where all moments arise from and where they all subside, the reality destroying and creating them in endless succession and this presence is where the foundations of man are, not in the ever changing "moment"/"feeling"/"thought", but in the Here and Now, this presence/awareness. Focusing on "monetary policy" one sees how people perpetuate their fears and desires, but when one is outside the ideals there is no "care" for such imaginary problems.

The slave will dream of being the master just as the master gets tortured in his nightmares by his "cares" for wealth, when awake his drive is for "ownership", his "health" and "property" needing constant maintaining and safeguarding, while the slave is perpetuating the master by giving him all "control" and desiring to be the master or to be "free". One is a slave to the property as one is a slave to a dream neither of witch can "grow" because both the "slave and owner" seek the growth of the imaginary, their "only" reality.

Here and Now, this background that is at the heart of everything, it includes all and nothing can include it. Without the here and now reality is as good as a dream/imagination, yet with it reality is solid and immovable, unchanging and relies on nothing to "create" it, it is all, yet in any concept it is absent but all concepts are only risings in this here and now. The here and now is not a creation such as a desire or fear, but it is a constant, the ONLY constant, so this needs no such "care" but a person seeking to sustain the moment/pleasure/desire is not aware of this here and now. Trough constant basking in its immovable and unchanging presence you "grow", but by "leaving" the here and now and putting energy towards "memories"/"predictions" or "mind" and the body and its sensory desires you do not "depart" one iota from Here and Now but the energy is used on growing not the awareness of what it is Here and Now but an imaginary desire, a moment, an unstable and ever changing base, and rules will be as grounded as the foundation you raise them on, currently one can see the constant contradictions in all doctrines that "separate" or "conceptualize" the reality and the rules that govern thought/time.space/society.individual/good.bad/ are just as unstable and hypocritical as the theorems/systems.
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